14:01:33 <ttx> #startmeeting releaseteam
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14:01:48 <ttx> Our agenda is down at:
14:02:03 <ttx> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/flamingo-relmgt-tracking#L296
14:02:15 <ttx> Ping list: release-team elod
14:03:36 <ttx> Anyone here for the release team meeting?
14:03:45 <elodilles> o/
14:03:56 <ttx> Ah!
14:04:00 <elodilles> hi, sorry, i'm here :]
14:04:10 <ttx> Alright let's get started
14:04:12 <ttx> #topic Review task completion
14:04:31 <ttx> - Propose autoreleases for cycle-with-intermediary libraries (excluding client libraries) which had commits that have not been included in a release. (elod)
14:04:51 <ttx> #link https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:flamingo-final-non-client-libs
14:05:46 <elodilles> i went through the open patches (without response from team :'(
14:06:08 <elodilles> today morning, and reviewed them
14:06:13 <ttx> Hmm, do you think I should approve them today, or wait next week?
14:06:17 <elodilles> added procedural PTL-Approved+1 for them
14:06:28 <ttx> it is a bit of a Friday
14:06:34 <elodilles> ttx: both works for me
14:06:55 <elodilles> won't you be traveling next week? :-o
14:06:56 <ttx> OK I'll do a pass on them on Monday
14:07:19 <ttx> I'm traveling with a laptop
14:07:37 <ttx> - Send weekly email (ttx)
14:07:41 <ttx> will do in a minute
14:07:53 <frickler> late o/
14:08:00 <ttx> #topic Assign R-5 week tasks
14:09:02 <ttx> ok all assigned I think
14:09:24 <ttx> #topic Review weekly countdown email
14:09:33 <ttx> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/relmgmt-weekly-emails
14:10:42 <frickler> lgtm
14:10:52 <ttx> alright will send shortly after meet
14:11:22 <ttx> #topic Open Discussion
14:11:37 <ttx> Wanted to discuss a bunch of old patches that sit in our review dashboard
14:12:30 <ttx> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/952525
14:13:07 <ttx> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/952528 and https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/952529
14:13:26 <ttx> Those three are old 2023.2-last patches
14:13:38 <elodilles> yepp
14:13:57 <elodilles> i think these should have been merged already ages ago :/
14:14:08 <elodilles> https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:2023-2-last+is:open
14:14:34 <elodilles> but never got response from teams that they are OK with this
14:14:55 <elodilles> there's no deadline in the patches though
14:15:08 <ttx> OK how about we reply setting a deadline
14:15:18 <ttx> (and recheck the -1 one)
14:15:21 <elodilles> sounds OK to me
14:15:46 <ttx> I'll do that after meet
14:15:54 <ttx> unless someone beats me to it
14:16:11 <ttx> then: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/952201
14:16:15 <frickler> what would happen if we just abandon them? who would care?
14:16:31 <ttx> the 2023.2 ones?
14:16:42 <ttx> I think we need the tag in for some reason
14:16:57 <ttx> (to prep for branch removal ?_
14:17:15 <ttx> The Mistral release one is missing PTL+1
14:17:20 <elodilles> frickler: as far as i understand those patches are needed (explained by gmaan in the past)
14:18:11 <frickler> for mistral can try to mail the ptl or ping amorin (not here but maybe in opendev or so)
14:18:27 <ttx> amorin approved them but has no ptl+1 right
14:18:40 <frickler> but he is in the same company afaict
14:18:47 <ttx> right
14:19:30 <ttx> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/941290
14:19:37 <frickler> oh, wait amorin will be PTL next cycle, too
14:19:51 <ttx> Still waiting on https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/941138
14:19:54 <frickler> so maybe we can just accept his +1
14:20:05 <ttx> yeah... I would do that and unblock them
14:20:07 <ttx> will add
14:20:13 <elodilles> +1
14:20:15 <ttx> then one of you can +2a
14:20:36 <frickler> for freezer need to remind noonedeadpunk of it
14:20:53 <frickler> (which is hereby done ;)
14:22:00 <frickler> (just for reference https://opendev.org/openstack/election/src/branch/master/candidates/2026.1/Mistral/arnaud.morin@gmail.com)
14:22:00 <ttx> thanks
14:22:11 <ttx> then we have a bunch of https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22caracal-stable%22+status:open patches stuck since mid-July
14:22:27 <elodilles> these are convenience patches ^^^
14:22:42 <ttx> yeah I would drop them
14:22:43 <elodilles> to prepare for caracal to move Unmaintained
14:23:00 <elodilles> yes, probably we have waited enough
14:23:05 <elodilles> let me abandon them
14:23:17 <ttx> I'd rather have a clean deck before we enter final release period
14:23:27 <elodilles> for the recored, there are a couple that just got PTL-Approved+1
14:23:39 <elodilles> so those can be merged
14:24:01 <frickler> +1 to abandoning if no feedback
14:24:03 <ttx> only 2 left:
14:24:04 <ttx> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/943975
14:24:29 <ttx> been some time since we last heard of Kacper
14:24:56 <ttx> We can abandon it, he can un-abandon it if he wants to work on it again
14:25:18 <frickler> ack, hberaud also doesn't seem to be online
14:25:38 <frickler> iirc it was a colleague of his?
