20:42:49 <prometheanfire> #startmeeting requirements
20:42:50 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Apr  3 20:42:49 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is prometheanfire. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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20:42:53 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'requirements'
20:43:02 <prometheanfire> #topic rollcall
20:43:05 <prometheanfire> tonyb, prometheanfire, number80, dirk, coolsvap, toabctl, smcginnis, dhellmann ping
20:43:07 <tonyb> o/
20:43:08 <prometheanfire> o/
20:44:26 <smcginnis> o/
20:45:58 <prometheanfire> ok
20:46:07 <prometheanfire> #topic Any controversies in the Queue?
20:46:26 <smcginnis> Not that I'm aware of.
20:46:27 <tonyb> I don't think so
20:46:39 <tonyb> we still have the dangling requests stuff on stable
20:47:21 <prometheanfire> yep
20:47:55 <prometheanfire> maybe I should just abandon those, I don't think those are really mergable
20:48:09 <tonyb> I think leaving them there is fin
20:48:22 <smcginnis> prometheanfire: IIRC, you approved rocky but had stated there it wouldn't be backported further?
20:48:22 <tonyb> I do want to go back and look at the actual imapact
20:48:30 <prometheanfire> smcginnis: yep
20:48:45 <prometheanfire> tonyb: ok, I'll leave them there for another week for you
20:49:20 <tonyb> Yup that's my position too but I aslo want to look at them and get a real risk assessment rather than my initial FUD/policy based one
20:49:25 <tonyb> prometheanfire: thanks
20:49:35 <prometheanfire> fair enough
20:49:37 <prometheanfire> anything else?
20:49:58 <prometheanfire> I'll abandon https://review.openstack.org/648457 at least
20:50:01 <tonyb> just smcginnis's https://review.openstack.org/#/c/649669/ ;P
20:50:09 <prometheanfire> lol
20:50:16 <tonyb> Yup drop it
20:50:30 <tonyb> it's wrong and encourages poor behaviour
20:50:49 <tonyb> when you abandon it can you put in a plug the the requirements-libs session at the forum?
20:51:12 <prometheanfire> tonyb: yep, that's the plan
20:51:25 <prometheanfire> #topic conf/ptg
20:51:36 <tonyb> https://www.openstack.org/summit/denver-2019/summit-schedule/events/23626/consumption-models-for-service-projects
20:52:01 <prometheanfire> oh, nice
20:52:17 <prometheanfire> on monday though :( will miss it
20:52:20 <tonyb> it even has a nice 'adult' names :)
20:52:26 <tonyb> prometheanfire: yeah
20:53:26 <prometheanfire> you know if it's recorded?
20:53:39 <tonyb> That wont be
20:53:44 <tonyb> it's a forum session
20:53:44 <prometheanfire> ah, ok
20:53:56 <prometheanfire> I should be able to be in irc at that time
20:54:02 <tonyb> okay
20:54:18 <prometheanfire> any other forum news?
20:54:29 <tonyb> I can try to hangouts you but I dont think that'll work super well
20:54:34 <tonyb> willing to try though
20:55:07 <tonyb> or if opendev infra has a better tool than hangouts I'm all ears
20:55:37 <tonyb> I also have project update
20:55:43 * tonyb will send the slides around
20:55:47 <tonyb> it'll be pretty light
20:55:48 <prometheanfire> ya, no need for video though
20:55:50 <prometheanfire> kk
20:57:01 <prometheanfire> #topic open floor
20:57:49 <smcginnis> So looks like that jsonschema one I will need to update each project first, then uncap?
20:58:13 <smcginnis> Which will be a little odd since they won't actually test with the newer version until u-c is raised.
20:58:25 <tonyb> smcginnis: Yeah that seems strange
20:58:32 <tonyb> smcginnis: I'll look at the failure today
20:58:40 <smcginnis> Cool, thanks tonyb.
20:58:45 <prometheanfire> smcginnis: we can test with dependant patches
20:58:50 <smcginnis> Would be nice to get some deprecation warnings out of everyone's logs.
20:59:03 <tonyb> smcginnis: Yeah
20:59:04 <prometheanfire> but ya, it's a large set
20:59:32 <smcginnis> Nothing else from me today.
20:59:44 <tonyb> me either
20:59:53 <smcginnis> prometheanfire: Oh, kind of tangential, but did you want to update that release patch with a newer commit?
21:00:06 <prometheanfire> smcginnis: the bot?
21:00:06 <tonyb> or abandon it
21:00:27 <prometheanfire> smcginnis: ok, release for reqs
21:00:31 <tonyb> prometheanfire: no the requirement rc1 release from diablo_rojo
21:01:10 <smcginnis> Yeah, that.
21:01:12 <prometheanfire> eh, meh
21:01:18 <smcginnis> https://review.openstack.org/648279
21:01:31 <prometheanfire> I don't see the need for another release
21:01:41 <prometheanfire> releases are more for code changes, not reqs/constraints
21:02:11 <tonyb> Yeah I agree so just abandon it
21:02:27 <smcginnis> Done
21:02:33 <tonyb> smcginnis: shoudld we document an exclusion for requirements?
21:03:01 <smcginnis> Maybe good to add that to process.rst so it's explicit that requirements PTL will take care of those as needed.
21:03:10 <smcginnis> Or get that all scripted right so it's baked in.
21:03:15 <tonyb> smcginnis: cool
21:03:33 <prometheanfire> cool
21:03:35 <prometheanfire> thanks
21:03:37 <prometheanfire> anything else?
21:03:43 <smcginnis> nope
21:03:43 <tonyb> add a flag: no_procedural_releases ;P
21:03:50 <smcginnis> tonyb: Heh, maybe
21:03:59 <prometheanfire> #endmeeting