13:30:12 <jpena> #startmeeting rpm_packaging
13:30:13 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Apr  2 13:30:12 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jpena. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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13:30:16 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'rpm_packaging'
13:30:17 <jpena> ping toabctl, dirk, apevec, jpena, number80, kaslcrof, cmurphy, rha
13:30:19 <jpena> #topic roll call
13:30:29 <cmurphy> o/
13:30:29 <jpena> Remember to add any last minute topic to the agenda at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-rpm-packaging
13:31:18 <jpena> #chair cmurphy
13:31:18 <openstack> Current chairs: cmurphy jpena
13:33:31 <rha> Hi
13:33:39 <jpena> #chair rha
13:33:40 <openstack> Current chairs: cmurphy jpena rha
13:36:16 <jpena> let's start with the agenda
13:36:28 <jpena> #topic PTL for the Victoria cycle
13:36:48 <jpena> the nomination period has ended, but nobody has volunteered :-/
13:37:13 <cmurphy> the TC has been tossing around the idea of allowing projects to be PTL-less https://review.opendev.org/712696
13:37:20 <cmurphy> i think this team could function that way
13:37:23 <jpena> oh, interesting
13:38:10 <jpena> that might work for us, true. cmurphy, do you think this proposal can be approved at the end?
13:39:07 <cmurphy> not sure, there are a lot of other projects who had no nominee so I think they may push it forward
13:39:38 <cmurphy> evrardjp: can you discuss with us what our options are since we don't have a PTL candidate?
13:41:12 <cmurphy> in any case I expect they'll reach out to us at some point
13:41:17 <rpittau> o/ meetings overlap
13:41:27 <jpena> alright, let's wait for the decision then
13:41:32 <jpena> #chair rpittau
13:41:32 <openstack> Current chairs: cmurphy jpena rha rpittau
13:41:53 <jpena> #info we'll wait for the TC decision around the PTL
13:42:53 <evrardjp> sorry, I am late on that ping.
13:43:17 <njohnston> o/
13:43:34 <evrardjp> We are thinking of different solutions
13:43:42 <evrardjp> 1) Appointing a ptl, like we usually do
13:43:56 <evrardjp> so I wanted to know if there is someone interested first :)
13:44:16 <evrardjp> 2) Turn into a sig, which is technically possible for packaging-rpm
13:44:48 <evrardjp> 3) The TC is also looking at moving some projects outside the centralized governance and release, which might help you
13:45:03 <evrardjp> 4) Experiment
13:45:22 <evrardjp> (with the ptl-less project teams and liaisons)
13:46:16 <evrardjp> you can find more information for all the projects in the same spot as yours, and the opinion of tc members in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/victoria-leaderless
13:48:08 <cmurphy> looks like people are thinking this should be removed from governance
13:48:17 <cmurphy> would be nice to discuss with dirk and toabctl around
13:51:55 <jpena> yes, agreed
13:52:05 <evrardjp> I agree.
13:53:00 <evrardjp> I don't want to take the "move out of OpenStack" if there are still people volunteering, and taking care of the project.
13:53:12 <evrardjp> take the x option*
13:54:26 <cmurphy> i think turning into a sig would work okay too
13:58:53 <jpena> anything else for this topic, or shall we move on?
13:59:08 <cmurphy> i don't have anything else
13:59:16 <jpena> #topic open floor
13:59:45 <jpena> if there's no other topic to discuss, we can close early
14:00:10 <rha> neither do I. (Sorry, was distracted)
14:04:33 <jpena> let's end, then
14:04:35 <jpena> #endmeeting