21:33:22 #startmeeting scientific-sig 21:33:23 Meeting started Tue May 1 21:33:22 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oneswig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:33:24 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 21:33:26 The meeting name has been set to 'scientific_sig' 21:33:34 sorry y'all 21:33:37 fat fingers 21:33:42 Thanks fungi 21:33:46 np 21:34:05 Although how you came by that, I have no idea. 21:34:25 OK, where were we? 21:34:30 still had the channel up after the infra meeting 21:34:33 still on topic 1 :) 21:34:53 (that said, I must go, will join on my phone) 21:34:54 and noticed you seemed to be conducting a meeting with the channel topic still at its (idle) default ;) 21:35:22 omniscience, it's the only rational explanation... 21:35:29 Oh good, so I'm not late :-D 21:35:39 Morning b1airo 21:36:00 technically we only just got started as earlier I stqrted the meeting instead of starting it. 21:36:26 * oneswig is in fine form tonight 21:36:54 Heh 21:38:01 b1airo: only points of note were an etherpad to gather activities (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/scientific-sig-report-queens) and jmlowe has offered to help book us an evening out for some beer and (perchance) a barbecue in Vancouver. Similar sort of informal deal to the one in Austin 21:38:28 Oh, awesome. Thanks jmlowe 21:38:45 seconded :-) 21:38:47 I'll take a crack at it 21:38:54 #topic Scientific OpenStack Constellations 21:39:35 A constellation is a concept being worked on in the TC of a working collection of OpenStack services for meeting a particular use case 21:39:53 eg, containerised workloads or scientific compute 21:40:14 Generalisations are not easy across the broad range of what SIG members do 21:41:00 However, johnthetubaguy has made a bold start for the scientific use case based on our experiences over here. 21:41:28 #link scientific constellation - wip https://review.openstack.org/#/c/565466/ 21:41:38 oneswig: reminder we also need to report back to the UC 21:42:11 Yeah I like John's drafting, reviewed it last night after seeing the ML thread 21:42:32 thanks b1airo, sure that will help 21:42:46 So if I understand this correctly I have a group wanting to host their science gateways on kubernetes, so magnum, barbican, nova, neutron, lbaasv2, octavia, cinder, glance, keystone would be that constellation 21:43:29 jmlowe: I think so, plus some of the glue to make the whole thing coherent. 21:43:47 Kayobe? :-) 21:45:13 Certainly a possibility! I've got something in mind to set up something like third-party CI for a couple of constellation deployments, as a summer student project, to ensure they stay valid. It's a snapshot otherwise. 21:46:57 It's a star like any other now - https://github.com/openstack/kayobe 21:47:21 Boom tish! 21:47:46 absolutely! Mark's done a stellar job on it. 21:47:52 (no pun intended0 21:47:54 Sorry, I might be manically tired - pulled a late one 21:48:47 No problem. We don't have a lot to cover left over. 21:49:02 #topic Ironic RFE specs update 21:49:34 I checked on these two but I don't think there is anything new to report as of this morning. No matter. 21:50:31 I'm hoping to help the specs through some early iterations, in due course. 21:51:11 #topic AOB 21:52:09 Over here I'm hoping to wrap up the Ceph RDMA investigations I've been doing recently. One of our systems got an overhaul and it appears this turned off the controlling of cstates. 21:52:40 Even with rados bench working it as hard as possible, the cores are only 10% in C0 and the rest of the time will be revving up and down to C6. 21:52:43 Cstates or Pstates? 21:52:56 Ah right 21:53:02 That's not ideal for a Ceph server 21:53:18 (at least not when it's performance is being measured) 21:53:50 Yeah, see a post from me a couple of years back showing this impact on a buggy tuned throughout-performance profile 21:54:05 Metro with a company that does fpga on ssd 21:54:16 So I have some low-hanging fruit to gather on that. But the RDMA work continues to get interesting, I'm still working on it. 21:54:21 latency-performance was over 30% better 21:54:37 Wonder if it could be useful in this case 21:54:37 Thanks b1airo, noted. 21:55:17 Also an interesting thread about Pstates on Skylake just started yesterday 21:55:33 martial_: FPGA on SSD? Interesting combination. Recent graphs I've seen of Crosspoint suggest it would go nicely in that mode. 21:55:52 b1airo: on the OpenStack ML? 21:56:36 Ceph users list 21:56:42 P 21:56:46 Wido 21:56:57 I can try to get them to talk to us if interested 21:57:08 I think they were at sc17 21:59:24 #link Ceph-users and frequency scaling http://lists.ceph.com/pipermail/ceph-users-ceph.com/2018-May/026327.html 21:59:42 Looks interesting b1airo, I'll follow it through 22:00:18 martial_: Think that might be a good discussion - but I'm not sure who their customers might be 22:00:26 They can be the judge of that I guess! 22:00:33 Time's up, thanks all 22:00:46 #endmeeting