10:00:14 <prometheanfire> #startmeeting requirements
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10:00:19 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'requirements'
10:00:24 <prometheanfire> #topic rollcall
10:01:52 <dirk> o/
10:02:28 <prometheanfire> dirk: might just be us
10:02:42 <dirk> probably, toabctl is still off
10:03:02 <dirk> we need more regular contributors :)
10:03:10 <prometheanfire> indeed
10:03:31 <prometheanfire> #topic agenda
10:03:43 <prometheanfire> #topic Any controversies in the Queue?
10:03:58 <prometheanfire> #link https://review.openstack.org/420579
10:04:04 <prometheanfire> that's the only one I have
10:04:12 <prometheanfire> it's beind discussed on the lists already
10:05:01 <prometheanfire> dirk: you have anything?
10:05:50 <dirk> other than monasca / kafka
10:05:56 <dirk> it would be good to take a look at the pending issues
10:06:07 <dirk> we have psutils, eventlet, and webob as major things to do right now
10:07:45 <prometheanfire> ya, I'd like to see what happens if we update the UC on psutils
10:08:07 <dirk> the question is whether we try that soonish
10:08:10 <prometheanfire> don't think we can get the other two before freeze.
10:08:10 <dirk> I would vote for that
10:08:11 <prometheanfire> ya
10:08:21 <dirk> but we have oslo.reports and one other component blocking this
10:08:28 <prometheanfire> ?
10:08:39 <dirk> oslo.reports has a requirements cap
10:08:46 <dirk> so we need a newer release that includes the uncapping
10:08:55 <dirk> and there was one tripleo component that had the same issue
10:09:09 <prometheanfire> are they not consuming gr?
10:09:23 <prometheanfire> I thought all of oslo would be at least
10:09:31 <dirk> they are, but they need to merge the openstack bot proposal update and then do a release, and we need to update to the new release
10:09:44 <prometheanfire> ugh
10:09:51 <dirk> and the tripleo-component is on follows-release, so the next release would be after the freeze
10:09:52 <prometheanfire> ya
10:10:43 <prometheanfire> well, we have to just poke them I guess
10:10:53 <prometheanfire> they probably want to do a release this week anyway
10:11:01 <prometheanfire> just make sure our stuff gets in
10:11:14 <prometheanfire> I'll try to find someone for that
10:11:39 <prometheanfire> any other ideas on that front?
10:14:03 <prometheanfire> ok, moving on
10:14:35 <dirk> the last topic is kombu 4
10:14:45 <dirk> there is some movement to release a kombu 4 compatible messaging
10:14:47 <prometheanfire> thanks, because the wiki is outdated
10:14:51 <prometheanfire> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Requirements
10:15:37 <prometheanfire> ok, so same problem there
10:15:39 <dirk> I'm in favor of doing that, but we seem to have questions on ordering
10:16:37 <prometheanfire> sure
10:16:41 <dirk> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410176/
10:16:45 <dirk> is the discussion of that
10:18:06 <prometheanfire> well, in the past it was top down
10:18:14 <dirk> ?
10:18:20 <prometheanfire> 'upstream' breaks, then downstreams fix
10:18:23 <prometheanfire> we are upstream
10:18:34 <prometheanfire> so we bump, they break, then fix
10:18:56 <prometheanfire> the best way is if there's some crossover
10:20:23 <prometheanfire> it seems like they don't want to do that work though
10:21:24 <prometheanfire> it doesn't seem like there patch is too complex, (to make work with both), but I don't know kombu or oslo.messaging
10:22:30 <prometheanfire> so, not sure that'll get in either
10:22:44 <prometheanfire> kinda seeming like ocata is newton.1
10:23:59 <prometheanfire> dirk: that seem right?
10:24:47 <dirk> prometheanfire: I'm fine with that approach of breaking when we have the core teams from oslo.messaging and the release prepared
10:25:03 <dirk> might be easy enough if we get all the attention needed on this this week
10:25:21 <prometheanfire> ok, just be sure to note in reviews and ping people then
10:27:37 <prometheanfire> moving on
10:27:39 <prometheanfire> I have nothing
10:27:53 <prometheanfire> open discussion?
10:29:57 <prometheanfire> #topi open discussion
10:30:01 <prometheanfire> #topic open discussion
10:32:11 <prometheanfire> #endmeeting