18:02:18 <SergeyLukjanov> #startmeeting sahara 18:02:19 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Sep 17 18:02:18 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SergeyLukjanov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:02:20 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 18:02:23 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' 18:02:28 <vgridnev_> hey 18:03:15 <SergeyLukjanov> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SaharaAgenda 18:03:16 <tosky> hi 18:03:21 <SergeyLukjanov> #topic sahara@horizon status (crobertsrh, vgridnev) 18:04:26 <elmiko> i *think* most of the changes have merged, but there are a few outstanding. i'll ping croberts 18:05:28 <elmiko> oh well, he's at lunch :/ 18:05:29 <egafford> I think the etherpad at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-reviews-in-horizon is up to date 18:05:34 <SergeyLukjanov> vitaly seems offline 18:05:39 <SergeyLukjanov> cool 18:05:40 <egafford> All the unmerged reviews are, in fact, unmerged. 18:06:00 <elmiko> very close to having everything merged. nicely done 18:06:13 <SergeyLukjanov> great! 18:06:17 <SergeyLukjanov> #topic News / updates 18:06:17 <egafford> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/209683/ just got merged after its FFE, which was exciting. :D 18:06:51 <SergeyLukjanov> I'm travelling to Mountain View tomorrow and will be there till October 5th, if someone will be there too - let's have some beer ;) 18:07:03 <elmiko> i'm working on improved secret store and some work for the presentations in tokyo 18:07:17 <elmiko> also, doc cleanup in the final stages 18:07:54 <elmiko> SergeyLukjanov: you must have a crazy amount of frequent flyer miles ;) 18:08:06 <egafford> Not much. Working with the TripleO team on their development environment spinup process rewrite and updates to those patches. Hoping to return to really for real full-time Sahara from part-time TripleO by end of month. We'll see how that goes. Also Tokyo presentations. 18:08:28 <tosky> finally got the "scenario CLI tests as tempest plugin" working, going to submit a review sooooon 18:08:38 <egafford> tosky: \o/ 18:08:46 <SergeyLukjanov> elmiko, different companies each time and actually I don't even have a miles card - yes, I'm lazy 18:08:46 <tosky> it required fixing them and some interaction with degorenko (thanks a lot) 18:09:15 <elmiko> ouch... 18:09:15 <SergeyLukjanov> tosky, great! 18:09:23 <elmiko> very cool tosky 18:10:24 <tosky> not so cool comparing to real features, it's just a (small) infrastructural change, but thanks 18:10:50 <elmiko> don't tell me what to think is cool! ;) 18:11:50 <SergeyLukjanov> #topic Liberty-3 and FFEs 18:12:02 <SergeyLukjanov> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-liberty-ffes 18:12:07 <SergeyLukjanov> open q. is about secuirty 18:12:12 <elmiko> yea 18:12:17 <SergeyLukjanov> we'll have first RC actual already NEXT week 18:12:18 <elmiko> i think i should probably retract my request 18:12:25 <elmiko> i'd like more time for testing and review 18:12:30 <SergeyLukjanov> so, all features should be opefully merged till Monday 18:13:08 <egafford> elmiko: Totally reasonable (as per discussion yesterday). 18:13:38 <elmiko> makes me sad, but it's probably for the best to take more time 18:13:46 <tosky> SergeyLukjanov: when will the liberty branch be created exactly (and master == M)? 