13:01:37 <Qiming> #startmeeting senlin 13:01:38 <openstack> Meeting started Tue Sep 15 13:01:37 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Qiming. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:01:40 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 13:01:42 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'senlin' 13:01:47 <gongysh> qiming: ping 13:01:58 <Qiming> hi, gongysh, welcome 13:02:04 <yanyanhu> hi 13:02:22 <haiwei> hi 13:02:30 <elynn> Hi 13:02:33 <Qiming> please add topics to the agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SenlinAgenda 13:02:46 <yanyanhu> hi, elynn 13:02:46 <jruano> hello 13:03:23 <Qiming> #topic liberty work items 13:03:33 <Qiming> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/senlin-liberty-workitems 13:03:53 <Qiming> container cluster work 13:04:04 <yanyanhu> just cleaned some completed workitems this afternoon 13:04:06 <Qiming> I think we will get an update from the SUR team tomorrow 13:04:31 <Qiming> I was contacted by our team there yesterday, however, I was trapped by a two-day long meeting ... 13:04:45 <Qiming> thanks, yanyanhu 13:04:58 <gongysh> what is SUR team? 13:05:08 <jruano> keep me posted with the update from the team 13:05:23 <Qiming> it is a Shared University Research project we had with Tongji Univ 13:06:04 <Qiming> sure, jruano, will post an update to the team after I get inputs from them tomorrow 13:06:04 <Qiming> the team has been doing a great job in prototyping a container cluster using senlin 13:06:13 <Qiming> it was done in the context of magnum 13:07:48 <gongysh> Qiming, it seems you should change your network provider 13:07:52 <Qiming> if anyone is interested in that work, please let me know 13:08:06 <Qiming> gongysh, yep, my network connection just broke 13:08:53 <Qiming> also, jruano and I just had a phone call on the TOSCA collaboration 13:09:30 <Qiming> we will try leverage the standard to make senlin a very generic service for managing clusters 13:09:59 <Qiming> that also means we will try support container clusters as one of the killer apps 13:10:05 <jruano> yes it is very exciting. i will try to see if i can share that work with the team 13:10:26 <Qiming> jruano, yes, totally agree 13:10:47 <gongysh> qiming, do we have a doc about that? 13:10:50 <Qiming> maybe we can schedule an online session in senlin channel for this 13:11:05 <jruano> sure 13:11:24 <Qiming> sharing with the team what we have today, what's the mid-term, long-term plan 13:11:57 <jruano> gongysh, there is a preliminary document we are working on within tosca. i think that is public. i will double check, and share out what i can 13:13:00 <jruano> in terms of an online session for the team, i will schedule something shortly. 13:13:14 <Qiming> thanks jruano 13:13:29 <jruano> kind of what we are thinking, and what is the vision 13:13:40 <jruano> and how it aligns with senlin 13:14:04 <Qiming> yep, we need to bring anyone onto the same page 13:14:41 <Qiming> okay, next topic? 13:14:59 <Qiming> #topic summit preparation 13:15:12 <Qiming> a good news to share with you 13:15:41 <Qiming> we were just notified that one of our talk proposals was accepted 13:15:48 <elynn> cool 13:15:51 <yanyanhu> great! 