14:01:10 <tosky> #startmeeting sahara
14:01:11 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Dec 14 14:01:10 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tosky. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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14:01:15 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'sahara'
14:01:19 <shuyingya> o/
14:01:26 <tosky> hi! Telles may not be around, so I will chair this time
14:02:05 <tosky> it looks like it may be quick, but let's see
14:02:12 <tosky> #topic News/Updated
14:03:06 <tosky> Telles told me that he is working on ambari 2.3 and mapr 5.2 images (image-pack), and also fighting with the UI support for decommissioning nodes
14:03:50 <tosky> I will have a bit more of free time to fix the zuul jobs, the remaining failing CLI tempest job, and hopefully adding new jobs
14:04:12 <shuyingya> hi tosky, still working on vanilla upgrade, and cluster works now, but has some problem right now. Maybe affects 2.7.1 too
14:04:17 <tosky> oh, it's the first meeting with shuyingya as core, congratulation again!
14:04:30 <shuyingya> haha, thanks tosky
14:05:46 <tosky> one of the reason why I'm watching closely the progress on native zuul multinode jobs, is to have at least a proper vanilla test and prevent regressions
14:06:21 <tellesnobrega> o/ hey guys, made it a little bit late but made it
14:06:23 <shuyingya> col
14:06:30 <tosky> oh, good!
14:06:32 <shuyingya> cool
14:06:54 <tosky> tellesnobrega: so we just shared the updates, I wrote down what you told me (image-pack for two plugins and UI for horizon
14:07:03 <tellesnobrega> please keep going, you are in charge today tosky
14:07:05 <tellesnobrega> thanks
14:07:15 <shuyingya> :)
14:07:35 <shuyingya> tosky, we don't have sahara-ci anymore?
14:08:00 <tosky> shuyingya: not the old one
14:08:28 <tosky> there is some work in progress both on the scripts to set up (Evgeny sent a stream of reviews some time ago) and, more important, the hardware
14:08:39 <tosky> Jeremy knows better the status of the hardware
14:08:54 <tosky> but even without the sahara-ci we can set some jobs on the main infra
14:09:05 <tellesnobrega> I sent out the requested email to MOC people but haven't got a response
14:10:18 <tosky> I guess we may go quickly through the status of the plugins
14:10:24 <tosky> #topic Plugin update status
14:10:40 <tosky> shuyingya just mentioned the upgrade of vanilla
14:11:06 <shuyingya> most of the task has been finished.
14:11:07 <tosky> Spark 2.2 was merged
14:11:38 <shuyingya> still some bugs need further investigate
14:12:19 <tosky> oh, no, Spark 2.2 is still not merged in s-i-e
14:12:29 <tosky> no, sorry, misread
14:12:33 * tosky rewinds
14:12:42 <tosky> Spark 2.2.0 and Storm 1.1.1 merged
14:12:55 <tosky> shuyingya: something that can be fixed in few days of work?
14:13:44 <shuyingya> about vanilla, do you have any idea about the version of other services like hive, oozie, spark on yarn?
14:13:48 <shuyingya> tosky, sure.
14:14:42 <shuyingya> I think it can be fixed in next few days if there is no new bugs :)
14:14:47 <tosky> perfect!
14:15:28 <tellesnobrega> shuyingya, you mean what versions should be on vanilla for those services?
14:15:28 <shuyingya> I would like to enable vanilla 2.8.2 includes: hive -> 1.2.2   oozie -> 4.30  and spark -> 2.2.0
14:15:33 <tosky> about the other services, I'm not sure; my personal idea is: the most recent stable version that works with that version of vanilla and all the versions of the other components
14:15:36 <shuyingya> yes
14:16:04 <tellesnobrega> I agree with tosky, just make sure the the version is supported
14:16:39 <shuyingya> ok, I will confirm it tomorrow.
14:17:13 <tosky> anything else about the plugin versions?
