12:00:22 #startmeeting requirements 12:00:23 Meeting started Wed Jun 15 12:00:22 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is coreycb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 12:00:24 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 12:00:27 The meeting name has been set to 'requirements' 12:00:34 hi everyone 12:00:39 o/ 12:00:44 #topic rollcall 12:00:45 o/ 12:02:39 ok I think we have prometheanfire, sigmavirus24 here as well 12:03:06 ya, I had to reconnect 12:03:13 freenode was fail 12:03:25 no problem. just doing roll call. 12:03:31 ok let's get started then 12:03:34 #topic Any controversies in the Queue? 12:03:44 o/ 12:03:49 any issues in the queue this week? 12:04:23 coreycb: not that I know of 12:04:24 no, queue has gone down too, which is nice 12:04:49 I would just ask that stable requirements cores let other stable cores know when a minimum versino bump is coming down the pike 12:05:09 It surprised some of us when a requirements sync bumped the min version of an oslo lib and we had to track down the originating review 12:05:16 Warnings are nice, but that's it 12:05:32 sigmavirus24: You mean with an email to os-dev or similar? 12:05:42 tonyb: yeah, even just with the [stable] tag 12:06:11 that seems like something that could be automated 12:06:16 Also, as a side note, minimum version bumps are not cool on stable branches, so I'd appreciate it if the few reviews that do that don't get comment-less +1s from team members 12:06:34 coreycb: right, I mean just as a head's up: "Read this to understand why your next sync is going to hvae a minimum version bump" 12:06:58 sigmavirus24: we can try to do that 12:07:24 sigmavirus24, good point, we can do that 12:07:28 tonyb: let me know if I can help with that 12:07:53 tonyb, would you take that as an action item? 12:08:43 coolsvap: Sure but it'll be a long time before we do a minimum bump like that 12:09:24 tonyb, I'll add an action for you then 12:09:32 thanks tonyb 12:09:33 tonyb, ack! we can revisit it later as well 12:09:59 #action: tonyb to ensure stable requirements cores let other stable cores know when a min version bump is coming down the pike (e.g email to os-dev or similar, with the [stable] tag) 12:10:08 just something which we can also discuss with wider audience when they are available :) 12:10:23 or they can get from meeting logs 12:10:54 coolsvap: to be clear, min version bumps should be a very rare occasion. In this case it was security related and absolutely necessary 12:11:30 Yeah we try very hard to not do that thing 12:11:51 ya, I've missed that I was reviewing for an older branch once and +1 one, but I try to watch for that 12:11:59 wish gertty called that out louder 12:12:03 * sigmavirus24 too 12:12:09 That's a side note 12:12:22 sigmavirus24, ack! 12:12:45 ok, thanks sigmavirus24 12:13:05 do we have any other points to discuss regarding the review queue this week? 12:14:41 the tqdm review? 12:14:53 harlowja_: should answer that prometheanfire 12:15:00 do we have a cutoff date for that? 12:15:05 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/325527/ 12:15:22 prometheanfire, we at kolla team didnt had this up for discussion 12:15:29 i will bring this up in meeting 12:15:36 coolsvap: thanks 12:16:21 coolsvap, is the discussion regarding wether or not kolla actually needs tqdm? 12:16:44 coreycb, the patch is up for review but it does not look stable atm with tqdm 12:17:05 coreycb, i can say yes 12:17:23 the discussion is regarding whether kolla needs tqdm 12:17:38 i will provide update on the review 12:17:43 coolsvap, ok. I'll give you an action if you don't mind to follow up on that. 12:17:50 coreycb, ack 12:18:11 i will mostly do it today itself 12:18:28 #action coolsvap to follow up on tqdm with kolla team and ensure it's needed or not 12:18:44 coolsvap: can you share the related kolla review? 12:19:16 * coolsvap is searching wait 12:19:54 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/325529/ 12:19:59 this is the kolla review 12:22:01 thanks coolsvap 12:22:15 added a note to the review requirements side 12:22:21 My gut feel is that kolla doesn't need to to be co-installable with OpenSTack services ... it's a deployment tool 12:22:36 sigmavirus24, np 12:22:52 so we probably can't justify adding it esp. if it isn't active in kolla 12:23:51 tonyb, kolla is following requirements and it is adheres with requirements policies and updates 12:24:16 tonyb, but in this particular review i think we can take a decision in couple of days 12:24:26 coolsvap: huh there you go ... 12:24:37 its in my queue for couple of weeks 12:24:45 but i couldn't attend last weeks meeting 12:24:52 I tend to agree with tonyb 12:25:05 But I'd like to let coolsvap resolve this on the kolla side first 12:26:17 thanks sigmavirus24 tonyb i will update the review as soon as I get the update mostly today after the meeting 12:26:32 coolsvap: Thanks. 12:27:23 ok I think we're ready to move on 12:27:45 last chance for requirements controversies 12:28:32 let's :) 12:28:43 #topic Tasks from Etherpad 12:28:50 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/requirements-tasks 12:29:17 alright, what's new with requirements tasks? 12:30:39 no update from me 12:31:01 Nothing from me, but I haven't been to a meeting in a few weeks 12:31:11 coolsvap, are you done with all of your reviews for dropping requirements? 12:31:13 3.13, should be completed by the uc sanity checker tox job I think 12:31:35 coreycb, mostly i didn't had time to check it this week 12:31:41 but more than 90% its done 12:31:54 prometheanfire, awesome, I'll add a note to the etherpad 12:32:02 coolsvap, cool 12:32:08 i will complete it before next meeting 12:32:57 coolsvap, sounds good 12:33:05 anything else? 12:35:21 ok let's move on 12:35:35 coolsvap, should we talk about requirements-cruft today? 12:37:31 ok. I think we're done, unless someone has anything? 12:37:43 thanks for all the discussion today everyone. 12:37:50 #topic Volunteer for next 2 meetings 12:38:17 I'm not sure we'll get 2 weeks worth ,but can someone volunteer to host next weeks meeting? 12:38:31 * tonyb o/ 12:38:44 tonyb, you win! 12:38:45 I can help too if tonyb is away 12:39:07 sigmavirus24, awesome thanks 12:39:08 okay so me in +7 sigmavirus24 in +14 :) 12:39:13 sure 12:39:22 excellent 12:39:25 #topic Open Discussion 12:39:41 does anyone have anything else? 12:39:52 coreycb, sorry was in different discussion, but no update related to requirement cruft 12:40:13 coolsvap, no problem 12:42:16 i have updated the meeting agenda for kolla for discussion related to tqdm 12:42:25 coolsvap, sounds good thanks 12:42:27 ok all, thanks for attending! 12:42:33 #endmeeting