12:01:25 <tonyb> #startmeeting requirements
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12:01:29 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'requirements'
12:01:32 <tonyb> #topic Roll-call
12:01:36 <coolsvap> o/
12:01:37 <tonyb> prometheanfire, number80, dirk, coolsvap, toabctl, smcginnis: ping
12:01:46 <tonyb> coolsvap: you're quick!
12:01:48 <dirk> o/
12:02:19 <coolsvap> tonyb: I was here only
12:02:34 <coolsvap> waiting for meeting to start
12:02:49 <tonyb> coolsvap: :)  I was 85seconds late starting ... bad tonyb
12:03:39 <coolsvap> hehe nothing like that
12:03:53 <tonyb> coolsvap: :)
12:03:56 <tonyb> I'm going to mix up the order a little today
12:04:01 <tonyb> #topic Freeze status
12:04:16 <tonyb> Glance
12:04:23 <tonyb> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/glance_store+branch:stable/pike+topic:backports
12:04:35 <tonyb> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/requirements+is:open+starredby:tonyb
12:05:03 <tonyb> And that's all held up on a nova change
12:05:24 <tonyb> #link https://review.openstack.org/489078
12:05:45 <tonyb> So we need to decide pretty quick if we're still happy with that FFE
12:05:48 <tonyb> thoughts?
12:06:11 <tonyb> It's lots of stuff to land in a short window while we're trying to stabalise things
12:06:14 <dirk> I'm pro the FFE but I don't have enough background
12:06:22 <dirk> so I didn't comment on it
12:06:33 <tonyb> ttx signed off on the FFE so it isn't a surprise to the release team
12:06:35 <dirk> in general many of the g-r lower bounds might not be correct
12:06:57 <tonyb> dirk: Agreed lower bounds is still a mess
12:07:11 <dirk> at least I didn't do a systematic check if any req was touched since ocata
12:07:55 <tonyb> dirk: You mean script something like if the specification for $library is the same in ocata and master warn?
12:08:02 <dirk> yeap
12:08:10 <tonyb> dirk: okay that'd be wasy to do
12:08:40 <tonyb> if I get time I'll knock something up
12:09:08 <tonyb> It wouldn't even use that much data everythign will be right there in the git repo
12:10:08 <tonyb> I think we're doing okay for FFEs we haven't has too many and only 3 real ones IIRC
12:11:12 <tonyb> I guess there's a potential FFE coming for python-barbicanclient 4.5.2
12:11:31 <coolsvap> yes
12:11:37 <tonyb> We need dave-mcgowan to reply to my question on os-dev
12:12:32 <tonyb> I think that about covers the freeze
12:12:56 <tonyb> the thaw ... well that's another matter ;P
12:14:09 <tonyb> I'll talk to ttx and dhellmann about thier thoughts on how long we're fozen for to accomodate the cycle-trainling projects
12:14:40 <tonyb> I feel like we need to be frozen until everything else is branched but that's a long time
12:14:43 <tonyb> thoughts?
12:16:37 <coolsvap> I think we can work with time
12:16:50 <tonyb> okay
12:16:54 <tonyb> #topic Any controversies in the Queue?
12:17:10 * coolsvap would like to understand what others also feel about it
12:17:24 <tonyb> Well the queue is basically blocked but is there anything in there that we shoudl think about befoer the thaw?
12:18:28 <coolsvap> nope
12:18:47 <tonyb> cool
12:18:52 <tonyb> #topic Election
12:19:09 <tonyb> So as I said I'm not standing for PTL
12:19:27 <tonyb> so y'all need to think about how you want to handle that.
12:20:01 <tonyb> #topic Open Discussion
12:20:33 <tonyb> anything?  Or should we get to breakfast/lunch/dinner/bed as appropriate?
12:20:52 <tonyb> man we really do cover the world with this meeting ;p
12:21:19 <coolsvap> hmm we can continue with our stuff I guess
12:21:38 <coolsvap> this timing is good
12:21:59 <tonyb> okay
12:22:03 <tonyb> Thanks everyone
12:22:08 <tonyb> #endmeeting