18:02:10 <SergeyLukjanov> #startmeeting sahara
18:02:11 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Jun  5 18:02:10 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is SergeyLukjanov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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18:02:14 <skostiuchenko> hi
18:02:15 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'sahara'
18:02:23 <tosky> better :)
18:02:31 <SergeyLukjanov> it's the first time I'm misspelled the meeting name ;)
18:02:37 <SergeyLukjanov> hey folks
18:02:45 <tmckay> wow, I don't know if I can do two meetings in a row
18:02:54 <SergeyLukjanov> #link http://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SaharaAgenda
18:03:08 <SergeyLukjanov> tmckay, oh, man...
18:03:30 <SergeyLukjanov> traditionally, the first item is
18:03:32 <SergeyLukjanov> #topic News / updates
18:03:36 <SergeyLukjanov> folks, please
18:04:11 <SergeyLukjanov> #info all patches for 2014.1.1 approved, but due to the gate issue isn't yet merged, so, release will be right after the changes merged
18:04:29 <tmckay> I started an investigation and discussion of spark EDP.  I'll post a link to the pad ...
18:04:34 <elmiko> i've been finishing up the disconnected hdp plugin patch, and investigating possible solutions to the Swift authentication issue.
18:04:45 <tmckay> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara_spark_edp
18:05:12 <SergeyLukjanov> tmckay, thx
18:05:40 <tmckay> also, we found the "Fedora cluster won't start sometimes" and it has been fixed since the last meeting, I think
18:05:45 <SergeyLukjanov> tmckay is it already public?
18:05:46 <tmckay> that's good, that was troubling
18:06:07 <SergeyLukjanov> tmckay, I mean edp-spark
18:06:15 <tmckay> SergeyLukjanov, oh, I think so.
18:06:21 <tmckay> Should it not be?
18:06:37 <SergeyLukjanov> tmckay, oh, yeah, I see you email
18:06:39 <alazarev> I was busy with bug fixing, 10 CRs on review now
18:06:53 <SergeyLukjanov> I've just entered home, so, tons of unread emails
18:07:14 * tmckay nods
18:07:33 <SergeyLukjanov> #info the juno-1 is next week
18:07:39 <SergeyLukjanov> winter is coming :)
18:07:53 <alazarev> SergeyLukjanov: winder?
18:07:57 <NikitaKonovalov> look that changes with sahara-dashboard are not getting reviewed
18:07:57 <tmckay> oh, by the way, mattf sends his regrets, he is at Hadoop summit
18:07:59 <alazarev> SergeyLukjanov: winter?
18:08:41 <SergeyLukjanov> alazarev, it's from the game of throns
18:08:50 <SergeyLukjanov> tmckay, ok, thx for tip
18:08:54 <SergeyLukjanov> #topic Action items from the last meeting
18:09:06 <SergeyLukjanov> #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2014/sahara.2014-05-29-18.01.html
18:09:23 <SergeyLukjanov> bah, there are 6 action items
18:09:36 <elmiko> NikitaKonovalov: ack, i need to recheck the ones i've been watching
18:09:40 <SergeyLukjanov> #info aignatov is on vacations for this week, so, skeeping
18:10:01 <SergeyLukjanov> #action aignatov create bp re moving/updating rest samples docs and do it
18:10:13 <tmckay> I did the EDP wrapup, I don't think there were additional comments.  More a restatement of areas to investigate
18:10:13 <SergeyLukjanov> #info DONE: aignatov and tmckay will do a wrapup via the EDP design session from Summit via openstack-dev
18:10:29 <SergeyLukjanov> tmckay, thx, it looks very clear
18:10:49 <tmckay> also, I started notes on moving edp samples but I didn't create a new bp, waiting for the spec stuff
18:10:54 <SergeyLukjanov> #info DONE: SergeyLukjanov contact http://www.openstack.org/software/roadmap/ maintainers to update sahara-related things
18:11:02 <tmckay> Should I create it anyway?
18:11:25 <alazarev> tmckay: specs are addition to bps, not replacement
18:11:37 <SergeyLukjanov> tmckay, yup, we could expereiment with spec post-factum
18:11:50 <alazarev> *my understanding
18:11:55 <tmckay> alazarev, okay, thanks, I'll create it then.  So, "in progress" :)
18:12:02 <elmiko> SergeyLukjanov: if i come up with some solid ideas for the Swift authentication issue should i start a bp to get the design going or is it better to have the discussion on the private bug report?
18:12:17 <tmckay> elmiko, how about a pad?
18:12:24 <elmiko> tmckay: that works too
18:12:27 <tmckay> bp is hard to have a discussion through
18:12:34 <elmiko> well, i meant the new  bp format
18:12:38 <SergeyLukjanov> elmiko, let's create a semi-private etherpad linked to the bug
18:12:55 <SergeyLukjanov> #action SergeyLukjanov to create bp with steps to enable heat be default
18:13:03 * SergeyLukjanov waiting for specs
18:13:04 <elmiko> SergeyLukjanov: ok, i'm not quite ready to specify my idea but i'm close. maybe early next week.
