17:00:25 <lhinds> #startmeeting security
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17:00:30 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'security'
17:00:35 <lhinds> #chair hyakuhei
17:00:36 <openstack> Current chairs: hyakuhei lhinds
17:01:16 <lhinds> hi all, anyone around?
17:02:08 <hyakuhei> o/
17:02:10 <hyakuhei> Whaddup!
17:02:15 <lhinds> hi hyakuhei
17:02:26 <lhinds> michaelxin , trying to think of irc handles
17:02:33 <hyakuhei> heh
17:02:43 <lhinds> who else should we wake up hyakuhei ?
17:02:45 <hyakuhei> tkelsey and capn0day are out I'm sure
17:02:59 <lhinds> summer hols right now I guess
17:03:40 <lhinds> want to drive hyakuhei ?
17:04:17 <lhinds> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-agenda
17:04:19 <hyakuhei> No passengers to drive anywhere :P
17:04:24 <hyakuhei> I guess we could talk to each other
17:04:30 <lhinds> lol, lets go freestyle :)
17:04:47 <lhinds> I guess one I was interested in is the PTG
17:04:57 <hyakuhei> I probably won't make the meeting next week because I'm travelling again
17:05:03 <hyakuhei> I won't make the PTG :(
17:05:19 <lhinds> no worries, I can make next week, I then have 2 weeks off, if you're around then?
17:05:41 <lhinds> second of those I will be back home, so could likely help out there
17:06:46 <hyakuhei> I think I'll be around
17:06:51 <lhinds> cool
17:07:07 <hyakuhei> I noticed there was an OSSN we were getting dinged on
17:07:18 <lhinds> which one is that?
17:07:25 * fungi is curious too
17:07:41 <hyakuhei> I'll check my gmail, one sec
17:07:49 <fungi> (not a passenger, just a hitchhiker)
17:08:13 <hyakuhei> bug 1649333
17:08:59 <lhinds> ohhh, I still don't have access rights.
17:09:07 <lhinds> "Lost something?
17:09:08 <lhinds> This page does not exist, or you may not have permission to see it.
17:09:11 <hyakuhei> Ah ok, I'll seee if I can add you
17:09:17 <hyakuhei> I probably got added directly ?
17:09:44 <fungi> same here
17:09:50 <fungi> no access for me
17:10:12 <fungi> so it's presumably nothing the vmt chucked over the wall ;)
17:10:23 <lhinds> yep
17:10:30 <hyakuhei> Ah my 2FA is bricked.
17:10:33 <hyakuhei> grumble
17:10:41 <fungi> no access for any of us!
17:10:54 <fungi> very secure indeed :D
17:10:59 <hyakuhei> 1649333 that's the right one I'm sure
17:11:23 <hyakuhei> Yeah ok, how annoying, I was supposed to make this happen back in January
17:11:36 <hyakuhei> Right ok, lhinds I'll reply by email and get them to add you
17:11:41 <fungi> feel free to ping/sub me if you need vmt input on it for any reason (once you get access again anyway)
17:11:46 <lhinds> thanks hyakuhei
17:12:15 <lhinds> actually on the topic of OSSN, we only have one pending, which I am working on right now
17:12:22 <lhinds> the other went out last week.
17:12:37 <hyakuhei> well and this one that you can't see :P
17:12:47 <fungi> heh
17:12:48 <lhinds> and that one too!
17:13:06 <fungi> there's work for you, we just can't tell you what it is
17:13:09 <hyakuhei> I've emailed asking to add you
17:13:26 <hyakuhei> You're not on CC because permissions should be controlled through LP really so they can choose to bring you in
17:13:29 <hyakuhei> which I'm sure they will
17:13:40 <lhinds> Coo, thanks hyakuhei . I don't its worth doing Syntribos / Bandit just now..can we chat PTG?
