16:02:14 <gtema> #startmeeting sdk 16:02:14 <opendevmeet> Meeting started Thu Sep 16 16:02:14 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gtema. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:02:14 <opendevmeet> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:02:14 <opendevmeet> The meeting name has been set to 'sdk' 16:02:32 <diablo_rojo> nailed it :) 16:03:04 <diablo_rojo> So what needs to happen then? 16:03:26 <gtema> well, contribution needs to happen ;-) 16:03:50 <gtema> I mean we need to bring r1 in shape and merge it to master 16:04:01 <diablo_rojo> Okay so what does that entail exactly? 16:04:18 <gtema> completing cleanup of the cloud layer 16:04:38 <gtema> there I also started generalizing metadata and quotasets for the resources 16:05:09 <gtema> I want also to do same for quota and limits and create I/F for querying quotas of all services 16:05:29 <gtema> so that SDK tries all possible methods to get to quota/limit/quotaset/etc for the services 16:05:43 <gtema> then CLI can only trigger single function in SDK 16:06:06 <diablo_rojo> Okay. 16:06:22 <gtema> there's also https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstacksdk/+/805851 16:06:34 <gtema> an attempt to change how caching works 16:06:48 <gtema> cause that is also sort of breaking change 16:07:10 <gtema> overall - we have already in r1 some "breaking" changes 16:07:33 <gtema> and I want to complete those before we really do a bang 16:08:14 <gtema> actually with all the students I have figured out that we miss doc in the form "so you want to understand how SDK works?" 16:08:59 <gtema> something really describing principles of resource and proxy, cloud layer, guiidelines, etc 16:09:33 <diablo_rojo> That would be help. 16:09:51 <gtema> yeah, and it would be help if somebody writes such doc ;-) 16:10:41 <diablo_rojo> I am happy to help formulate and review and whatnot. 16:10:56 <gtema> :) 16:11:00 <diablo_rojo> I suppose I could take a stab on it if we did a call at somepoint to go over what all you think should be included. 16:11:30 <gtema> yeah, can be arranged 16:12:38 <gtema> maybe next week if you have time 16:13:26 <diablo_rojo> Yeah next week works for me 16:13:58 <gtema> smth like Thursday same time? Or is it still too early? 16:14:33 <diablo_rojo> Nope! I can do this time next week. 16:14:38 <diablo_rojo> Want me to send a calendar invite? 16:14:48 <gtema> yes, pls 16:16:06 <diablo_rojo> gtema, done! 16:16:12 <gtema> thks a lot 16:16:21 <diablo_rojo> No problem! 16:17:27 <gtema> it's a sad depression overall in OpenStack that I observe with contributions 16:17:34 <diablo_rojo> Oh? 16:18:06 <gtema> na ja, people disappear, activity is also somehow not really great. At least in areas that I watch 16:19:41 <diablo_rojo> Its not the shiny new thing anymore. If its any consolation.. k8s is now in our position as well since everyone has moved off to work on k8s plugins. They don't work on the core kubernetes anymore and they are really hurting for people. 16:20:36 <gtema> yeah, I even read articles like: "well, K8 is hot now, but it also nears some form of maintenance. So what happens next?" 16:21:00 <diablo_rojo> I can't wait for the k8s is dead articles lol 16:21:18 <gtema> :) 16:21:20 <diablo_rojo> Anything else we want to discuss logged? 16:21:29 <diablo_rojo> Well.. officially logged as a meeting? 16:21:32 <diablo_rojo> It all gets logged :) 16:21:33 <gtema> most likely not 16:21:40 <gtema> at least not for me 16:21:43 <opendevreview> Merged openstack/cliff stable/xena: Update .gitreview for stable/xena https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cliff/+/808339 16:21:45 <diablo_rojo> Alright well we were at least a little productive :) 16:21:54 <gtema> :) 16:21:55 <diablo_rojo> I have that patch you linked open and will work on reviewing it. 16:22:01 <opendevreview> Merged openstack/cliff stable/xena: Update TOX_CONSTRAINTS_FILE for stable/xena https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cliff/+/808340 16:22:03 <diablo_rojo> Its quite large :) 16:22:16 <diablo_rojo> (in that it touches lots of files) 16:22:23 <diablo_rojo> Not actually big changes from what I can see. 16:22:36 <gtema> oki. mordred said corvus should also have a look since that is going to affect nodepool 16:22:54 <diablo_rojo> Yeah that makes sense. 16:23:04 <gtema> that's why it is in the nirvana without me merging it in single mode 16:23:15 <gtema> #endmeeting