18:01:27 <vgridnev> #startmeeting sahara
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18:01:32 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'sahara'
18:01:34 <esikachev> hi
18:01:37 <zemuvier> hi
18:01:37 <tosky> hi :) (in the proper place)
18:01:38 <egafford> o/
18:01:38 <NikitaKonovalov_> o/
18:01:39 <vgridnev> \o/
18:02:07 <vgridnev> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SaharaAgenda
18:02:20 <mionkin_> Hi
18:02:26 <vgridnev> #topic News / updates
18:02:45 <elmiko> hi
18:02:49 <tosky> trying to get sahara-tests in shape for a new release
18:03:16 <egafford> doc days is going pretty full-speed at this point.
18:03:24 <egafford> doc days are?
18:03:26 <esikachev> working on improvements sahara-tests and sahara-ci stability
18:03:38 <mionkin_> Fix deploying HDP on Ubuntu, updating docs
18:03:39 <vgridnev> so, we did RC1 today, but probably we will need RC2 if there are some translation updates or so on. If there are a release critical bug, we can consider that also
18:03:42 <tenobreg> o/
18:03:43 <vgridnev> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/370948/
18:03:58 <zemuvier> fixing tempest cli tests, trying to fix the bug with image registration in sahara scenario
18:05:08 <vgridnev> so stable/newton branch is now created, so master is open for ocata development (shortly saying)
18:05:18 <tenobreg> I'm mostly reviewing docs and probably going to pick up some on the list to write it myself
18:05:48 <egafford> vgridnev: Are we good with backporting doc fixes from ongoing work for stable/newton for RC2?
18:06:38 * egafford assumes that should be fine; just checking to make sure I should start cherry picking doc fixes.
18:06:48 <vgridnev> egafford, we can merge changes about docs, but only in master, I think
18:08:26 <tosky> I would say that doc fixes can be backported after that they are pushed to master
18:08:38 <tosky> especially because at this point they are definitely relevant to newton
18:08:41 <egafford> vgridnev: Okay, noted. Thought we had a bit more time to get the docs in place for the release.
18:09:17 * egafford does agree with tosky on this one; it'd be really nice to get our docs to a more accurate place, and the team only really turned its attention to the docs in the last few days.
18:09:40 <egafford> We're doing great now, but there are still a bunch of nice to have doc patches up and more to do.
18:10:21 <vgridnev> actually official docs are relying on master branch, so I don't think we really need to put those into release right now. we can cherry-pick those to stable branch after official Newton release
18:10:57 <egafford> Interesting.
18:11:04 <egafford> But that works for me.
18:11:35 <tosky> oh
18:13:05 <egafford> It'd be nice to get the docs into the newton release (so the tree will have the correct text for newcomers), but if we need to wait for a point release, it's not strictly the end of the world.
18:13:06 <vgridnev> #topic Open discussion
18:13:38 <crobertsrh> hello/  (sorry, got distracted and wound-up late to the party)
18:13:48 <vgridnev> egafford, could you please collect doc - changes to be merged after release?
18:13:51 <egafford> crobertsrh: crobertsrh as I live and breathe!
18:13:56 <egafford> vgridnev: Absolutely.
18:14:20 <crobertsrh> I remain a lurker on reviews....mostly dashboard, but wherever I may have some insight
18:14:55 <egafford> Your lurking is much appreciated.
18:15:38 <vgridnev> so, we will have 7wr at the summit
18:15:54 <vgridnev> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-ocata-summit
18:17:05 <vgridnev> +cm
18:18:00 <NikitaKonovalov_> vgridnev: you've asked if there are questions that we would like to address to our users. What are the next steps? How will we see the results?
18:20:05 <tellesnobrega> sorry for the coming and going, internet is being a pain today
18:20:23 <vgridnev> NikitaKonovalov_, so, that was a question from Product WG, and if I'm right will get results with usual presentation about release around summit, but I definitely will ask PWG about that to be completely sure.
18:21:24 <NikitaKonovalov_> ok, makes sence to look at their sessions
18:22:28 <egafford> I don't know that there's a ton to talk about on image gen at the moment; we have a path and we should follow it. The last session was kind of us sitting in a room agreeing with each other. I can run a presentation for the team on how the new CLI and validator stuff works at the beginning of O if we like, but I don't know whether it's worth taking a WR for it.
18:22:51 <egafford> LCM, upgrades, and cluster provisioning improvements all seem valuable and big.
18:24:39 <tellesnobrega> egafford, those topics do seem like the higher priorities... at least on what needs to be done discussion point of view
18:24:44 <vgridnev> egafford, if we have free working rooms, we can release that in pool for other projects, but it such case we will need to understand what we REALLY need
18:25:52 <tosky> egafford: I would say that in the last session there was no much code and demo to go, but yeah, let's see :)
18:26:38 <vgridnev> so, I vote for CLI for image generation WR (we have to complete that for sure in O);  Tests, LCM, Upgrades for Sahara; cluster provisioning
18:26:45 <vgridnev> So, 5, right?
