14:00:17 <jeremyfreudberg> #startmeeting sahara
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14:00:21 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'sahara'
14:00:27 <jeremyfreudberg> o/
14:00:43 <tellesnobrega> o/
14:02:06 <jeremyfreudberg> tosky?
14:02:16 <tosky> hi
14:02:22 <jeremyfreudberg> #topic news/updates
14:02:46 <tellesnobrega> nothing new on my side, trying to work on some sahara bugs on cdh and mapr, but no success
14:03:38 <jeremyfreudberg> tellesnobrega, interesting
14:04:10 <tellesnobrega> the no success part is not sahara itself
14:04:27 <tellesnobrega> I'm failing to deploy env to test it out
14:04:56 <jeremyfreudberg> not much to say on my end this time. but i'd like to personally get something (anything) done before train-2
14:06:11 <tosky> I may have soon (maybe before train-3) a patch which finally allows you to setup a proxy server for yum/apt
14:06:25 <jeremyfreudberg> oooh
14:07:13 <jeremyfreudberg> #topic shanghai
14:08:02 <jeremyfreudberg> just a quick one, i assume the answer is no, but is anyone already intending to go to shanghai for project update / project onboarding / ptg ? (i've been getting emails asking me as ptl to indicate attendance or not)
14:08:39 <tellesnobrega> I won't make it to shanghai sadly
14:08:43 <tosky> most likely no
14:08:50 <jeremyfreudberg> cool
14:09:00 <jeremyfreudberg> my attendance is still up in the air but most likely also no
14:09:40 <jeremyfreudberg> #topic open discussion
14:10:08 <jeremyfreudberg> i thought this was interesting: https://vision.cloudera.com/our-commitment-to-open-source-software/
14:10:15 <jeremyfreudberg> the lastest development in the cloudera saga
14:10:33 <jeremyfreudberg> sounds like eventually there will be no split between cloudera express and cloudera enterprise, if i understand it
14:10:53 <jeremyfreudberg> probably a bit too late to save the company though (and only fixing one of their many problems)
14:10:56 <tosky> oh, have the merged company retain the name Cloudera only?
14:11:09 <tellesnobrega> I will read it later but if that is true, it is an awesome idea
14:11:32 <jeremyfreudberg> tosky, i think the hortonworks brand and products still exist for now
14:11:44 <tosky> "we plan to consolidate and transition the small number of projects currently licensed by Cloudera under closed source licenses to open source licenses."
14:11:48 <tosky> that's pretty clear
14:11:54 <tosky> they include Cloudera Manager in the list
14:12:02 <tellesnobrega> awesome
14:12:17 <jeremyfreudberg> we'll see how it goes
14:12:43 <tosky> "We considered a modified open source license, but determined that it was important that we use community-accepted licenses." disaster averted!
14:13:15 <tellesnobrega> for sure
14:13:51 <tosky> interesting, they mention Red Hat - but that's probably not for this location
14:14:15 <tosky> talking about sahara, we have a bunch of open patches about the unit tests and the python 3 goal
14:15:29 <jeremyfreudberg> tosky, do you agree that it's worthwhile to update the commit message, as indicated by a stray reviewer?
14:15:49 <tellesnobrega> tosky, I was reading their subscription plan and thinking, I've seen this before, that's how we do it, and then they bring up red hat as an example of why they chose this model
14:16:26 <jeremyfreudberg> tellesnobrega, yup, there is a (paywalled) article about this where one of their executives talks all about how red hat is the inspiration and the only way forward
14:16:40 <tosky> jeremyfreudberg: well, I think I did the same in the past; that's the problem with automated changes which ends up fixing the last bits
14:17:07 <tosky> I can volunteer to fix the commit messages
14:17:13 <jeremyfreudberg> tosky, cool
14:17:34 <jeremyfreudberg> personally it doesn't bother me too much to have the wrong message but we might as well make it nice
14:18:16 <tosky> but at least https://review.opendev.org/667319 and https://review.opendev.org/669927 should be fine :)
14:20:24 <jeremyfreudberg> yup
14:20:41 <jeremyfreudberg> anything else?
14:21:22 <tellesnobrega> not from me
14:23:05 <jeremyfreudberg> my thought is that, if i actually have time, my priority will be sahara-image-pack (vanilla, storm). anybody object to that as my priority?
14:23:30 <jeremyfreudberg> i doubt i will get much done this cycle, but at least deprecating SIE will be nice
14:23:41 <tellesnobrega> not at all
14:23:48 <tellesnobrega> storm should be easy enough
14:23:51 <tellesnobrega> I would start there
14:24:02 <tellesnobrega> vanilla might get a little messier
14:24:21 <tellesnobrega> storm is very clean and simple, so should be its image pack script
14:24:51 <tosky> no objections at all from me
14:25:14 <jeremyfreudberg> cool
14:25:21 <jeremyfreudberg> i'll see how it goes
14:25:26 <jeremyfreudberg> that's it from me today
14:28:56 <jeremyfreudberg> alright, thanks all
14:29:03 <tellesnobrega> thanks :)
14:29:07 <tosky> thanks!
14:29:12 <jeremyfreudberg> #endmeeting