14:25:50 <ttx> yes
14:25:57 <ttx> that leaves https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/948790
14:26:00 <frickler> s/it was/they were/
14:26:12 <ttx> for which nobody has a strong opinion, I guess
14:26:49 <elodilles> well, i have the opinion documented there and frickler too o:)
14:27:13 <frickler> ah, that one, yeah ... :-/
14:27:27 <ttx> Hey don;t look at me, I voted
14:27:37 <elodilles> i don't think i will start the process right after the release, to be clear
14:28:23 <ttx> elodilles: we established that release-core people can vote on their patches, given that there is only 3 active of us
14:28:43 <frickler> let's make a compromise of two weeks instead of 4? ;)
14:29:09 <frickler> not sure how that would overlap with the ptg though
14:29:42 <elodilles> sorry, let me correct myself: i won't be start the transition process before 2025.2 Flamingo release <- this would be needed to be able to EOL at the time of release date
14:30:02 <elodilles> so i'll start the process right after the Flamingo release anyway
14:30:12 <elodilles> i just wanted to have the deadline more reasonable
14:30:50 <frickler> oh, and we have a 4 week waiting period, right?
14:31:41 <elodilles> frickler: well, 2-4 week, and usually teams realize at that time that they need a final release :S
14:32:13 <elodilles> i agree that we should be more strict with the deadline though
14:32:59 <ttx> elodilles: I think it makes sense
14:33:02 <frickler> ptg is 27-31. so maybe if the set the deadline to the friday before, 2025-10-24?
14:33:32 <elodilles> frickler: sounds a bit better than Flamingo date
14:34:30 <elodilles> let me update the patch
14:35:42 * ttx waits
14:36:03 <opendevreview> Elod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Update 2024.1 Caracal's transition date  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/948790
14:36:25 <elodilles> sorry, had to add signature to be able to edit :S
14:36:34 <elodilles> (old patch)
14:36:47 <elodilles> * signed-off-by
14:36:55 <frickler> commit message doesn't match completely any more, do you want to amend that, too?
14:36:56 <elodilles> but there it is ^^^
14:37:19 <frickler> 3 instead of 4 weeks
14:37:29 <opendevreview> Elod Illes proposed openstack/releases master: Update 2024.1 Caracal's transition date  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/948790
14:37:33 <elodilles> there ^^^
14:38:09 <frickler> +2.5, thx
14:38:42 <elodilles> thanks too
14:39:08 <frickler> freezer p-c patch just got updated, too :)
14:40:25 <ttx> alright we have a winner
14:40:27 <ttx> That is all I had!
14:40:38 <ttx> anything else before we end the meeting?
14:41:38 <elodilles> just a reminder: these are also ready for a 2nd core review -> https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:caracal-stable+is:open
14:41:49 <elodilles> rest are abandoned
14:42:03 <elodilles> so the dashboard is a bit less messy now :)
14:42:09 <elodilles> thanks ttx o/
14:42:16 <elodilles> nothing else from me
14:42:25 <ttx> yeah I thought I would not approve stable/* patches on a Friday
14:42:30 <fungi> speaking of travel, i'm on vacation all next week through wednesday the following week, so reach out in #opendev or #openstack-infra if you need something since i may be slow to respond directly until i get home
14:42:48 <ttx> thanks fungi! enjoy the time off
14:42:53 <fungi> will do my best
14:42:54 <ttx> #endmeeting