14:01:33 <ttx> #startmeeting releaseteam 14:01:33 <opendevmeet> Meeting started Fri Aug 22 14:01:33 2025 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:01:33 <opendevmeet> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:01:33 <opendevmeet> The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' 14:01:48 <ttx> Our agenda is down at: 14:02:03 <ttx> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/flamingo-relmgt-tracking#L296 14:02:15 <ttx> Ping list: release-team elod 14:03:36 <ttx> Anyone here for the release team meeting? 14:03:45 <elodilles> o/ 14:03:56 <ttx> Ah! 14:04:00 <elodilles> hi, sorry, i'm here :] 14:04:10 <ttx> Alright let's get started 14:04:12 <ttx> #topic Review task completion 14:04:31 <ttx> - Propose autoreleases for cycle-with-intermediary libraries (excluding client libraries) which had commits that have not been included in a release. (elod) 14:04:51 <ttx> #link https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:flamingo-final-non-client-libs 14:05:46 <elodilles> i went through the open patches (without response from team :'( 14:06:08 <elodilles> today morning, and reviewed them 14:06:13 <ttx> Hmm, do you think I should approve them today, or wait next week? 14:06:17 <elodilles> added procedural PTL-Approved+1 for them 14:06:28 <ttx> it is a bit of a Friday 14:06:34 <elodilles> ttx: both works for me 14:06:55 <elodilles> won't you be traveling next week? :-o 14:06:56 <ttx> OK I'll do a pass on them on Monday 14:07:19 <ttx> I'm traveling with a laptop 14:07:37 <ttx> - Send weekly email (ttx) 14:07:41 <ttx> will do in a minute 14:07:53 <frickler> late o/ 14:08:00 <ttx> #topic Assign R-5 week tasks 14:09:02 <ttx> ok all assigned I think 14:09:24 <ttx> #topic Review weekly countdown email 14:09:33 <ttx> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/relmgmt-weekly-emails 14:10:42 <frickler> lgtm 14:10:52 <ttx> alright will send shortly after meet 14:11:22 <ttx> #topic Open Discussion 14:11:37 <ttx> Wanted to discuss a bunch of old patches that sit in our review dashboard 14:12:30 <ttx> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/952525 14:13:07 <ttx> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/952528 and https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/952529 14:13:26 <ttx> Those three are old 2023.2-last patches 14:13:38 <elodilles> yepp 14:13:57 <elodilles> i think these should have been merged already ages ago :/ 14:14:08 <elodilles> https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:2023-2-last+is:open 14:14:34 <elodilles> but never got response from teams that they are OK with this 14:14:55 <elodilles> there's no deadline in the patches though 14:15:08 <ttx> OK how about we reply setting a deadline 14:15:18 <ttx> (and recheck the -1 one) 14:15:21 <elodilles> sounds OK to me 14:15:46 <ttx> I'll do that after meet 14:15:54 <ttx> unless someone beats me to it 14:16:11 <ttx> then: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/952201 14:16:15 <frickler> what would happen if we just abandon them? who would care? 14:16:31 <ttx> the 2023.2 ones? 14:16:42 <ttx> I think we need the tag in for some reason 14:16:57 <ttx> (to prep for branch removal ?_ 14:17:15 <ttx> The Mistral release one is missing PTL+1 14:17:20 <elodilles> frickler: as far as i understand those patches are needed (explained by gmaan in the past) 14:18:11 <frickler> for mistral can try to mail the ptl or ping amorin (not here but maybe in opendev or so) 14:18:27 <ttx> amorin approved them but has no ptl+1 right 14:18:40 <frickler> but he is in the same company afaict 14:18:47 <ttx> right 14:19:30 <ttx> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/941290 14:19:37 <frickler> oh, wait amorin will be PTL next cycle, too 14:19:51 <ttx> Still waiting on https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/941138 14:19:54 <frickler> so maybe we can just accept his +1 14:20:05 <ttx> yeah... I would do that and unblock them 14:20:07 <ttx> will add 14:20:13 <elodilles> +1 14:20:15 <ttx> then one of you can +2a 14:20:36 <frickler> for freezer need to remind noonedeadpunk of it 14:20:53 <frickler> (which is hereby done ;) 14:22:00 <frickler> (just for reference https://opendev.org/openstack/election/src/branch/master/candidates/2026.1/Mistral/arnaud.morin@gmail.com) 14:22:00 <ttx> thanks 14:22:11 <ttx> then we have a bunch of