13:15:52 <jruano> awesome 13:16:03 <Qiming> it was accepted before as "alternative" 13:16:10 <haiwei> which one 13:16:36 <Qiming> since there was a cancellation, we are now having a timeslot: Thursday October 29th, 9:50am- 10:30 13:16:50 <yanyanhu> haiwei, the one how senlin works with magnum I think 13:16:50 <Qiming> topic: Exploring Magnum and Senlin integration for autoscaling containers 13:16:58 <Qiming> in the Containers track 13:17:03 <jruano> very cool 13:17:20 <haiwei> great 13:17:29 <Qiming> I'll let the SUR team know that as well 13:17:59 <Qiming> it will be the first public show case for the project 13:18:05 <Qiming> we really need to get it done well 13:18:35 <yanyanhu> yep, try our best to ensure it's impressive :P 13:18:37 <Qiming> another thing for the summit prep is some kind of meetup 13:19:11 <Qiming> since the number of meeting rooms is very very limited 13:19:30 <Qiming> even if we want to schedule something, we can only have a round-table discussion 13:19:58 <haiwei> can we do it outside? 13:20:14 <Qiming> certainly 13:20:16 <yanyanhu> Qiming, I think this is ok. The most important thing is to have a chance to make a discussion together :) 13:20:18 <jruano> what day were you thinking. yes outside is another option 13:21:05 <Qiming> I think most participants to the summit will have their own schedule 13:21:12 <jruano> i am there monday through friday. although friday probably wanted to do some sightseeing 13:21:32 <Qiming> in just 4 days, a lot of things to catch up, to watch, to listen, to communicate 13:21:59 <Qiming> we will need to find a timeslot that works for most of us 13:22:06 <yanyanhu> maybe in break time? 13:22:20 <yanyanhu> we can have a meal together :) 13:22:22 <Qiming> #action Qiming to start a poll on the time for team meetup during summit 13:22:38 <Qiming> definitely, yanyanhu 13:23:12 <Qiming> I'll create a poll and send it to the mailinglist 13:23:40 <yanyanhu> ok 13:23:42 <Qiming> I know there are some web apps that can help us do this 13:24:03 <Qiming> #topic mitaka planning 13:24:47 <Qiming> while I'm still trying to create a POC release for senlin, it's time for the team to think about next cycle 13:25:21 <Qiming> what are the goals we want to achieve during the next 6 month 13:26:02 <yanyanhu> yea, and we need a plan for each 2 month 13:26:04 <Qiming> something above my head, for everyone to think about 13:26:37 <Qiming> we will need to do the same, list things on an etherpad page, prioritize them, and track them there 13:26:53 <elynn> yes 13:27:47 <Qiming> em ... why don't we just start input things now ... 13:27:55 <yanyanhu> and also BP I think. We still didn't use it well currently 13:27:56 <Qiming> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/senlin-mitaka-workitems 13:28:25 <haiwei> Is it mostly the same with the TODO.rst? 13:28:31 <Qiming> yes, yanyanhu, the reason is that we were not adding big features 13:28:58 <Qiming> haiwei, you can dump things from TODO list to the etherpad 13:29:00 <yanyanhu> yes 13:30:38 <Qiming> I'm typing in the etherpad 13:32:39 <Qiming> em ... done 13:32:57 <elynn> ok, lots of things need to be done. 13:32:59 <Qiming> haven't looked at the TODO.rst file and the FEATURES.rst file yet 13:33:13 <yanyanhu> so one of the most important works is implementing those policies for scaling and HA 13:33:35 <janonymous> hey senlin group 13:33:46 <janonymous> Hi Qiming 13:33:51 <Qiming> elynn, yes, lots of things, we need to work on the list to prioritize things 13:33:57 <Qiming> hi, janonymous 13:34:02 <Qiming> welcome 13:34:22 <Qiming> we cannot get everything done in a single cycle 13:34:26 <yanyanhu> hi, janonymous 13:34:44 <janonymous> yanyanhu: hi 13:34:45 <Qiming> you helps are needed to review the items and prioritize them 13:35:07 <Qiming> feel free to add things you think are important 13:36:02 <Qiming> for the placement policy, we already have a WIP from Cindia 13:36:03 <yanyanhu> yea, and sign you name after the workitem you're gonna work on ;) 13:36:35 <janonymous> Haha. 13:36:48 <elynn> : ) 13:36:50 <Qiming> we need more hands, more eyes, :) 13:37:01 <janonymous> you got my eyes :) 13:37:27 <Qiming> cool 13:37:41 <janonymous> I could help review but +1 won't matter i guess :( 