18:13:49 <egafford> Yeah, absolutely. No last minute feature like a last-minute sec feature. :) 18:14:13 <SergeyLukjanov> tosky, yup 18:14:31 <SergeyLukjanov> elmiko, okay, thx, sorry about that 18:14:39 <SergeyLukjanov> I'm really wanting to have it merged soon 18:14:41 <tosky> SergeyLukjanov: so, the RC day is the branch day? 18:14:48 <SergeyLukjanov> it's great step to the security 18:14:52 <SergeyLukjanov> tosky, exactly 18:14:57 <elmiko> SergeyLukjanov: no worries, i'll make a CR to move improved secret storage to mitaka specs 18:15:07 <SergeyLukjanov> tosky, created with the single script :) 18:16:10 <SergeyLukjanov> any other requests? 18:16:17 <SergeyLukjanov> last second requests :) 18:16:45 <SergeyLukjanov> I think "Ceilometer at the gate" is obsolete topic already 18:16:58 <SergeyLukjanov> do we have something to discuss in "Tokyo summit working group topic discussion" topic? 18:16:59 <elmiko> yea 18:17:19 <elmiko> not sure about tokyo sessions, has anyone updated the pad? 18:17:37 <elmiko> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-sahara-session-plans 18:17:59 <egafford> We talked about my topic last week a little, and the information is there and unchanged. 18:18:04 <elmiko> nice, good ideas up there 18:18:29 <SergeyLukjanov> #topic Tokyo summit working group topic discussion 18:18:34 <egafford> elmiko: We should probably put Zaqar integration / guest agents as a top-tier notion up there. 18:18:45 <elmiko> +1 18:18:52 <SergeyLukjanov> +1 18:18:57 <elmiko> that might be for a working group session? 18:19:14 <egafford> Makes sense, yeah. 18:19:28 <egafford> It's definitely enough to fill an hour... 18:19:30 <elmiko> SergeyLukjanov: i think one of our fishbowls should be a "state of sahara" type session 18:20:18 <SergeyLukjanov> elmiko, agreed 18:20:28 <egafford> elmiko: +1 18:20:45 <SergeyLukjanov> elmiko, could you please add summit sessions etherpad with it? I have a bad internet connection and it's not working for me :( 18:20:56 <elmiko> not sure about the other fishbowl, i don't think we have enough security content to fill an entire hour 18:20:59 <elmiko> SergeyLukjanov: will do 18:22:32 <egafford> elmiko: Sec makes a little more sense for a working room to me, but fishbowl could work too. 18:23:04 <elmiko> egafford: i think working room makes more sense, we didn't get quite as much done as i would have liked this cycle, but i have many plans to talk about 18:23:11 <SergeyLukjanov> so, for the fishbowl vs working session 18:23:15 <elmiko> i could go either way, depending on what folks want 18:23:21 <SergeyLukjanov> if we sant to attract more people - fishbowl 18:23:31 <SergeyLukjanov> but if we want to decide something - working session 18:23:36 <egafford> SergeyLukjanov: :) 18:23:37 <elmiko> hehe, so true 18:23:49 <elmiko> i'd like to get someone else involved with our security efforts too 18:24:03 <elmiko> i have a bunch of ideas but not enough time... 18:25:02 <egafford> elmiko: +1; there are a lot of UX stories I really want to tackle next cycle (API 2.0 or bust!), but we can triage. 18:25:23 <elmiko> yea, plus apiv2 would be nice to work on as well! 18:25:48 <egafford> Don't know if we should have a WG about API v2 / UX. 18:26:05 <egafford> It's a very ongoing concern, with a lot of prior conversations behind it. 18:26:10 <elmiko> working group on v2 would be really useful imo, we cold cement the plans in flight 18:26:22 <elmiko> and UX should definitely be a session 18:26:37 <egafford> elmiko: I can see it. Well, I think API v2 and UX are joined at the hip. 18:27:08 <elmiko> egafford: good point, i just think there are many issues we could talk about for UX. maybe let the api discussion follow the UX plans? 18:27:09 <egafford> The question is whether we'd get hung up on specifics of APIv2 and miss the UX forest if we put them together. 