14:00:41 <jeremyfreudberg> #startmeeting sahara
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14:00:45 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'sahara'
14:01:01 <tellesnobrega> o/
14:01:28 <tellesnobrega> tosky probably won't be joining today
14:01:30 <tellesnobrega> he is on PTO
14:01:47 <jeremyfreudberg> yep
14:02:16 <jeremyfreudberg> #topic News/Updates
14:02:42 <tellesnobrega> nothing new on my side, still not doing much work on sahara lately
14:02:46 <tosky> o/
14:02:55 <jeremyfreudberg> hi tosky
14:03:21 <tosky> (public holiday here, but I'm unsurprisingly using my computer right now)
14:05:22 <jeremyfreudberg> i've been busy with non-sahara (and non-openstack) things, not much to report either. i was keeping an eye on the ipv6 goal (offering the sahara perspective as i did for previously proposed goals)
14:05:26 <jeremyfreudberg> i also did https://review.opendev.org/#/c/655527/ to clean up our repo descriptions (interestingly enough the change has only made it to github so far, not to opendev.org)
14:05:47 <tosky> I hopefully fixed  most of the opendev references , but I have few questions
14:06:05 <jeremyfreudberg> yes, i saw your sahara-specs question, i'll make it a topic here
14:07:00 <jeremyfreudberg> anyway
14:07:11 <jeremyfreudberg> #topic Virtual PTG (may 6 or 7)
14:07:32 <jeremyfreudberg> i'd still like to have a virtual ptg may 6 or 7
14:07:38 <jeremyfreudberg> people seem to be around https://www.when2meet.com/?7751227-lVJDN
14:07:47 <tellesnobrega> works for me
14:08:12 <jeremyfreudberg> i've forgotten to create the etherpad and stuff but i will do that soon and send to the lst
14:08:17 <jeremyfreudberg> list
14:08:21 <tosky> my schedule changed a bit, so I updated by availability times
14:09:11 <tosky> sorry, but this days intercepts a lot of holidays, vacations or other planned duties
14:10:17 <jeremyfreudberg> in any case, according to a random number generator, i've selected may 6
14:11:06 <jeremyfreudberg> we might as well do 15 utc (the earliest time that we are all available) but i know telles likes to eat his lunch at that time
14:11:40 <tellesnobrega> that is no problem at all
14:11:52 <tellesnobrega> I can eat a bit earlier and stay for the meeting
14:12:10 <tellesnobrega> count me in
14:12:14 <jeremyfreudberg> cool
14:12:20 <jeremyfreudberg> tosky? 15 utc may 6?
14:13:13 <tosky> yes, fine by me
14:13:35 <jeremyfreudberg> cool, i will send an email with the etherpad and such
14:14:11 <jeremyfreudberg> moving on
14:14:16 <jeremyfreudberg> #topic pike-em tag
14:14:31 <jeremyfreudberg> there is this patch to create the pike-em tag: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/652891/
14:14:54 <jeremyfreudberg> not sure why it is failing, but i just wanted to mention it to our release liasion (tosky)
14:15:27 <tosky> oh, another one? Right, I tought that the "create the last pike version" was enough
14:15:42 <tosky> but the tag is a different story
14:16:33 <tosky> uhm, given that the change is managed by the release team, I guess they will probably figure out the reason for the failure
14:16:57 <jeremyfreudberg> yes, i guess the same
14:17:50 <jeremyfreudberg> good
14:18:16 <jeremyfreudberg> #topic gitdev migration
14:18:30 <jeremyfreudberg> tosky raised some points about changing some links to gitdev
14:18:34 <jeremyfreudberg> he can fill us in some more
14:19:42 <tosky> gitea migration :)
14:19:55 <jeremyfreudberg> ah, right
14:20:02 <jeremyfreudberg> mushing my words together
14:20:04 <jeremyfreudberg> opendev, gitea
14:21:23 <tosky> the status is: all the links have been fixed in master; there is just an open follow-up for sahara to fix few addresses
14:21:29 <tosky> (let me find the link)
14:22:18 <tosky> https://review.opendev.org/654619
14:22:48 <jeremyfreudberg> i mean the other one, your sahara-specs question
14:22:52 <tosky> regarding the idea of backporting the changes, I sent few backports for the plugin repositories, but then I asked -infra, and the idea is that it's not worth doing it
14:23:08 <tosky> the sahara-spec question is the *last* question of the series :)
14:23:52 <tosky> -infra answer about the backports: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-infra/%23openstack-infra.2019-04-22.log.html#t2019-04-22T16:31:03
14:24:29 <tosky> so up to you: should I abandon the stein backports, or should we backport everything (so also the other repositories) back to stein?
14:24:40 <tosky> about sahara-spec
14:24:54 <tosky> sahara-specs*
14:25:32 <tosky> I sent out an initial patch to replace git.openstack.org with opendev.org, but I may also fix few review.openstack.org->review.opendev.org references
14:25:36 <tosky> see https://review.opendev.org/#/c/655115/
14:26:00 <jeremyfreudberg> if it's all just doc/readme stuff then it's not really necessary
14:26:19 <jeremyfreudberg> at least for the stable branches and old specs, the churn doesn't seem worth it
14:26:20 <tosky> the question is: should we go back and fix the old specs? If so, we should probably resurrect also https://review.opendev.org/#/c/568119/, where the link was really broken iirc (or anyway with a redirect which may go away at some point)
14:26:47 <jeremyfreudberg> i remember someone saying that the redirects will stay in place on the order of years
14:26:53 <jeremyfreudberg> but it's true, redirects aren't forever
14:27:26 <jeremyfreudberg> but we also assume it's easy enough for people to understand the meaning of dead link and know how to reconstruct it for whatever new thing is out there
14:30:07 <tosky> so... :)
14:31:05 <jeremyfreudberg> i'm in favor of https://review.opendev.org/#/c/654619/ certainly
14:31:11 <jeremyfreudberg> might as well fix it on the new stuff, for the future
14:31:17 <jeremyfreudberg> stable branches and old specs -- meh
14:31:28 <tellesnobrega> that is my thought as well
14:32:20 <tosky> okidoki; I will drop the stein backports of the opendev fixes, and update the sahara-specs review
14:32:33 <jeremyfreudberg> cool
14:33:14 <tosky> oh, sorry, I misread
14:33:40 <tosky> I guess I need to also drop the sahara-specs review
14:33:49 <jeremyfreudberg> yes
14:34:31 <jeremyfreudberg> ok -- anything else for today?
14:34:39 <tellesnobrega> not from me
14:36:32 <jeremyfreudberg> tosky? anything else?
14:36:36 <tosky> not from me
14:36:42 <jeremyfreudberg> ok, lets close
14:36:45 <jeremyfreudberg> bye all
14:36:48 <jeremyfreudberg> thank you
14:36:48 <tosky> bye o/
14:37:33 <jeremyfreudberg> #endmeeting