21:00:41 #startmeeting scientific-sig 21:00:41 Meeting started Tue Mar 15 21:00:41 2022 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oneswig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:00:41 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 21:00:41 The meeting name has been set to 'scientific_sig' 21:01:31 greetings 21:02:10 julianp: hi there 21:02:19 Hi oneswig! 21:02:36 How is everyone? 21:02:45 Hello! I've been neglectful recently (year end approaching). 21:03:07 Is work busy? 21:03:22 All well over here. We've been working on completing some federated research cloud projects 21:04:02 It's always nice to talk about these things, and great fun to do them. A bit harder to finish them though, huh? 21:04:19 Heh. Yeah, I know what you mean. 21:04:19 How's things with you? 21:04:38 Not bad at all. 21:05:05 Are your projects all around Europe? 21:05:38 The majority are 21:06:01 We are lucky to work in a lot of far-off places too, mostly nice and sunny ones 21:06:15 Oh my. Yes that's not bad at all. 21:06:54 I'm not sure how that worked out that many of our clients also happen to be in holiday destinations :-) 21:07:27 Let me know when you find out the secret. 21:07:42 How's Arizona, speaking of sunny places? 21:08:10 Very sunny! And getting warm. It's spring break here, so most of the students are off somewhere. 21:08:49 On their European tour perhaps. We were in Portugal last month and there were quite a few American students in town 21:09:37 Huh. Yeah, that could well be. I can only imagine how many university students there are around the world right now. 21:09:57 (Traveling) 21:10:30 Do you have a long lead time on your research cloud engagements? 21:11:46 I don't think there's a consistent pattern. Sometimes we get asked to intervene in a down system that day. Sometimes it can take months and months to get something started. 21:12:08 Somewhere in between the extremes is good, of course. 21:12:33 Yes, I imagine that helps quite a bit with scheduling. 21:13:05 How's the uptake for Exosphere going - are you busy with that? 21:13:40 Yeah, I am now full-time on Exosphere. We have a few contractors. Starting to think about sustainability models. 21:14:14 George Mason University have been evaluating it, and they like it a lot so far. 21:15:02 Well, not 'starting to think', but more 'starting to put in place'... 21:15:06 Nice work julianp 21:15:34 Thank you oneswig! I can't believe it's been over 4 years since our extremely rough prototype. 21:16:05 I want to do a time-travel style retrospective, showing how it's evolved over the years. 21:16:38 That's quite a journey, no doubt 21:17:12 Indeed. Right now we're focused on making sure that researchers LOVE the Jetstream2 experience. 21:17:32 I was wondering if we should attempt to bag a slot for the PTG - would be good to share updates 21:17:40 Are you planning to go to Berlin in June? 21:18:09 Yes, I'm hoping to get there. 21:18:15 You? 21:19:01 Yes, I'll be there, circumstances permitting. 21:19:28 Fingers crossed. I haven't been to a conference in person... in a while. 21:19:35 I haven't seen anything about booking sessions for the Summit, don't want to miss that opportunity 21:20:03 Yeah, good point. 21:22:09 Do you know the breakdown of novice/intermediate/power users of the research clouds you work with? 21:22:53 For the users, no. In most cases we know the admins, they know the users. Occasionally we get the war stories :-) 21:22:59 Heh. I bet. 21:24:24 I'll ask about space for a session at Berlin. 21:25:13 cmart & I gave a lecture to some masters students learning distributed computing. They are encouraged (strongly) to use the OpenStack API and programmatic methods to manage their resources (as opposed to point-and-click). It has always been a goal for me to enable people to 'level up' from UI to 'programmable infrastructure', and I'm toying with some ideas. 21:26:24 It's really cool what can be done via the API. 21:26:31 I'm already looking forward to Berlin - I suspect that enthusiasm will result in subsidising an evening beer/dinner 21:26:43 Indeed! 21:29:20 I have never visited Germany, and I even have some family there. May try to combine it with catching the German MotoGP race! 21:30:40 Oh nan - that would be fantastic. 21:30:47 (man!) 21:31:26 I've mailed about getting a SIG forum on the summit schedule. 21:31:41 Excellent. 21:33:11 OK, should we stop there? I have a couple of loose ends to tie off before turning in. 21:33:18 Yes, was about to suggest that. 21:33:40 Well, I'm glad to hear you may be at the conference in Berlin. 21:34:09 Catch you next time! 👋 21:34:21 Same to you julianp, already looking forward to it 21:34:24 #endmeeting