18:13:22 <SergeyLukjanov> #action SergeyLukjanov to create bp about removing/hiding username@image for heat based provisioning
18:13:35 <SergeyLukjanov> #action tmckay to create bp re moving edp samples to sahara and make test jobs examples
18:13:47 <SergeyLukjanov> okay, looks like it's all about action items
18:14:03 <SergeyLukjanov> oh, I forget to include j1 topic
18:14:07 <SergeyLukjanov> #topic Juno-1
18:14:16 <SergeyLukjanov> so, the Juno-1 will be at the next week
18:14:22 <SergeyLukjanov> and m-p cut is June 10
18:14:29 <SergeyLukjanov> == code freeze for j1
18:14:44 <SergeyLukjanov> so, we should make all needed changes landed at Tue
18:15:13 <dmitryme> elmiko: what Swift authentication issue you were talking about? Is it filed as a bug?
18:15:17 <SergeyLukjanov> I don't think that we need an etherpad for CRs to include into the j1
18:15:26 <tmckay> dmitryme, private bug, I'll add you
18:15:31 <elmiko> dmitryme: the issue about username/pass in the workflows. it's a private bug
18:15:47 <dmitryme> tmckay, elmiko: thank you
18:15:54 <tmckay> dmitryme, obvious to anyone using sahara for a while but why shout it? :)
18:15:55 <alazarev> #link https://launchpad.net/sahara/+milestone/juno-1
18:16:10 <SergeyLukjanov> tmckay, yup
18:16:19 <SergeyLukjanov> tmckay, and some exp with lp private bugs
18:16:51 <SergeyLukjanov> фre there any q. re j1?
18:17:18 <SergeyLukjanov> are*
18:17:23 <SergeyLukjanov> okay, moving on
18:17:26 <SergeyLukjanov> #topic Pilot sahara-specs
18:17:33 <SergeyLukjanov> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/sahara-specs,n,z
18:17:40 <SergeyLukjanov> base stuff is on review
18:17:51 <SergeyLukjanov> good note from croberts re UI
18:18:06 <elmiko> agreed, +1
18:18:12 <SergeyLukjanov> folks, please, review this changes, especially template
18:18:34 <SergeyLukjanov> and you could already start creating specs
18:18:39 <SergeyLukjanov> based on this chain
18:18:58 <tmckay> dmitryme, https://bugs.launchpad.net/sahara/+bug/1321906, you should be added
18:19:00 <SergeyLukjanov> any thoughts/questions on it?
18:19:13 <tmckay> I haven't looked yet but I will today
18:19:30 <dmitryme> tmckay: yep, I see it
18:20:54 <SergeyLukjanov> honestly, I don't have anything else in mind to discuss today
18:21:01 <SergeyLukjanov> everything is going well
18:21:13 <alazarev> and what is supposed discussion process with specs? gerrit?
18:21:24 <SergeyLukjanov> alazarev, only gerrit
18:21:36 <SergeyLukjanov> in fact specs idea is the bp review
18:21:43 <SergeyLukjanov> #topic Open discussion
18:21:45 <elmiko> dmitryme: do you have some experience with Swift/Keystone?
18:22:06 <alazarev> and etherpad before specs review?
18:22:13 <SergeyLukjanov> alazarev, nope
18:22:29 <dmitryme> elmiko: I think I have some
18:22:33 <SergeyLukjanov> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Blueprints#Nova
18:22:37 <SergeyLukjanov> alazarev, ^^
18:22:51 <alazarev> elmiko: I have too
18:22:53 <dmitryme> elmiko: something you want to discuss?
18:22:57 <SergeyLukjanov> spec should be discussed in gerrit
18:23:32 <elmiko> dmitryme, alazarev, mainly ideas for solving the swift/auth stuff. i will make a post on the bug report.
18:23:49 <elmiko> i may need some guidance with respect to how Swift authenticates against Keystone
18:23:55 <SergeyLukjanov> crobertsrh, welcome!
18:23:59 <crobertsrh> Heh
18:24:14 <SergeyLukjanov> crobertsrh, any news from merging hell?
18:24:18 <crobertsrh> I'm still hopeful that the dashboard merge will happen someday :)
18:24:27 <dmitryme> elmiko: ok, will take a look at it
18:24:28 <crobertsrh> Currently, I'm adding some basic tests for each of the panels.
