12:00:54 <prometheanfire> #startmeeting requirements 12:00:55 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Sep 14 12:00:54 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is prometheanfire. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 12:00:56 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 12:00:59 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'requirements' 12:01:04 <prometheanfire> #topic rollcall 12:01:09 <coolsvap> o/ 12:02:08 <tonyb> o/ 12:02:10 <prometheanfire> a couple of minutes in case anyone else decides to join 12:04:52 <dirk> o/ 12:05:43 <prometheanfire> ok 12:05:49 <prometheanfire> #topic Any controversies in the Queue? 12:06:32 <prometheanfire> tonyb: I see you 'solved the keystone finds 12:07:05 <tonyb> prometheanfire: sloved is one word for it. 12:07:15 <prometheanfire> :D 12:07:38 <tonyb> the keysyoneauth (ksa) one is better in ocata, and then backported as needed 12:07:51 <tonyb> the keystonemiddleware (ksm) is just too late 12:07:58 <tonyb> we need to take it on the chin 12:08:03 <tonyb> same with oslo.log 12:08:25 <tonyb> it gives us strong motivation to fix lower bounds testsing 12:08:30 <dirk> yep 12:08:39 <prometheanfire> ya, both of those (oslo.log and keystonemiddleware)'s timeing sucked 12:08:51 <prometheanfire> anything else? 12:09:25 <dirk> next 12:09:41 <tonyb> not from me .. FFEs really are the queue this week :( 12:09:59 <prometheanfire> #topic Requirements freeze R-5 (Aug 29 - Sept 02) 12:10:06 <prometheanfire> #link https://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html 12:10:18 <prometheanfire> it's now the 14th 12:10:57 <tonyb> prometheanfire: sure, those dates don't cover the duration of the freeze only indicatede when it shoudl start 12:11:00 <prometheanfire> tonyb: do we have a date for branching? 12:11:06 <prometheanfire> I'm guessing rc1s? 12:11:18 <tonyb> prometheanfire: we have to be last so just after the rest are done 12:11:22 <prometheanfire> ya 12:11:31 <prometheanfire> was just wondering how much longer that was :P 12:11:37 <tonyb> probabaly early next week 12:12:02 <prometheanfire> k 12:12:33 <prometheanfire> k 12:12:37 <prometheanfire> moving on 12:12:41 <tonyb> we're starting to see RC1 requests come through ... 12:13:03 <prometheanfire> #topic Barcelona Design Summit 12:13:07 <prometheanfire> tonyb: updates? 12:13:29 <tonyb> We have one fishbowel session and a shared meetup with releases 12:13:45 <tonyb> now we need to set an agend for the fishbowl session 12:13:49 <prometheanfire> anyone other than tonyb going? 12:14:03 * coolsvap going 12:14:06 <tonyb> prometheanfire: yeah a few people are 12:14:10 <prometheanfire> good 12:14:11 <tonyb> coolsvap: is speaking 12:14:19 <tonyb> (about requirements) 12:14:28 <prometheanfire> even better 12:14:30 <prometheanfire> link? 12:14:42 <tonyb> prometheanfire: I don't have one 12:14:54 <tonyb> coolsvap: has mentioned it a couple of times 12:15:05 <prometheanfire> k 12:15:09 <tonyb> it'll be in the logs 12:15:10 <prometheanfire> anything else? 12:15:11 <coolsvap> https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/events/15330/openstack-requirements-what-we-are-doing-what-to-expect-and-whats-next 12:15:23 <prometheanfire> ah, right 12:15:34 <prometheanfire> #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/events/15330/openstack-requirements-what-we-are-doing-what-to-expect-and-whats-next 12:16:23 <prometheanfire> #topic Tasks from Etherpad 12:16:28 <prometheanfire> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/requirements-tasks 12:16:55 <prometheanfire> I finished projects that aren't getting updates 12:17:05 <prometheanfire> moved it to complete (7) 12:17:33 <tonyb> prometheanfire: \o/ 12:17:36 <dirk> prometheanfire++ 12:17:45 <coolsvap> prometheanfire: (y) 12:18:19 <prometheanfire> next? 12:18:39 <tonyb> prometheanfire: Yup 12:18:43 <prometheanfire> Open Discussion 12:18:47 <prometheanfire> #topic Open Discussion 12:19:28 <coolsvap> I saw some discussion/review related to lower bounds 12:19:55 <coolsvap> any updates related to it? 12:20:35 <prometheanfire> I know tony has his test review up 12:20:41 <prometheanfire> hackish hack that it is 12:20:43 <tonyb> coolsvap: I have a tool that generates a "modified" g-r that you can then use to build a constraints file 12:21:17 <tonyb> I found some really low hanging fruit that we can use to clean things up 12:21:42 <tonyb> The big challenge is actually testing it and make it possible for project teams to test it themselves 12:22:09 <tonyb> once we get it (lower-constraints.txt) it'll be pretty static (unles we find bugs) 12:22:32 <tonyb> It'll be a reasonable chunk of slow work for the ocata cycle 12:23:37 <prometheanfire> yarp 12:23:45 <prometheanfire> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1605629 was just reported btw 12:23:46 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1605629 in Ironic "AttributeError: 'Timer' object has no attribute '__code__' (requires pecan > 1.0.2)" [Low,Incomplete] 12:23:47 <tonyb> coolsvap: does that answer you questions? 12:23:50 <coolsvap> thanks tonyb for the update. I think I read on the review its targeted in Newton or something so just wanted to get updates 12:24:34 <prometheanfire> that's another gr bump requested 12:24:48 <tonyb> coolsvap: No targetted at Ocata not newton 12:25:16 <tonyb> Why is everyone testing lower bounds NOW? 12:25:52 <prometheanfire> I don't know :( 12:26:15 <tonyb> Well we'll have to make it better for Ocata+ 12:26:33 <prometheanfire> yes 12:26:42 <prometheanfire> should we talk about that one now? 12:26:47 <tonyb> we can't backport to stable/* as it'd violoate the policy :( 12:26:58 <tonyb> prometheanfire: the pecan bug? 12:27:43 <prometheanfire> ya 12:27:47 <prometheanfire> http://codesearch.openstack.org/?q=pecan&i=nope&files=requirements.txt&repos= nothing too bad 12:28:01 <prometheanfire> tonyb: can we backport the oslo.log one? 12:28:14 <prometheanfire> I thought that was a gr change as well 12:28:25 <prometheanfire> >=4.2.0 instead of 4.0.0 12:28:26 <tonyb> prometheanfire: No oslo.log once can't be backported 12:29:33 <prometheanfire> yep 12:30:40 <prometheanfire> guess now would be a good time to summarize a list of existing things that need backporting 12:30:54 <prometheanfire> tonyb: not sure if you maintian a list, just your starred? 12:32:17 <tonyb> prometheanfire: no starred was things that needed to be an FFE I'll worry abotu backports next week 12:32:25 <prometheanfire> k 12:32:41 <prometheanfire> well, I know it's early, but I'm out of topics :D 12:32:43 <tonyb> if it works for me to star them as a way to communicate them I can do that. 12:32:52 <tonyb> I dont' think there's that much stuff to backport 12:33:01 <prometheanfire> so unless anyone speaks up... 12:33:21 <prometheanfire> tonyb: I was thinking it'd be good if we had a way to syncronize across time zones is all 12:33:23 * tonyb would not object to an early night ;P 12:33:41 <prometheanfire> star after branching? 12:34:21 <tonyb> prometheanfire: If that works for y'all it's pretty easy for me and very queryablr for y'all 12:35:38 <prometheanfire> k 12:36:19 <prometheanfire> #endmeeting