18:02:18 #startmeeting sahara 18:02:19 Meeting started Thu Sep 17 18:02:18 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SergeyLukjanov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:02:20 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 18:02:23 The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' 18:02:28 hey 18:03:15 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SaharaAgenda 18:03:16 hi 18:03:21 #topic sahara@horizon status (crobertsrh, vgridnev) 18:04:26 i *think* most of the changes have merged, but there are a few outstanding. i'll ping croberts 18:05:28 oh well, he's at lunch :/ 18:05:29 I think the etherpad at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-reviews-in-horizon is up to date 18:05:34 vitaly seems offline 18:05:39 cool 18:05:40 All the unmerged reviews are, in fact, unmerged. 18:06:00 very close to having everything merged. nicely done 18:06:13 great! 18:06:17 #topic News / updates 18:06:17 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/209683/ just got merged after its FFE, which was exciting. :D 18:06:51 I'm travelling to Mountain View tomorrow and will be there till October 5th, if someone will be there too - let's have some beer ;) 18:07:03 i'm working on improved secret store and some work for the presentations in tokyo 18:07:17 also, doc cleanup in the final stages 18:07:54 SergeyLukjanov: you must have a crazy amount of frequent flyer miles ;) 18:08:06 Not much. Working with the TripleO team on their development environment spinup process rewrite and updates to those patches. Hoping to return to really for real full-time Sahara from part-time TripleO by end of month. We'll see how that goes. Also Tokyo presentations. 18:08:28 finally got the "scenario CLI tests as tempest plugin" working, going to submit a review sooooon 18:08:38 tosky: \o/ 18:08:46 elmiko, different companies each time and actually I don't even have a miles card - yes, I'm lazy 18:08:46 it required fixing them and some interaction with degorenko (thanks a lot) 18:09:15 ouch... 18:09:15 tosky, great! 18:09:23 very cool tosky 18:10:24 not so cool comparing to real features, it's just a (small) infrastructural change, but thanks 18:10:50 don't tell me what to think is cool! ;) 18:11:50 #topic Liberty-3 and FFEs 18:12:02 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-liberty-ffes 18:12:07 open q. is about secuirty 18:12:12 yea 18:12:17 we'll have first RC actual already NEXT week 18:12:18 i think i should probably retract my request 18:12:25 i'd like more time for testing and review 18:12:30 so, all features should be opefully merged till Monday 18:13:08 elmiko: Totally reasonable (as per discussion yesterday). 18:13:38 makes me sad, but it's probably for the best to take more time 18:13:46 SergeyLukjanov: when will the liberty branch be created exactly (and master == M)? 18:13:49 Yeah, absolutely. No last minute feature like a last-minute sec feature. :) 18:14:13 tosky, yup 18:14:31 elmiko, okay, thx, sorry about that 18:14:39 I'm really wanting to have it merged soon 18:14:41 SergeyLukjanov: so, the RC day is the branch day? 18:14:48 it's great step to the security 18:14:52 tosky, exactly 18:14:57 SergeyLukjanov: no worries, i'll make a CR to move improved secret storage to mitaka specs 18:15:07 tosky, created with the single script :) 18:16:10 any other requests? 18:16:17 last second requests :) 18:16:45 I think "Ceilometer at the gate" is obsolete topic already 18:16:58 do we have something to discuss in "Tokyo summit working group topic discussion" topic? 18:16:59 yea 18:17:19 not sure about tokyo sessions, has anyone updated the pad? 18:17:37 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-sahara-session-plans 18:17:59 We talked about my topic last week a little, and the information is there and unchanged. 18:18:04 nice, good ideas up there 18:18:29 #topic Tokyo summit working group topic discussion 18:18:34 elmiko: We should probably put Zaqar integration / guest agents as a top-tier notion up there. 18:18:45 +1 18:18:52 +1 18:18:57 that might be for a working group session? 