14:02:28 <jeremyfreudberg> #startmeeting sahara
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14:02:33 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'sahara'
14:02:50 <tellesnobrega> o/
14:02:50 <tosky> o/
14:03:00 <jeremyfreudberg> #topic News/Updates
14:03:41 <tellesnobrega> not much on my side, basically reviewing the final patches, and celebrating that python 3 is in
14:04:31 <jeremyfreudberg> same here
14:04:39 <tosky> still battling with grenade, but in the meantime I fixed the kolla support for plugins (and Fedora), puppet support for trustee, unlocked openstack-ansibile-os_sahara gates
14:04:42 <tellesnobrega> later I want to show you all the rc1 patch for sahara with cycle highlights, so you can give me some feedback
14:05:06 <jeremyfreudberg> tellesnobrega, i'll make it a topic
14:05:12 <jeremyfreudberg> thanks tosky, i saw some of those
14:05:12 <tosky> and fixed two breakages in our jobs introduced by Zuul switching to Ansible 2.7
14:06:10 <jeremyfreudberg> cool, moving on
14:06:17 <jeremyfreudberg> #topic RC1 and cycle highlights
14:06:30 <jeremyfreudberg> today is the rc1 deadline, which is also the cycle highlights deadline
14:06:55 <tellesnobrega> yes, I have a -1 on the sahara patch so we can include python 3 and cycle highlights
14:07:12 <jeremyfreudberg> yup, and sahara-dashboard will need its release patch updated too
14:07:24 <jeremyfreudberg> feel free to fill us in on the cycle highlights
14:07:35 <tellesnobrega> jeremyfreudberg, yes
14:07:36 <tellesnobrega> - Sahara plugins are removed from core code for easier maintenance and upgrades.
14:07:36 <tellesnobrega> - Release of APIv2.
14:07:36 <tellesnobrega> - Improvements on boot from volume feature.
14:08:02 <tellesnobrega> those are the highlights I have written, please feel free to tweak
14:08:15 <jeremyfreudberg> i think it's right (and it sounds good), let me just check the git history
14:08:23 <tellesnobrega> also, jeremyfreudberg, do you want to update those patches?
14:09:51 <jeremyfreudberg> i can update them
14:10:04 <jeremyfreudberg> i think those highlights are good
14:10:13 <jeremyfreudberg> maybe just say "Release of APIv2 as stable"
14:10:36 <tellesnobrega> that makes sense
14:10:50 <jeremyfreudberg> i'll include that when i update the release patch
14:11:04 <jeremyfreudberg> otherwise it's really good, so thanks for writing
14:11:30 <tellesnobrega> you are welcome :)
14:11:40 <jeremyfreudberg> anything else on this?
14:12:14 <tellesnobrega> not from me
14:12:41 <tosky> fine with the proposal
14:12:46 <jeremyfreudberg> ok, moving on
14:12:50 <jeremyfreudberg> #topic Virtual PTG
14:13:30 <jeremyfreudberg> i'm a bit early on this one, but i just wanted to mention it now that i think a virtual PTG is a good idea
14:13:51 <jeremyfreudberg> I think it was the Rocky PTG where we were successful in doing that
14:14:06 <jeremyfreudberg> anyway, not much to say here, but just watch for an eventual email about it
14:14:22 <tellesnobrega> jeremyfreudberg, yes, do you have ideas for a date?
14:14:48 <tosky> I agree that it's an interesting idea
14:15:25 <jeremyfreudberg> i think some time between may 6 and 10 would be good, but it really could be whenever
14:15:45 <jeremyfreudberg> unless you think we should do it sooner
14:16:12 <jeremyfreudberg> may 6-10 was based on the real ptg date, but maybe it's not optimal to be siting here for a month waiting for it to happen
14:16:23 <tellesnobrega> just wanted to make sure it wasn't during PTG time, I'll be traveling back from Denver
14:16:57 <tellesnobrega> I will be back on May 4th
14:17:07 <tellesnobrega> but earlier could be good as well
14:17:15 <jeremyfreudberg> oh, i didn't realize you were able to go to Denver after all, but yes, it will be at some other time not during the real ptg
14:17:20 <tosky> I'm on vacation between May 8 and May 13 :)
14:17:32 <tellesnobrega> I won't be at the PTG
14:17:35 <tellesnobrega> just the summit
14:18:08 <jeremyfreudberg> got it
14:18:45 <tellesnobrega> but now that you mentioned, I believe that earlier could be great
14:18:57 <tellesnobrega> we get a jump start and start train early
14:19:23 <tellesnobrega> maybe you can come up with some options and we can vote on it
14:20:13 <jeremyfreudberg> earlier would be really good. there are two advantages of May: 1) we can incorporate outcomes from ptg/forum into our planning (but this probably won't be significant) and 2) I'm much less busy in May and will have more time to devote to it
14:20:20 <jeremyfreudberg> i think you are right, i'll make a poll
14:21:29 <tellesnobrega> awesome
14:21:50 <jeremyfreudberg> that's it for my topics, really
14:21:53 <jeremyfreudberg> #topic Open Discussion
14:22:54 <jeremyfreudberg> anybody have any points?
14:23:19 <tosky> we have the shortest review queue ever - just a reminder about the 3 sahara-tests patches
14:23:48 <tosky> without this one, we can't merge anything else on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/640101/
14:24:07 <tosky> that reminds me: what do we want to do about pike?
14:24:17 <tosky> it will switch soon to Extended Maintenance
14:25:50 <jeremyfreudberg> can you elaborate? what are our choices?
14:26:18 <tosky> let me quote fungi's answer when I asked yesterday, even if he hinted about rechecking the rules
14:26:36 <tosky> "<fungi> tosky: it's up to the ptl to decide whether to have the core reviewers for the project continue maintenance, hand over maintenance to an extended maintenance team, or close down the branch for further development entirely"
14:28:00 <jeremyfreudberg> i don't really mind keeping it open
14:28:08 <jeremyfreudberg> but i don't feel particularly strongly either
14:28:46 <fungi> please don't take my word for it. the official resolution is https://governance.openstack.org/tc/resolutions/20180301-stable-branch-eol.html
14:28:54 <tosky> I guess we can see the general trend
14:29:21 <jeremyfreudberg> i'll read through that
14:29:28 <fungi> i was merely summarizing
14:29:34 <fungi> oh, i should have tagged that, sorry
14:29:41 <fungi> #link https://governance.openstack.org/tc/resolutions/20180301-stable-branch-eol.html 2018-03-01 Extended maintenance for stable branches
14:30:22 <tellesnobrega> jeremyfreudberg, might also evaluate the team size, we may not have enough hands to keep it open
14:30:25 <tellesnobrega> but lets see
14:30:35 <tosky> thanks fungi - I used your words as a starting point for the discussion
14:30:38 <jeremyfreudberg> yes, we'll see
14:30:52 <tosky> I guess we can check the general trend, if any
14:31:16 <jeremyfreudberg> yup
14:31:21 <jeremyfreudberg> ok - anything else for today?
14:31:37 <tellesnobrega> not from me
14:32:07 <tosky> nothing from me
14:32:28 <jeremyfreudberg> ok, good
14:32:30 <jeremyfreudberg> thanks all
14:32:37 <jeremyfreudberg> same time next week o/
14:32:40 <tosky> o/
14:32:55 <tellesnobrega> see you
14:32:58 <jeremyfreudberg> #endmeeting