21:00:45 #startmeeting scientific-sig 21:00:46 Meeting started Tue Mar 31 21:00:45 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oneswig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:00:47 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 21:00:49 The meeting name has been set to 'scientific_sig' 21:00:57 ahoy 21:01:57 g'day Oneswig 21:02:12 Hey janders, what's new? 21:02:16 all well here 21:02:42 okay so super confused ... the meeting was one hour ... did you guys just change DST again? :) 21:03:15 oh man, what happened? 21:03:33 My calendar (I think) is set in UTC... 21:03:43 doing okay.. we're not far from being under house arrest here in AUS 21:03:56 pulling my hair out trying to get some groceries online 21:04:21 #chair martial 21:04:22 Current chairs: martial oneswig 21:05:38 yeah VA is "if you are not shopping or working stay home" (wear a mask if you are out ... nowhere to be found of course) 21:05:49 yes, unusual times. I think my family has found some level of equilibrium, although not always... 21:06:02 schools have been closed for a few weeks and until the end of the school year (at least) 21:06:38 martial: is DataMachines work affected by everyone being at home? 21:06:51 nope I am kept crazy busy :) 21:07:26 how about the rest of you? 21:07:47 Seems a very popular time for people to explore remote training workshops. We are getting the hang of it. 21:08:21 my team is all over AUS so remote work didnt change things much in regards to how we work 21:08:31 we did however get nearly locked out of our shared DC 21:08:36 which is creating interesting challenges 21:09:13 janders: had a question with your name on it. What's the cleanest way of deploying an Ironic node without filling an entire disk with the root fs? 21:09:56 hmm... good one :) 21:10:25 so you want to partition the drive but leave empty space on the disk past the boot partition right? 21:11:00 They are Dell nodes with a PERC. I could maybe make a 1-node RAID group, and split it into virtual devices? Not sure if it does that. 21:11:20 Otherwise I was wondering about making a massive swap partition, and then not using it for swap 21:11:31 Or the whole-disk-image stuff, maybe. 21:12:10 I expect there's a proper way to do this... 21:16:03 I haven't done this but I think if 21:16:14 1) boot image is smaller than disk and 21:16:31 2) cloud-init is configured not to scale up the filesystem 21:16:36 it might just work 21:17:10 I remember having a reverse problem with VMs back in the day where resizing fs wasn't done automatically which users were finding annoying 21:17:38 though i am unsure if fs resize after deploying the image is done by cloud-init (like in VMs) or maybe in ironic instances IPA does that? 21:17:40 Thanks janders, sounds sensible. The issue might be that I end up with a 2G root filesystem (or something crazy like that) 21:18:09 I think the partitioning happens first, and fs resize fills the partition. 21:18:10 right! valid concern 21:18:19 so I must control the partitioning. 21:18:57 Brings us round to an agenda item 21:19:13 #topic OpenStack Bare Metal SIG - white paper 21:19:35 janders: I think you're already fully signed up to this, right? 21:19:46 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1355903 21:19:47 bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1355903 in diskimage-builder "[RFE] overcloud images have a single partition. Security requirement request for multiple partition options in the RHEL Cloud image" [Urgent,Closed: errata] - Assigned to yroblamo 21:19:58 this may have some leads on "advanced partitioning" 21:20:11 I've never used this though, just heard about it doing something similar 21:20:18 oneswig: yes 21:20:28 I'm already working on it 21:21:03 Nice - when does it need doing for? 21:21:40 I wasn't told - though my gut feel is it has something to do with OpenDev in Vancouver (if OpenDev happens that is) 21:23:48 That would make sense. If it gets printed, it would need some weeks before then for layout and so on. 21:24:12 martial: is the bare metal sig something Data Machines is involved in? 21:24:39 not really 21:25:02 I am not sure who in the company would be the best POC for it too 21:25:36 a lot of our work has us do K8s lately 21:26:02 ... but not on bare metal ... 21:26:39 but not on OpenStack :) 21:26:59 although we are looking into an undercloud based on OpenStack 21:27:25 but this is a lot of Ansible scripts to deploy on top 21:27:48 Right, sounds somewhat familiar. 21:28:00 halo! 21:28:08 hey b1airo, g'day 21:28:14 #chair b1airo 21:28:15 Current chairs: b1airo martial oneswig 21:28:18 welcome Blair 21:28:27 How's NZ? 21:28:27 hope you're well! apologies for being late - bouncing between meetings 21:28:32 quiet! 21:28:49 np, we've just been talking bare metal with janders 21:29:01 anything new on that front? 21:29:43 Had a request for participation from the SIG in a bare metal white paper 21:30:20 I'll take the request to the Slack channel later to widen circulation. Looking for user stories and motivations for Ironic 21:31:08 i need to go back to the ISC committee and confirm or not willingness to participate - in one form or another 21:31:11 We've been working recently on a study on the security mitigations for bare metal compute. I'm hoping we can share it as part of this effort. 21:31:39 b1airo: good point, thanks for the reminder. I'm assuming they'll can it, but good to do that anyway. 21:34:08 I'm not sure you can fly anywhere from NZ right now can you? 21:35:34 no, not even if i wanted to ignore my workplace 21:37:25 honestly not sure if ISC will happen for me either 21:37:51 Seems highly unlikely 21:38:54 yeah my guess would be that it will either move online or won't happen 21:39:19 the question might be whether we'd still want to hold the BoF if they move to an online forum 21:39:33 allright... I was wondering why it suddenly got so quiet and it was just me getting booted out 21:39:38 seems doable 21:39:43 That seems the likely outcome 21:40:10 oops seems like I missed a key part 21:40:25 does it seem like OpenDev will be moved to online format? 21:40:41 I think that already happened 21:41:29 correct - just read the notification on the website 21:41:41 good move 21:41:50 I'd be surprised if ISC20 doesn't follow suit 21:42:19 We were wondering that. 21:42:38 I don't think anyone from Australia would be able to attend 21:42:42 last I checked they still had cancelation policy :) 21:42:55 (ie still happening in person) 21:45:51 Anyone else set up folding@home? There's quite a few people getting on board with that 21:47:55 for Corona? 21:48:23 yes, apparently 21:50:02 yes it is sweet ... kind of wish they had alternate CPU versions 21:50:14 like a Jetson Nano :) 21:50:48 Yes that would be nice! 21:52:23 and GPU optimized 21:52:38 isn't that what containers are for ? :-P 21:53:14 not sure if I can run an x86_64 on an arm64 21:55:40 https://foldingathome.org/alternative-downloads/ 21:55:43 nope 21:57:24 Nearly at the hour folks 21:57:31 https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Sq2eDVc5/ 21:57:45 (sorry) 21:57:49 that on the other hand is interesting "The Folding@home team know about the work unit shortage. 21:57:49 It's happening because of an approximately 20x increase in demand." 21:58:19 stay safe - and we'll chat again next week 21:58:41 Same to you! 21:59:07 bye :) 21:59:21 until next time 21:59:24 #endmeeting