13:30:12 #startmeeting rpm_packaging 13:30:13 Meeting started Thu Apr 2 13:30:12 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jpena. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:30:14 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 13:30:16 The meeting name has been set to 'rpm_packaging' 13:30:17 ping toabctl, dirk, apevec, jpena, number80, kaslcrof, cmurphy, rha 13:30:19 #topic roll call 13:30:29 o/ 13:30:29 Remember to add any last minute topic to the agenda at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-rpm-packaging 13:31:18 #chair cmurphy 13:31:18 Current chairs: cmurphy jpena 13:33:31 Hi 13:33:39 #chair rha 13:33:40 Current chairs: cmurphy jpena rha 13:36:16 let's start with the agenda 13:36:28 #topic PTL for the Victoria cycle 13:36:48 the nomination period has ended, but nobody has volunteered :-/ 13:37:13 the TC has been tossing around the idea of allowing projects to be PTL-less https://review.opendev.org/712696 13:37:20 i think this team could function that way 13:37:23 oh, interesting 13:38:10 that might work for us, true. cmurphy, do you think this proposal can be approved at the end? 13:39:07 not sure, there are a lot of other projects who had no nominee so I think they may push it forward 13:39:38 evrardjp: can you discuss with us what our options are since we don't have a PTL candidate? 13:41:12 in any case I expect they'll reach out to us at some point 13:41:17 o/ meetings overlap 13:41:27 alright, let's wait for the decision then 13:41:32 #chair rpittau 13:41:32 Current chairs: cmurphy jpena rha rpittau 13:41:53 #info we'll wait for the TC decision around the PTL 13:42:53 sorry, I am late on that ping. 13:43:17 o/ 13:43:34 We are thinking of different solutions 13:43:42 1) Appointing a ptl, like we usually do 13:43:56 so I wanted to know if there is someone interested first :) 13:44:16 2) Turn into a sig, which is technically possible for packaging-rpm 13:44:48 3) The TC is also looking at moving some projects outside the centralized governance and release, which might help you 13:45:03 4) Experiment 13:45:22 (with the ptl-less project teams and liaisons) 13:46:16 you can find more information for all the projects in the same spot as yours, and the opinion of tc members in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/victoria-leaderless 13:48:08 looks like people are thinking this should be removed from governance 13:48:17 would be nice to discuss with dirk and toabctl around 13:51:55 yes, agreed 13:52:05 I agree. 13:53:00 I don't want to take the "move out of OpenStack" if there are still people volunteering, and taking care of the project. 13:53:12 take the x option* 13:54:26 i think turning into a sig would work okay too 13:58:53 anything else for this topic, or shall we move on? 13:59:08 i don't have anything else 13:59:16 #topic open floor 13:59:45 if there's no other topic to discuss, we can close early 14:00:10 neither do I. (Sorry, was distracted) 14:04:33 let's end, then 14:04:35 #endmeeting