18:27:18 <elmiko> yea, that's my concern 18:27:26 <elmiko> i want to ensure we have ample time to talk about UX 18:27:29 <egafford> Think we're on a wavelength, yeah. 18:27:49 <elmiko> i think most of the api v2 plans are in good shape, but we could get really hung-up bikeshedding the whole thing 18:27:58 <egafford> elmiko: Yeah, it's my hope that Mitaka is the cycle of taking what we already have and making it really, really friendly. 18:28:03 <egafford> Yes, that's a risk. :) 18:28:11 <egafford> I do love me a good bikeshed. 18:28:17 <elmiko> +1 for friendlifying ;) 18:28:31 <egafford> +1 for the word "firendlifying". 18:28:35 <elmiko> haha 18:28:39 <egafford> s/that/what you said/ 18:28:45 <egafford> Anyway. 18:29:09 <egafford> UX discussion might actually be a decent fishbowl. 18:29:33 <egafford> As it's more brainstorming than specific technical decision, and customers might even attend. 18:29:38 <elmiko> i think there is enough content for it, but like SergeyLukjanov said fishbowl might not get as much accomplished 18:29:52 <elmiko> ok, that makes sense 18:30:12 <elmiko> let's at least put it on the pad as a possible fishbowl idea 18:30:30 <SergeyLukjanov> yup 18:31:39 <egafford> Done; UX fishbowl, zaqar WG, API v2 WG stubbed out on the sheet. 18:31:47 <elmiko> awesome, thanks! 18:31:49 <egafford> Any other ideas for groups for summit 18:31:50 <egafford> ? 18:32:12 <elmiko> i'll add a few more bullet points for apiv2 to the pad 18:32:30 <egafford> elmiko: Woot. Yeah, those are stubby, as I don't know that I'll own them. 18:32:33 <elmiko> oh, sec. stuff should be on working room. i'll add it 18:34:38 <elmiko> anything else on this topic? 18:35:44 <egafford> I'm gonna go with "no" at this point. 18:36:11 <SergeyLukjanov> I don't have ideas, but we have around 5 weeks before summit 18:36:13 <SergeyLukjanov> or 6 18:36:17 <SergeyLukjanov> couldn't count ;) 18:36:30 <SergeyLukjanov> #topic Open discussion 18:39:05 <elmiko> SergeyLukjanov: i sent an email retracting the FFE for the secret store 18:40:29 <SergeyLukjanov> elmiko, ack 18:40:47 * SergeyLukjanov just got the priority pass card from my bank, so, will hopefully sleep this time in a business lounge instead of just gate :) 18:41:05 <egafford> Whoa, SergeyLukjanov is fancy. 18:41:12 <elmiko> +1, sleeping at the gate is terribad 18:41:30 <crobertsrh> agreed. No more gate sleeping. 18:41:31 <egafford> +1, admittedly. 18:41:46 <elmiko> crobertsrh: although we did pretty well on the way back from vancouver lol 18:41:49 <egafford> Eh, I will probably keep sleeping at gates. Won't like it though. 18:42:11 <crobertsrh> I can sleep anywhere now that I have 2 kids. 18:42:16 <elmiko> haha 18:42:34 <SergeyLukjanov> heh, internet failure 18:42:37 <SergeyLukjanov> hopefully, I'm still here 18:43:10 <SergeyLukjanov> so, who're going to summit? 18:43:18 <SergeyLukjanov> from Mirantis - me and Nikita Konovalov 18:43:21 <crobertsrh> I will be there 18:43:25 <egafford> SergeyLukjanov: You are. We're just chatting about sleeping at gates. :) 18:43:40 <egafford> I'll be there. 18:43:43 <SergeyLukjanov> not sure that it was sent - [21:41:32] <SergeyLukjanov> elmiko, was never tried other options 😊 18:44:09 <SergeyLukjanov> do you probably know - does Matt planning to attend? 18:44:18 <elmiko> think so 18:45:08 <crobertsrh> Of course, he planned on Vancouver as well :) 18:45:51 <SergeyLukjanov> :) 18:46:16 <SergeyLukjanov> anything else to discuss? 18:46:37 <SergeyLukjanov> oh, Denis Egorenko will be on summit as well I think 18:46:38 <elmiko> nothing from me 18:47:20 <crobertsrh> Nothing here 18:48:27 <egafford> Nothing :) 18:48:47 <SergeyLukjanov> okay, so, let's have another 10 minutes to work :) 18:49:07 <elmiko> hehe, nice 18:51:43 <elmiko> #endmeeting 18:51:53 <elmiko> well, i tried... 18:52:03 <SergeyLukjanov> #endmeeting