14:17:33 <tellesnobrega> I haven't started working on ambari yet
14:17:42 <tellesnobrega> will take a look on that hopefully by next week
14:18:15 <tosky> yeah, and hopefully we can unify the version of ambari (spawning different HDP with the same ambari)
14:19:20 <tellesnobrega> tosky, HDP/Ambari always confuses me
14:19:29 <tellesnobrega> but will read on it
14:20:30 <tosky> eheh, that's why I think that using only one ambari version would be better for everyone
14:21:26 <tosky> ok, if there is nothing else on this topic, I would (ab)use my chair position for an unexpected topic
14:21:54 <tellesnobrega> go for it
14:21:56 <tosky> #topic Longer OpenStack release cycles?
14:22:03 <tosky> soo, really quick
14:22:32 <tosky> there is an big discussion (>=40 emails in 1 day) about changing the release schedule of OpenStack to 1 year
14:23:09 <tosky> or in general extending it, but 9 months is not possible due to the ongoing preparation for the Summit in the next 2 years
14:23:12 <tellesnobrega> yeah, a bit overwhelming
14:23:27 <tosky> if you haven't seen the discussion, please take a look at it
14:23:56 <tosky> it would be interesting to hear from the "not-usual" contributors
14:24:26 <tosky> for example, shuyingya and all the people that he is trying to bring aboard
14:24:51 <tellesnobrega> exactly what I thought when I first read some of the ideas at the thread
14:25:02 <tosky> my really personal view is that I'd welcome a longer release cycle, but without reducing the requirements for features freeze
14:25:13 <tosky> it would give me more time to work properly - but that's me :)
14:25:28 <tosky> so if you want to share your ideas now, feel free to
14:25:42 <tellesnobrega> I like the idea of a longer cycle as well
14:26:55 <tellesnobrega> BUT, I fear that longer cycles with no structure can delay a lot development because we just have more time
14:27:27 <tellesnobrega> it would take a little more effort from PTLs, core team to keep the work flowing smoothly
14:27:33 <tellesnobrega> not sure what the solution is
14:27:48 <shuyingya> I am not reading it carefully, but it would be good for core team or ATC who focusing on it.
14:28:00 <tosky> I agree about the structure: that's why I would prefer 9 months, because it gives "just" the more time needed from some stabilization, reducing the fixed costs associated with each releases
14:28:06 <tosky> but 9 months is not possible, so...
14:28:28 <tellesnobrega> true
14:30:18 <tosky> (anyway, I miscounted, more than 80 emails in the thread)
14:31:37 <tosky> any other comments on this topic? And also: any other topics before the Open discussion?
14:33:15 <tellesnobrega> not from me
14:33:47 <tosky> #topic Open Discussion
14:34:30 <tosky> tellesnobrega: quick question about the UI support for the job removal; if it's linked to v2, don't we need saharaclient v2 support first? Or are you evaluating how to add it regardless of the API?
14:35:02 <tellesnobrega> job removal?
14:35:11 <tellesnobrega> instance removal, right?
14:35:49 <tellesnobrega> I'm evaluating how to add regardless of the API, but you are right, we need APIv2 first
14:37:26 <tosky> instance removal, yes
14:37:33 <tosky> ok, I guessed so :)
14:38:14 <tosky> landing an experimental 2.0 in Queens, if Rocky is going longer, we can probably kick it out from experimental status in one cycle only maybe
14:38:16 <tosky> but let's see
14:38:37 <tellesnobrega> that would actually be good
14:39:03 <tellesnobrega> as I said to you, but making it official here, jeremey is working on adding APIv2 discovery on the client
14:41:11 <tellesnobrega> I want to officially welcome shuyingya to the core team
14:41:20 <tellesnobrega> congrats and well deserved :)
14:42:18 <tosky> yep :)
14:42:36 <tosky> anything else to share?
14:42:44 <tellesnobrega> not from me
14:43:44 <shuyingya> thanks for your warm welcoming :)
14:44:04 <shuyingya> just get a phone call. not from me too
14:46:24 <tellesnobrega> I guess you can close tosky
14:46:38 <tosky> yep, I was waiting for the 5-minutes timeout
14:46:43 <tosky> but we are good enough
14:46:56 <tosky> thanks all, see you on the normal channel
14:47:03 <tosky> #endmeeting