https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22caracal-stable%22+status:open patches stuck since mid-July 14:22:27 <elodilles> these are convenience patches ^^^ 14:22:42 <ttx> yeah I would drop them 14:22:43 <elodilles> to prepare for caracal to move Unmaintained 14:23:00 <elodilles> yes, probably we have waited enough 14:23:05 <elodilles> let me abandon them 14:23:17 <ttx> I'd rather have a clean deck before we enter final release period 14:23:27 <elodilles> for the recored, there are a couple that just got PTL-Approved+1 14:23:39 <elodilles> so those can be merged 14:24:01 <frickler> +1 to abandoning if no feedback 14:24:03 <ttx> only 2 left: 14:24:04 <ttx> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/943975 14:24:29 <ttx> been some time since we last heard of Kacper 14:24:56 <ttx> We can abandon it, he can un-abandon it if he wants to work on it again 14:25:18 <frickler> ack, hberaud also doesn't seem to be online 14:25:38 <frickler> iirc it was a colleague of his? 14:25:50 <ttx> yes 14:25:57 <ttx> that leaves https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/948790 14:26:00 <frickler> s/it was/they were/ 14:26:12 <ttx> for which nobody has a strong opinion, I guess 14:26:49 <elodilles> well, i have the opinion documented there and frickler too o:) 14:27:13 <frickler> ah, that one, yeah ... :-/ 14:27:27 <ttx> Hey don;t look at me, I voted 14:27:37 <elodilles> i don't think i will start the process right after the release, to be clear 14:28:23 <ttx> elodilles: we established that release-core people can vote on their patches, given that there is only 3 active of us 14:28:43 <frickler> let's make a compromise of two weeks instead of 4? ;) 14:29:09 <frickler> not sure how that would overlap with the ptg though 14:29:42 <elodilles> sorry, let me correct myself: i won't be start the transition process before 2025.2 Flamingo release <- this would be needed to be able to EOL at the time of release date 14:30:02 <elodilles> so i'll start the process right after the Flamingo release anyway 14:30:12 <elodilles> i just wanted to have the deadline more reasonable 14:30:50 <frickler> oh, and we have a 4 week waiting period, right? 14:31:41 <elodilles> frickler: well, 2-4 week, and usually teams realize at that time that they need a final release :S 14:32:13 <elodilles> i agree that we should be more strict with the deadline though 14:32:59 <ttx> elodilles: I think it makes sense 14:33:02 <frickler> ptg is 27-31. so maybe if the set the deadline to the friday before, 2025-10-24? 14:33:32 <elodilles> frickler: sounds a bit better than Flamingo date 14:34:30 <elodilles> let me update the patch 14:35:42 * ttx waits 14:36:03 <opendevreview> Elod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Update 2024.1 Caracal's transition date https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/948790 14:36:25 <elodilles> sorry, had to add signature to be able to edit :S 14:36:34 <elodilles> (old patch) 14:36:47 <elodilles> * signed-off-by 14:36:55 <frickler> commit message doesn't match completely any more, do you want to amend that, too? 14:36:56 <elodilles> but there it is ^^^ 14:37:19 <frickler> 3 instead of 4 weeks 14:37:29 <opendevreview> Elod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Update 2024.1 Caracal's transition date https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/948790 14:37:33 <elodilles> there ^^^ 14:38:09 <frickler> +2.5, thx 14:38:42 <elodilles> thanks too 14:39:08 <frickler> freezer p-c patch just got updated, too :) 14:40:25 <ttx> alright we have a winner 14:40:27 <ttx> That is all I had! 14:40:38 <ttx> anything else before we end the meeting? 14:41:38 <elodilles> just a reminder: these are also ready for a 2nd core review -> https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:caracal-stable+is:open 14:41:49 <elodilles> rest are abandoned 14:42:03 <elodilles> so the dashboard is a bit less messy now :) 14:42:09 <elodilles> thanks ttx o/ 14:42:16 <elodilles> nothing else from me 14:42:25 <ttx> yeah I thought I would not approve stable/* patches on a Friday 14:42:30 <fungi> speaking of travel, i'm on vacation all next week through wednesday the following week, so reach out in #opendev or #openstack-infra if you need something since i may be slow to respond directly until i get home 14:42:48 <ttx> thanks fungi! enjoy the time off 14:42:53 <fungi> will do my best 14:42:54 <ttx> #endmeeting