18:27:07 <tosky> seems so, yeah
18:28:19 <egafford> vgridnev: We're actually really close on image generation at this point. It should be quite possible. Don't know if we'll get to the final stage of having an API to build the images, but I also don't know if that's a very high priority (it'd be nice, but.)
18:29:07 <egafford> I can definitely demo a bunch at summit during that WR.
18:29:24 <egafford> (And as long as the team thinks that's useful, very happy to do it. :) )
18:30:10 <vgridnev> egafford, so we have the intern who always eager to get some task around API and UX
18:30:22 <egafford> So we have 2 more slots, and the candidates are: {EDP, Horizon, anti-affinity}
18:30:29 <egafford> vgridnev: Awesome! Who's that?
18:30:45 <vgridnev> (I'm talking about Michael Lelyakin)
18:30:58 * egafford is hoping to lure an Outreachy intern as well. Ah, awesome; didn't know he was an intern.
18:31:09 <egafford> He seemed to be an awesome developer doing a ton of work. :)
18:31:56 <tellesnobrega> egafford, I may get someone to guide on sahara as well, so we may get some extra hands here
18:32:06 <egafford> Yay new people.
18:32:18 <tellesnobrega> all that we can hope for
18:32:48 <egafford> vgridnev: On your side, do you have customers using EDP much or are they just using the native interfaces of the cluster?
18:33:02 * egafford is wondering about prio on EDP based on customer usage.
18:34:58 <vgridnev> egafford, actually I saw some customers were using EDP, but not so much. But actually I think that is because it's not so much usable right now
18:35:12 <egafford> vgridnev: Yeah.
18:35:44 <tenobreg> vgridnev, +2... we should make EDP a lot more user friendly
18:36:31 <egafford> So we're thinking EDP as #6?
18:36:39 <egafford> (It's certainly a huge area of concern for us.)
18:37:11 <vgridnev> so, currently EDP is cool for testing our envs (like integration tests with Swift is working well, and so on). So, sold, EDP for #6
18:37:58 <egafford> And #7...
18:38:13 <egafford> Horizon, anti-affinity, your-topic-here
18:39:42 <vgridnev> so, not Horizon I think, Anti-affinity is in cluster provisioning WR; So, probably we can put that in the pool for other teams?
18:39:46 <vgridnev> Or
18:39:51 <vgridnev> NikitaKonovalov
18:40:34 <egafford> Yeah 6 WR + CM seems enough to me.
18:41:01 <NikitaKonovalov_> I think we can keep A-a for the CM
18:41:28 <NikitaKonovalov_> it's not a huge topic
18:41:58 <egafford> Yeah, I can't imagine us talking about that for 50 minutes.
18:42:50 <elmiko> i gotta head out, but just wanted to mention that i will be available for video conference if we want to talk about how to continue the api v2 work
18:43:21 <tenobreg> seems like a lot of silence in between to hit that 50 min mark
18:45:09 <vgridnev> I fear that CM is not a good place for video conference (judging by Austin summit, it was quite noisy)
18:46:24 <egafford> vgridnev: Depends on the room, but yeah.
18:48:06 <egafford> Okay, that seems like a reasonable set of WR to me certainly.
18:49:04 <tenobreg> +1
18:50:02 <vgridnev> Okay, API + LCM + EDP + Upgrades, Tests + Cluster provisioning + Image CLI, right ?
18:50:18 <vgridnev> or just CM for Image CLI?
18:50:42 <egafford> Upgrades and Tests are the same thing?
18:51:06 <egafford> vgridnev: I can give a demo and presentation on the image gen stuff in either format; do not care.
18:51:08 <vgridnev> misprint, egafford . , -> +
18:51:19 <egafford> vgridnev: Cool.
18:52:01 <egafford> Spending some CM time prioritizing all the stuff we just talked about is useful, but it's always like half a day long so I can definitely fit a demo + presentation into either slot.
18:53:05 <vgridnev> Yeah, so resolution is that 6WR + cm is enough for us
18:53:32 <vgridnev> i will release one wr for other teams then
18:54:15 <vgridnev> anything else that we can cover?
18:54:40 <egafford> And CM topics include image gen demo and training, anti-affinity if not covered in cluster provisioning section,  prio.
18:55:03 <vgridnev> yep
18:55:32 <vgridnev> uh, one moment
18:55:33 <vgridnev> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/370835/
18:55:47 <egafford> +1 :)
18:56:36 <tenobreg> +1 :)
18:57:37 <vgridnev> if there are no other topics to discuss we can finish for today. thanks everyone!
18:57:47 <vgridnev> #endmeting
18:57:56 <vgridnev> hm
18:57:59 <vgridnev> #endmeeting