17:10:33 #startmeeting self-healing 17:10:34 Meeting started Wed Aug 28 17:10:33 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is aspiers. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:10:35 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 17:10:37 The meeting name has been set to 'self_healing' 17:10:46 Let's have a quick chat, I guess we won't need too long 17:10:57 #topic list of testing tools 17:11:07 #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/675138/ 17:11:22 aspiers, thanks for formatting and proof reading the list. 17:11:37 ihti: you're welcome, thanks a lot for addressing all the feedback so well 17:11:51 I think this looks great and we can merge now if that's alright with you guys? 17:12:00 great! 17:12:02 We can easily submit follow-ups as needed 17:12:25 but if we merge now then we can get it out to our contacts at the mentioned projects 17:12:39 and then when they've had a chance to review, we can announce to the whole community 17:12:57 Does that make sense? 17:13:16 I tried to add the maturity column but after going through all of them it seems like all of them are mature, couldn't really tell if they are unfinished or immature based on their git repos. 17:13:24 aspiers, yes make sense 17:14:09 That's fine, I guess the activity column is enough, and maturity is subjective anyway 17:14:53 OK great 17:15:05 ihti: Do you have plans for any next steps? 17:15:28 as for the practical work on Eris I am trying to run the demo. 17:15:36 Awesome 17:16:01 but have been stuck on setting up openstack with mkcloud with HA enabled 17:16:07 Ah OK 17:16:25 Ping me on our internal #cloud channel if you need help 17:16:31 since the last week so hopefully will be solved this week 17:16:32 Either I can help or whoever else sees your message 17:16:39 Great 17:17:10 but yes, for the next steps I am just planning to analyze Eris more. 17:17:23 That would be helpful 17:17:32 I don't know how useful it is in its current state 17:17:53 but would be good to learn how close it is to something useful 17:18:19 IIRC this project is timeboxed for you, right? How much time do you have left? 17:18:21 not really as its mentioned that its pre-alpha version in the demo 17:18:32 yes it is 17:18:33 OK pre-alpha is about what I expected :) 17:18:50 till Febraury 17:18:53 OK cool 17:19:17 so I would like to also focus on the practical implementation as well as the litrature of how things are done right now 17:19:17 Do you have a good idea of what you want to do until then, or does it depend a lot on how each step goes? 17:19:27 Yes the practical side is very important 17:19:53 #topic practical investigation of testing frameworks 17:20:03 Yes so I would like to do control and data plane testing with failure injecions 17:20:12 that would be the first priority 17:20:19 Great, that would be extremely useful 17:20:25 and then move to performance/benchmarking 17:20:30 Yep 17:20:49 It would be great if it was possible to try that with 2 or 3 different frameworks and see how they perform 17:20:52 and if possible the scalability/concurrency 17:21:08 e.g. Eris vs. Yardstick or whatever 17:21:20 alright 17:21:57 Cool 17:22:03 yes, I will try out some tools wrt of these points 17:22:10 Don't hesitate to ping me if you need help at any point 17:22:12 and then we can decide which can be used 17:22:16 Yup 17:22:30 sure 17:22:39 We should probably also announce to the community that you are working on this 17:22:49 Merged openstack/self-healing-sig master: Add list of tools for Openstack testing https://review.opendev.org/675138 17:22:55 \o/ 17:23:01 :) 17:23:02 yes 17:23:05 Nice! 17:23:08 :) 17:23:25 = p 17:23:29 In the next few minutes, it should appear at https://docs.openstack.org/self-healing-sig/latest/ 17:23:47 cool, thanks! 17:24:32 http://zuul.openstack.org/stream/33fa4c0db0564b598f31074d67d18b07?logfile=console.log 17:24:36 That's the promotion job 17:24:46 from http://zuul.openstack.org/status 17:25:15 ah nice, pretty helpful. 17:25:20 https://docs.openstack.org/self-healing-sig/latest/testing/tools-list.html 17:25:22 landed :) 17:25:51 awesome! 17:26:02 OK, I guess I should send out an update about that 17:26:25 to the tool developers? 17:26:33 or whole community 17:26:40 I think just to the tool devs first 17:26:45 give them a chance to make sure it's accurate 17:26:51 yes, sound better. 17:27:06 I can collect there authors/devs 17:27:08 I mean, I'm sure it's accurate but sometime they might want things portrayed slightly differently 17:27:15 That would be super helpful, thanks! 17:27:48 I guess in some cases it might mean finding a mailing list or IRC channel, or submitting a ticket to a github issue tracker, or just emailing the maintainer 17:27:57 I think it would be more helpful if they review them themselves, I am sure it missed many things. 17:28:31 I will keep that in mind and look out for those as well. 17:28:48 Maybe we can start an etherpad for tracking this? 17:29:03 yes, that's good idea 17:29:13 is there an etherpad instance for openstack? 17:29:29 https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/extreme-testing-tools-contacts 17:30:53 OK 17:31:15 So we can copy and paste the list of tools into that, and maybe share out the work of contacting each tool community 17:31:28 ekcs: any chance that's something you could help out with too? no worries if you're too busy though 17:31:46 got it, thanks 17:31:51 yup I can help 17:33:38 great 17:34:46 OK, just stubbed out that etherpad 17:35:33 So we can mark on that list who is dealing with each tool 17:35:44 to avoid two people duplicating the same work 17:35:47 I can take of all 17:35:51 shoudln't be aproblem 17:35:58 *care 17:35:59 Oh amazing, thank you so much :) 17:36:34 OK this is great progress 17:36:39 your welcome, they aren't many :) 17:37:04 Anything else on this topic? 17:37:11 noe 17:37:14 OK 17:37:18 #topic AOB 17:37:42 ekcs: do we need to discuss Shanghai any more? IIRC we are all set with session booking etc.? 17:38:16 I think we are ok on shanghai for now. of course we’ll need to start brainstorming topics etc at some point. 17:38:24 yup 17:38:38 OK, anything else to discuss at all? 17:39:31 not at this point = ) 17:40:05 OK cool, thanks very much both and cu online! 17:40:15 o/ 17:40:32 bye! :) 17:40:54 bye :) 17:40:56 #endmeeting