20:59:47 <martial> #startmeeting Scientific-SIG 20:59:48 <openstack> Meeting started Tue Jun 11 20:59:47 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is martial. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:59:49 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 20:59:51 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'scientific_sig' 21:00:03 <martial> Hello friends :) 21:00:08 <trandles> Hi martial 21:00:54 <martial> the topics of today's meeting are not posted (apologies) but were discussed in our Slack 21:01:30 <martial> to cover: 1) SC BoF submission 2) Private cloud advocacy paper for research computing - resource gathering 3) Shanghai OI summit 21:01:41 <martial> #topic SC BoF submission 21:02:48 <martial> so to remind people that the Scientific SIG Slack 21:02:54 <martial> is at https://join.slack.com/t/os-scientific-sig/shared_invite/enQtNjUwNzU3MTUxNjAyLWU4ZWM2YzU3ZmMzYmZhYmMwYWRiODFiZWM4NTBjZDkyNjUyYzA0MGYwNDZhZWY4ZTY1NmFiNWVlY2U3ZDc1MzI 21:03:14 <martial> Also Super Computing 2019 Birds of a Feather submissions are open 21:03:40 <martial> I believe Mike or Robert were offering to work on the submission this year? 21:04:56 <martial> not sure I see either of them just now 21:05:06 <martial> ought to follow offline then 21:05:23 <janders> I've attended a few ISCs but no SCs 21:05:30 <janders> what's typical SIG presence at the SC? 21:05:52 <martial> Last year we had a succesful "Cloud Infrastructure Solutions To Run HPC Workloads" 21:06:09 <martial> #link https://sc18.supercomputing.org/presentation/?id=bof113&sess=sess374 21:06:22 <martial> janders: will be at ISC next week myself 21:06:43 <martial> members of the Scientific SIG are often present at SC 21:07:23 <martial> and we try to get a BoF session to discuss capabilities and help user talk to us about how we can help them 21:07:47 <janders> makes perfect sense 21:07:58 <martial> think of the "HPC using OpenStack" panel we try to offer at the different Open Infrastructure summits we attend 21:08:54 <martial> for people that are going to be at SC19, we invite you to reach out to us (slack or email might be easier) 21:09:11 <martial> to discuss attendance and possible participation at the panel 21:09:42 <martial> trandles: coming this year? 21:09:53 <trandles> I'll be at SC19 21:09:58 <martial> cool 21:09:58 <janders> conviniently, first time for a long time, it seems there isn't a schedule clash between SC19 and the OI Summit Shanghai 21:10:03 <trandles> Probably on the full technical program 21:11:05 <martial> I have reached out to Suse and asked about Nicolas Bock 21:11:17 <martial> doing a quick follow up on this as I think about it 21:11:17 <trandles> I can ping him too (he's local to me) 21:11:27 <martial> please do 21:12:24 <martial> with that, that is the status of the SC19 BoF; was hoping to see/talk to Mike/Bob 21:13:04 <martial> #topic Private cloud advocacy paper for research computing 21:14:10 <martial> This is a call for participation to help your fellow stackers (and other private cloud users, including HPC) to explain the benefits (in value and cost) of a private dedicated cloud vs using public cloud 21:14:25 <martial> we discussed this in particular during the Denver PTG 21:15:19 <martial> we have a "hybrid-cloud-wp" channel on slack for people willing to participate 21:15:40 <martial> the hope is to work toward a new edition of the SC book we did in the past 21:15:45 <martial> and integrate it in there 21:15:56 <martial> as well as update it every so often (6 months or so) 21:16:38 <martial> if interested to participate, please reach out (email, slack) 21:16:47 <martial> any input on this? 21:17:50 <janders> I'd be interested in contributing to the new SC book 21:18:08 <janders> probably not so much to the hybrid part - it's still very early days for us in that regard 21:18:47 <martial> sounds like a plan; Stig was coordinating the previous iteration, so it would be good to work with him here as well 21:19:10 <martial> we have to check with the foundation for deadlines imposed on us related to its publication 21:19:50 <martial> as such, another thread to follow up on soon 21:20:25 <martial> Last topic of the day? 21:20:59 <martial> #topic Shanghai Open Infrastructure Summit 21:21:42 <martial> Deadline is July 2nd 21:21:46 <martial> #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/shanghai-2019/ 21:22:37 <janders> thank you for the reminder martial 21:23:01 <martial> speaking of our usual "HPC on OpenStack", it would be good to know who is attending (same as SC) to coordinate a panel there as well 21:23:22 <janders> do you know who's reviewing / can provide feedback on submissions from the SIG? 21:23:42 <martial> We will also have the Scientific SIG meeting + lighting talks 21:23:42 <janders> for Denver, it was Blair and Tim Bell 21:24:22 <martial> I do not know; I tried to apply but I got the email from the digest AFTER the deadline 21:25:03 <janders> I would be happy to contribute to the panel 21:25:28 <martial> I will start a thread shortly to discuss this 21:25:43 <martial> I do not know that all our usual panelists can attend 21:27:01 <trandles> Sorry, on another conference call at the same time so attempting to split my attention. I'll email Nick Bock. I'm interested in contributing to the book too 21:27:15 <martial> Thanks Tim 21:27:37 <martial> Thanks Jacob 21:27:56 <janders> idea regarding the panel 21:28:00 <trandles> I will not be in Shanghai 21:28:04 <janders> in Shanghai 21:28:21 <janders> for those who are not allowed to go, what do you think about remoting people in with video? 21:28:55 <trandles> Even video would be tough for me, notwithstanding the timezone issue ;) 21:29:33 <janders> my specific concern was possible issues with travel approvals for those of us working for federal govt agencies (US, AUS, ...) 21:29:34 <martial> I can send you a list of the non live questions and we can do a "best of Tim" 21:29:57 <janders> but yeah timezone is a valid concern, too 21:30:21 <martial> I know this one is going to be a little more difficult 21:30:33 <martial> for those concerns indeed 21:30:55 <janders> I think Shanghai is a great venue but political climate is getting more and more uncertain - we'll see where things are later in the year 21:31:25 <martial> what I can offer to do is email a few people and invite them to the slack channel I am creating right now for this topuc 21:32:24 <martial> done ois-shangai2019 21:32:45 <martial> need to coordinate within the next 10 days for submission in time 21:33:46 <janders> agreed 21:34:06 <janders> I've got an idea, can draft an abstract but it would be very helpful to know who to reach out to for feedback 21:34:36 <janders> I shall ask in the slack channel 21:34:42 <martial> join the slack channel, we will work with you there? 21:34:48 <martial> also created sc19 in slack as well 21:35:45 <martial> with that we are moving into the freeform / adlib section of the meeting 21:35:48 <martial> #topic AOB 21:38:04 <janders> I don't have anything more for discussion today 21:38:25 <martial> trandles 21:38:27 <martial> ? 21:38:33 <trandles> nope 21:38:55 <martial> then, thank you gentlemen for your time and I am giving you back 20 minutes :) 21:39:02 <trandles> \o/ 21:39:11 <trandles> Thanks martial, janders 21:39:19 <martial> #endmeeting