09:30:53 <prometheanfire> #startmeeting requirements 09:30:54 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Apr 5 09:30:53 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is prometheanfire. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 09:30:55 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 09:30:57 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'requirements' 09:31:08 <prometheanfire> !topic rollcall 09:31:09 <openstack> prometheanfire: Error: "topic" is not a valid command. 09:31:14 <prometheanfire> #topic rollcall 09:31:38 <prometheanfire> toabctl: tonyb dirk dims ? 09:32:19 <dirk> o/ 09:32:24 <toabctl> hi 09:34:31 <prometheanfire> k 09:34:41 <prometheanfire> #topic controversies in the queue? 09:34:58 <dirk> eventlet I guess 09:35:17 <prometheanfire> I know there's eventlet thing 09:35:18 <prometheanfire> ya 09:35:35 <dirk> the discussion on the mailing list was inconclusive to me 09:35:46 <prometheanfire> have a link? it's not showing up in gertty (unless it was abandoned) 09:35:48 <dirk> so I'm surprised to see dims proposing to not do the eventlet revert and instead drop designate 09:36:00 <dirk> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448104/ 09:36:01 <dirk> and 09:36:02 <prometheanfire> ya, saw that on the list too 09:36:13 <dirk> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453279/ 09:36:28 <dirk> I think what we should do is revert eventlet, extend test coverage to cover designate 09:36:37 <dirk> and then try to work together with them on getting that fixed 09:36:58 <dirk> the other thing that happened with e.g. networking-odl is that they merged a local overwrite to the global upper-constraints 09:37:09 <dirk> so they are running their tests against a different upper-constraints file than "ours" 09:37:11 <prometheanfire> I'd rather just fix designate, but not sure how hard that'd be 09:37:12 <dirk> which is bad as well 09:37:38 <dirk> it probably isn't that hard 09:37:40 <prometheanfire> has anyone talked to them about it? 09:37:57 <dirk> I didn't 09:38:15 <prometheanfire> nor I 09:38:21 <dirk> so we have a number of options 09:38:26 <dirk> a) just fix the thing 09:38:32 <dirk> b) give them a local overwrite 09:38:43 <dirk> c) globally revert and work with them on re-bumping it 09:38:49 <dirk> d) dropping them from g-r sync 09:38:55 <prometheanfire> with eventlet? 09:39:22 <dirk> I think a and c are good options, b and d less so 09:41:27 <prometheanfire> agreed 09:42:24 <prometheanfire> a if we can, c if we work with them and it's a bigger / longer issue, d if they are dead (upstream wise), don't think I like b at all 09:42:31 <prometheanfire> in that order that's what I'd like 09:44:45 <prometheanfire> anyway, I'll keep an eye on it as I can, but am on vacation for a week. 09:44:48 <prometheanfire> so... 09:44:59 <dirk> the action item is to discuss this with dims 09:45:08 <dirk> he seems to have a different opinion and we need to understand his reasoning 09:45:14 <prometheanfire> ya, when we can 09:51:50 <prometheanfire> anything else in the mean time? 09:52:18 <prometheanfire> want to wait til this would normally start to give people a chance to show 10:00:30 <prometheanfire> looks like dims got back to us in the other channel :D 10:01:03 <dims> prometheanfire : haven't woken up fully yet. back in a bit 10:01:12 <prometheanfire> dims: how long is a bit? :P 10:02:44 <dirk> prometheanfire: meeting time is the other favorite topic 10:02:57 <dirk> I also have the topic of upgrading the nova-func test job to voting 10:03:44 <prometheanfire> well, let's do the nova-func first 10:04:38 <prometheanfire> I've notice you mention it a couple of times :P 10:06:56 <prometheanfire> ? 10:07:38 <dirk> basically, short summary: we discussed it in atlanta to extend the list of check jobs for upper constraints changes also by running the projects functional tests 10:07:47 <dirk> the guinea pig for that was nova and it seems to work, but it is currently non-voting 10:07:54 <dirk> which in the end led to things being merged that broke it 10:08:02 <dirk> so I would like to propagate it to voting 10:08:05 <dirk> any objections? 10:08:18 <dirk> I'd also think about adding further func test jobs then, as a 2nd step 10:08:34 <prometheanfire> I'm good with making it voting 10:09:29 <prometheanfire> if it's regularly passing and adds value to our testing and is not an external job, make it vote :D 10:10:23 <prometheanfire> and the meeting time? 10:10:31 <prometheanfire> I'm fine with an hour earlier 10:16:59 <dirk> +1 10:17:12 <dirk> it seems that would be incompatible with dims 10:17:18 <dirk> and he's a frequent contributor recently 10:17:25 <dirk> dims: your input appreciated now :) 10:18:10 <dims> +1 to make it voting 10:19:59 <prometheanfire> dims: and the meeting time? is an hour ago too early? 10:22:53 <prometheanfire> also, is upstream desigante really dead? 10:23:09 <prometheanfire> or dead enough to be removed? 10:23:44 <prometheanfire> if so, a post to the list about it should probably be made, before removal 10:26:11 <prometheanfire> going to close this in a min if no response, we can discuss this stuff later, I'm dead tired 10:26:37 <dims> prometheanfire : it's 6:30 AM for me right now :) 10:26:47 <dims> prometheanfire : yes it is 10:27:17 <prometheanfire> it's 5:30 for me 10:27:24 <dims> prometheanfire : did you see monty and me posting to ML about designate? 10:27:26 <prometheanfire> and I've been up since yesterday :P 10:27:32 <dims> LOL 10:27:36 <dims> go get some sleep :) 10:27:47 <dims> i need to wake up kids for school 10:28:15 <prometheanfire> oh, guess they are tagged in that thread 10:29:22 <dirk> prometheanfire: ok, lets end the meeting 10:29:30 <dirk> and have some sleep 10:29:57 <prometheanfire> #endmeeting