18:19:14 Makes sense, yeah. 18:19:28 It's definitely enough to fill an hour... 18:19:30 SergeyLukjanov: i think one of our fishbowls should be a "state of sahara" type session 18:20:18 elmiko, agreed 18:20:28 elmiko: +1 18:20:45 elmiko, could you please add summit sessions etherpad with it? I have a bad internet connection and it's not working for me :( 18:20:56 not sure about the other fishbowl, i don't think we have enough security content to fill an entire hour 18:20:59 SergeyLukjanov: will do 18:22:32 elmiko: Sec makes a little more sense for a working room to me, but fishbowl could work too. 18:23:04 egafford: i think working room makes more sense, we didn't get quite as much done as i would have liked this cycle, but i have many plans to talk about 18:23:11 so, for the fishbowl vs working session 18:23:15 i could go either way, depending on what folks want 18:23:21 if we sant to attract more people - fishbowl 18:23:31 but if we want to decide something - working session 18:23:36 SergeyLukjanov: :) 18:23:37 hehe, so true 18:23:49 i'd like to get someone else involved with our security efforts too 18:24:03 i have a bunch of ideas but not enough time... 18:25:02 elmiko: +1; there are a lot of UX stories I really want to tackle next cycle (API 2.0 or bust!), but we can triage. 18:25:23 yea, plus apiv2 would be nice to work on as well! 18:25:48 Don't know if we should have a WG about API v2 / UX. 18:26:05 It's a very ongoing concern, with a lot of prior conversations behind it. 18:26:10 working group on v2 would be really useful imo, we cold cement the plans in flight 18:26:22 and UX should definitely be a session 18:26:37 elmiko: I can see it. Well, I think API v2 and UX are joined at the hip. 18:27:08 egafford: good point, i just think there are many issues we could talk about for UX. maybe let the api discussion follow the UX plans? 18:27:09 The question is whether we'd get hung up on specifics of APIv2 and miss the UX forest if we put them together. 18:27:18 yea, that's my concern 18:27:26 i want to ensure we have ample time to talk about UX 18:27:29 Think we're on a wavelength, yeah. 18:27:49 i think most of the api v2 plans are in good shape, but we could get really hung-up bikeshedding the whole thing 18:27:58 elmiko: Yeah, it's my hope that Mitaka is the cycle of taking what we already have and making it really, really friendly. 18:28:03 Yes, that's a risk. :) 18:28:11 I do love me a good bikeshed. 18:28:17 +1 for friendlifying ;) 18:28:31 +1 for the word "firendlifying". 18:28:35 haha 18:28:39 s/that/what you said/ 18:28:45 Anyway. 18:29:09 UX discussion might actually be a decent fishbowl. 18:29:33 As it's more brainstorming than specific technical decision, and customers might even attend. 18:29:38 i think there is enough content for it, but like SergeyLukjanov said fishbowl might not get as much accomplished 18:29:52 ok, that makes sense 18:30:12 let's at least put it on the pad as a possible fishbowl idea 18:30:30 yup 18:31:39 Done; UX fishbowl, zaqar WG, API v2 WG stubbed out on the sheet. 18:31:47 awesome, thanks! 18:31:49 Any other ideas for groups for summit 18:31:50 ? 18:32:12 i'll add a few more bullet points for apiv2 to the pad 18:32:30 elmiko: Woot. Yeah, those are stubby, as I don't know that I'll own them. 18:32:33 oh, sec. stuff should be on working room. i'll add it 18:34:38 anything else on this topic? 18:35:44 I'm gonna go with "no" at this point. 18:36:11 I don't have ideas, but we have around 5 weeks before summit 18:36:13 or 6 18:36:17 couldn't count ;) 18:36:30 #topic Open discussion 18:39:05 SergeyLukjanov: i sent an email retracting the FFE for the secret store 18:40:29 elmiko, ack 18:40:47 * SergeyLukjanov just got the priority pass card from my bank, so, will hopefully sleep this time in a business lounge instead of just gate :) 18:41:05 Whoa, SergeyLukjanov is fancy. 18:41:12 +1, sleeping at the gate is terribad 18:41:30 agreed. No more gate sleeping. 18:41:31 +1, admittedly. 18:41:46 crobertsrh: although we did pretty well on the way back from vancouver lol 18:41:49 Eh, I will probably keep sleeping at gates. Won't like it though. 18:42:11 I can sleep anywhere now that I have 2 kids. 18:42:16 haha 18:42:34 heh, internet failure 18:42:37 hopefully, I'm still here 18:43:10 so, who're going to summit? 18:43:18 from Mirantis - me and Nikita Konovalov 18:43:21 I will be there 18:43:25 SergeyLukjanov: You are. We're just chatting about sleeping at gates. :) 18:43:40 I'll be there. 18:43:43 not sure that it was sent - [21:41:32] elmiko, was never tried other options 😊 18:44:09 do you probably know - does Matt planning to attend? 18:44:18 think so 18:45:08 Of course, he planned on Vancouver as well :) 18:45:51 :) 18:46:16 anything else to discuss? 18:46:37 oh, Denis Egorenko will be on summit as well I think 18:46:38 nothing from me 18:47:20 Nothing here 18:48:27 Nothing :) 18:48:47 okay, so, let's have another 10 minutes to work :) 18:49:07 hehe, nice 18:51:43 #endmeeting 18:51:53 well, i tried... 18:52:03 #endmeeting