17:13:51 <hyakuhei> Yeah go straight to PTG
17:13:57 <lhinds> #topic PTG
17:14:16 <lhinds> So I have seen the following: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xmOdT6uZ5XqViActr5sBOaz_mEgjKSCY7NEWcAEcT-A/pubhtml?gid=397241312&single=true
17:14:38 <fungi> hopefully that says "draft" somewhere
17:14:58 <fungi> pretty sure i know what that link is anyway, just not in a convenient spot to try and load google docs
17:15:36 <lhinds> do you know how confirm the room need fungi (security has a `?`)
17:15:49 <fungi> diablo_rojo: ^
17:16:03 <fungi> she should be our conduit to all things ptg, i believe
17:16:27 <lhinds> thx fungi , hyakuhei was anything firmed up around room sharing with barbican?
17:16:44 <fungi> worst case, e-mail knelson@o.o or follow up to the -dev ml thread from a while back discussing team needs for the ptg (i can't look it up easily at the moment)
17:16:56 <hyakuhei> Hmmm
17:17:07 <hyakuhei> Emailing Kendall CC: lhinds now
17:17:09 <lhinds> thx, fungi - will drop an email out.
17:17:37 <hyakuhei> done.
17:18:02 <lhinds> thanks hyakuhei
17:18:25 <fungi> fwiw there's a ? next to infra/qa for mon-tue as well last i looked, i expect that's just leaving things open for a last-minute shuffle should something come up with the room sizes
17:18:33 <hyakuhei> lhinds I need to drop early, anything we can't discuss by email ?
17:18:58 <lhinds> sure, thats fine hyakuhei , maybe will give you a bell when you get back before I go away
17:19:02 <diablo_rojo> lhinds, fungi I'm here :)
17:19:09 <lhinds> hi diablo_rojo
17:19:10 <hyakuhei> Good plan, I'm stateside Sunday-Sunday
17:19:13 <diablo_rojo> Hello :)
17:19:14 <fungi> ooh, a diablo_rojo sighting
17:19:17 <hyakuhei> Cheers all :)
17:19:19 <lhinds> we were just going over PTG room planning
17:19:37 <diablo_rojo> lhinds, you for sure want Mon-Tues ?
17:19:37 <hyakuhei> bye diablo_rojo (emailed you but I'll defer to whatever lhinds says)
17:19:39 <lhinds> This is for the security project & barbican
17:20:12 <diablo_rojo> You want the two of them to share a room?
17:20:32 <diablo_rojo> Or Security M-Tues and Barbican Wed-Thurs
17:20:34 <fungi> diablo_rojo: infra for sure wants m-f too while you're updating your notes, fwiw (though pretty sure i said that on the ml thread a month or two back)
17:20:34 <diablo_rojo> >
17:20:36 <lhinds> diablo_rojo: yes, I think so..but I guess I may need to clarify with them first.
17:21:05 <diablo_rojo> lhinds, if you want to share I will put both of you together for Wed & Thursday
17:21:13 <diablo_rojo> fungi, got it :)
17:21:17 <fungi> :D
17:21:18 <lhinds> diablo_rojo: I will align with barbican on monday, and then let you know the final ask by email / irc
17:21:49 <lhinds> i think we might move into their slot diablo_rojo , let me clarify though
17:22:16 <lhinds> diablo_rojo: I will also reply with enterpads etc.
17:22:38 <diablo_rojo> lhinds, sounds good :) Much appreciated.
17:22:47 <lhinds> thx are all mine diablo_rojo
17:22:55 <diablo_rojo> lhinds, :)
17:23:17 <lhinds> fungi: I spoke with some custodia folks earlier this week, and there were keen to come into the sec meeting.
17:23:33 <fungi> oh, nice!
17:23:37 <lhinds> fungi: they are also going into the oslo meeting to give an overview there with a driver proposal.
17:23:49 <fungi> sounds like a cool synergy
17:23:55 <lhinds> maybe we can get a short demo and overview.
17:24:21 <fungi> granted, at least a few of those devs also work(ed) on openstack
17:25:13 <lhinds> yep..there is a clear need for addressing clear text passwords, well in as much as operators ask about it a lot.
17:25:31 <lhinds> ok, that's it for PTGs.
17:25:40 <lhinds> Any VMT bugs need input fungi ?
17:26:11 <lhinds> publics that is
17:26:36 <fungi> nothing from me
17:26:57 <lhinds> ok, cool. well thanks for coming along fungi - catch you next time :)!
17:27:02 <lhinds> #endmeeting