18:24:33 <alazarev> SergeyLukjanov: no merges, no hell :)
18:24:58 <crobertsrh> It seems that at least basic tests will be required.  Surprisingly, nobody had commented that on a review yet
18:25:13 <SergeyLukjanov> crobertsrh, tests are great
18:25:28 <alazarev> crobertsrh: I would prefer to have something working first and add tests later
18:25:58 <crobertsrh> alazarev:  I agree.  What is there does work.  It just doesn't sound like it will ever get merged if we don't have at least some tests.
18:26:18 <crobertsrh> These are not the full-blown selenium integration tests, just fairly basic unit tests for each panel
18:26:29 <alazarev> because we will need to bport all bugs merged to sahara-dashboard after branching
18:27:03 <alazarev> faster we have some ‘base’ in horizon faster we will be able to commit only to horizon
18:27:13 <crobertsrh> Yes.  Thanks to the Sahara "regulars" for their reviews so far.  We need to find a bigger hammer to get more horizon people to look (especially their cores)
18:27:29 <SergeyLukjanov> oh, there is one more good question... will we tag j1 in sahara-dashboard?
18:27:48 <alazarev> SergeyLukjanov: I think yes, why not?
18:27:49 <elmiko> crobertsrh: i've been trying to review other horizon stuff as well to help out
18:28:06 <crobertsrh> There are at least one or two fixes there in sahara-dashboard, it should probably be tagged
18:28:10 <SergeyLukjanov> alazarev, it'll be a bit inconsistent to have j1 and don't have j release
18:28:28 <alazarev> I’m reviewing other horizon stuff too
18:28:39 <SergeyLukjanov> I'll discuss it with ttx, but yup, sounds like we need to have s-d j1 tagge
18:28:44 <SergeyLukjanov> tagged*
18:28:53 <alazarev> SergeyLukjanov: we can’t be fully sure in ‘don't have j release’ :)
18:28:56 <crobertsrh> I think that at the end of each horizon review,  you should add "Please look at the sahara stuff!!!"
18:29:18 <elmiko> lol
18:29:58 <alazarev> “-1 (will change to +1 after you review sahara stuff” :)
18:30:04 <crobertsrh> Even better!
18:30:08 <elmiko> alazarev: lol, i was just thinking that!
18:30:56 <SergeyLukjanov> heh
18:31:07 <SergeyLukjanov> I hope we'll have dashboard merged in J
18:31:55 <alazarev> SergeyLukjanov: to do that we will need to speed up horizon core somehow
18:33:23 <crobertsrh> Oh...also, it looks like horizon will split from openstack_dashboard soon in a month or so.
18:34:08 <alazarev> crobertsrh: what do you mean?
18:34:23 <crobertsrh> They are going to have separate repos for the base horizon stuff and the openstack_dashboard stuff
18:34:38 <crobertsrh> our stuff will obviously be part of the openstack_dashboard piece
18:34:49 <crobertsrh> I'm hoping that it's lower-traffic than base horizon
18:35:18 <SergeyLukjanov> oh my
18:35:28 <SergeyLukjanov> but it really could affect reviewing I think
18:35:39 <crobertsrh> Yes, so I'm really hoping we can get merged before they do the split.
18:35:43 <SergeyLukjanov> due to the work that will be needed due to the separation
18:35:47 <crobertsrh> Yes
18:35:51 <alazarev> split sounds reasonable
18:36:08 <crobertsrh> review, review, review.  Make extra accounts and review stuff if you have to :)
18:36:15 <SergeyLukjanov> :)
18:36:25 <crobertsrh> kidnap a horizon core member, if necessary.
18:36:47 <alazarev> SergeyLukjanov: I believe no work will be needed from our side. But review speed could be affected.
18:37:18 <SergeyLukjanov> alazarev, we'll probably need to update something or to move reviews to another repo
18:37:36 <SergeyLukjanov> I don't think that it's easy and fast to split such big project
18:37:51 <alazarev> crobertsrh: extra accounts will not help, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/86648 has 4 +1’s and this doesn’t make any difference
18:38:20 <crobertsrh> True.  It looks like pester/kidnap cores is our only real option.
18:38:29 <alazarev> we need extra accounts that may +2 :)
18:38:47 <crobertsrh> I will certainly up my pestering in their weekly meeting (and in #openstack-horizon)
18:39:20 <NikitaKonovalov> I've seen their separation etherpad and it looks like it is not a very complicated process
18:39:28 <alazarev> when do they have meetings?
18:40:06 <crobertsrh> Tuesdays @ noon my time (UTC 16:00?)
18:40:50 <SergeyLukjanov> anything else to discuss?
18:41:23 <crobertsrh> Nothing here
18:41:29 <alazarev> not from me
18:41:41 <tmckay> nothing here
18:41:43 <elmiko> nothing here
18:41:47 <SergeyLukjanov> okay
18:41:50 <SergeyLukjanov> thank you folks!
18:41:54 <SergeyLukjanov> #endmeeting