13:37:59 <Qiming> janonymous, it matters 13:38:21 <Qiming> we respect all reviews 13:39:13 <janonymous> Qiming: I'll try to review things 13:39:21 <Qiming> thanks 13:40:23 <Qiming> please think hard team, what do you want to see in senlin 13:40:55 <Qiming> it won't be a one night job, let's keep working on that 13:40:59 <yanyanhu> definitely 13:41:03 <Qiming> #topic open discussions 13:42:21 <Qiming> just realized that we need to have Heat resource types for Senlin 13:42:52 <elynn> yes 13:43:08 <elynn> to show capabilities to replace ASG 13:43:12 <Qiming> yep 13:43:27 <Qiming> we can place them under contrib if needed 13:43:36 <Qiming> the earlier the better 13:43:39 <elynn> I can work on that 13:43:51 <yanyanhu> cool 13:44:03 <Qiming> getting some early feedbacks from heat team is very important 13:44:24 <Qiming> many thanks, elynn 13:44:55 <Qiming> anything else? 13:45:04 <elynn> I will prepare a spec for it and you guys need to review it. 13:45:07 <Qiming> or questsions? 13:45:20 <yanyanhu> hi, Qiming, about the release of senlin service 13:45:43 <Qiming> yes, yanyanhu 13:45:50 <Qiming> I have been working on that last week 13:45:51 <yanyanhu> so we need to finish those workitems left in ethpad before that? 13:46:16 <Qiming> I tried to create a release for senlinclient first, so that it can be published on Pypi 13:46:19 <yanyanhu> all those ones, right? 13:46:25 <Qiming> it didn't succeed 13:46:54 <Qiming> still tring to figure it out 13:47:00 <yanyanhu> ok 13:47:22 <jruano_> yeah client is probably best to start with 13:47:31 <Qiming> I think it is fine to do a POC release at this stage 13:47:57 <Qiming> I started from senlinclient because it is needed by the senlin-dashboard project anyway 13:48:06 <Qiming> need to find a guru on this 13:48:25 <Qiming> maybe there is some infra setup missing 13:49:09 <Qiming> anything else? 13:49:18 <jruano_> someone from our team just did this last week, but he is out this week 13:49:22 <jruano_> for heat-translator 13:49:48 <Qiming> jruano_, good to know, need some advices from him 13:49:57 <yanyanhu> yea 13:50:13 <jruano_> ill send him a note, but he most likely won't respond until he gets back 13:50:13 <Qiming> jruano_, are you talking about Sandev ? 13:50:18 <jruano_> yeah sahdev 13:50:19 <haiwei_> you are back tomorrow? Qiming 13:50:37 <Qiming> I know him well, :) 13:50:38 <jruano_> he just released tosca parser and heat-translator to pypi 13:50:40 <jruano_> cool 13:50:53 <Qiming> yes, haiwei_, back from a loooooong meeting 13:50:57 <jruano_> took him some time, but since it is fresh in his mind he might be a good help 13:51:19 <Qiming> cool, it will save us a lot of time I believe 13:51:50 <jruano_> so, on another topic... in terms of this notion of openstack "big tent", is that something we are working towards in senlin? 13:52:15 <Qiming> jruano_, we need to understand the new criteria ... 13:52:23 <jruano_> cool 13:53:21 <Qiming> if I'm understanding it correctly, it is mostly about some tags that will be applied on individual projects 13:53:48 <Qiming> there won't be stackforge projects anymore 13:54:13 <Qiming> if you guys know something on this, please let me know 13:54:17 <jruano_> yep... maybe we just ask to tag senlin :) 13:54:27 <Qiming> right. 13:54:39 <Qiming> we can learn from some existing reviews 13:54:45 <jruano_> ill ask around see if i can find anything else more about it 13:54:57 <Qiming> cool 13:55:15 <Qiming> still 5 minutes 13:56:01 <Qiming> if nothing else for discussion today, let's end this meeting 13:56:14 <yanyanhu> nope from me 13:56:23 <Qiming> I'll send emails to you after reviewing the container cluster thread's progress 13:56:34 <Qiming> thanks for joining 13:56:41 <Qiming> #endmeeting