13:01:10 <Qiming_> #startmeeting senlin
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13:01:31 <yanyanhu> hello
13:01:59 <yanyanhu> I thought you were still in another meeting :)
13:02:10 <Qiming> yep, was talking to TOSCA guys
13:02:24 <yanyanhu> nice
13:02:31 <haiwei> hi
13:02:43 <haiwei> what is nice?
13:02:54 <Qiming> time for adding things to the agenda
13:03:00 <Qiming> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SenlinAgenda#Weekly_Senlin_.28Clustering.29_meeting
13:03:06 <jruano> hello
13:03:13 <yanyanhu> haiwei, about meeting with tosca team :)
13:03:16 <Qiming> hello, jruano
13:03:25 <yanyanhu> hi, jruano
13:04:00 <haiwei> oh, nice
13:04:10 <jruano> i have a design session setup for tomorrow morning. can meet in irc, and i will share the call info
13:04:40 <yanyanhu> thanks, jruano
13:04:57 <jruano> one hour before this time tomorrow so i think 1200 UTC
13:05:34 <jruano> we will do an overview on tosca and the vision we see for collaboration with senlin
13:05:56 <Qiming> jruano, there is a call in number?
13:06:08 <jruano> there is, one sec
13:07:28 <jruano> https://www.teleconference.att.com/servlet/glbAccess?process=1&accessCode=81307605&accessNumber=2158616239#C2
13:07:46 <jruano> passcode: 81307605
13:07:58 <jruano> ill be on irc if anyone has any issues getting in
13:08:35 <Qiming> great
13:08:41 <Qiming> #topic container cluster
13:09:01 <Qiming> we have got some updates from the SUR team: https://github.com/eshijia/Open-SUR
13:09:16 <Qiming> the team has been documenting their progresses here
13:09:48 <Qiming> I've suggested them to move it to etherpad, will share with you the link when we have something new
13:11:12 <Qiming> network very unstable these days, and Notes is not responding
13:12:09 <Qiming> jruano, do you still have bandwidth to work on this topic?
13:12:55 <jruano> i do. we've been talking on the side with ton, and he invited me to the meeting this week. i've been working on standing up a coreos cluster
13:13:09 <jruano> i will show up for the meetings and start working on items
13:13:25 <Qiming> okay, will get you into the circle then
13:13:54 <Qiming> hope we can get something up running in coming days
13:14:04 <Qiming> #topic trigger implementation
13:14:51 <Qiming> Our trigger type implementation, the ceilometer alarm one, has to be based on the new alarming service -- aodh
13:15:11 <Qiming> I have proposed a change to openstacksdk here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226689/
13:16:13 <Qiming> hope it will be accepted soon, the recent progress at the sdk side is really slow
13:16:26 <yanyanhu> cool, and I saw gordon's comment
13:17:21 <Qiming> however, we can still use the existing telemetry service (as an experiement)
13:17:54 <Qiming> I will proceed at senlin side at the same time, so that we won't be blocked by this change
13:18:04 <yanyanhu> yes, at least for now before the alarm related code is removed from ceilometer completely
13:18:11 <yanyanhu> ok
13:18:33 <Qiming> there are some redirection logic in ceilometerclient and ceilometer server
13:18:41 <yanyanhu> I think the patch in ceilometer for alarm spliting is now blocked temporarily?
13:18:54 <Qiming> guess what, aodh will have its own client, according to gordon
13:19:04 <yanyanhu> ok...
13:19:11 <yanyanhu> when will it be available?
13:19:19 <Qiming> don't know
13:19:27 <jruano> man i thought this service was supposed to be transparent
13:19:39 <Qiming> but we as REST api users don't care that much about the aodhclient thing
13:19:55 <yanyanhu> jruano, it will be not I guess...
13:20:06 <yanyanhu> Qiming, yes
13:20:43 <Qiming> since ethan is on vacation
13:20:59 <Qiming> we have to skip the heat resource type support topic
13:21:03 <yanyanhu> actually IMO, letting alarm become an individual service in openstack might be a good idea
13:21:10 <yanyanhu> ok
13:21:12 <Qiming> we resume the discussion with him when he is back
13:21:46 <Qiming> #topic big tent proposal
13:22:10 <Qiming> since the Mitaka development has started
13:22:31 <Qiming> I'm thinking maybe it's time for us to propose senlin into the big tent
13:22:44 <yanyanhu> agree with this
13:23:07 <Qiming> I've been browsing through the previous reviews about getting projects accepted into big tent
13:23:08 <haiwei> +1
13:23:52 <Qiming> we need to start drafting something for the TC to review
13:24:03 <Qiming> and get prepared for questions
13:24:09 <yanyanhu> yes, lots of homework need to be done I think
13:24:30 <Qiming> first things first, we still need to make the service stable and usable
13:24:48 <Qiming> or else, it means nothing to wear a new hat
13:24:48 <yanyanhu> yes
13:24:57 <jruano> agreed
13:25:23 <Qiming> I do believe we are almost there, so let's have a try
13:25:45 <Qiming> I'll start working on this in the coming days, and send out a draft for everyone to review
13:25:45 <yanyanhu> \o/
13:25:54 <yanyanhu> thanks
13:26:22 <haiwei> ok
13:26:23 <Qiming> as a first step, we have had senlinclient released
13:26:42 <Qiming> so that senlin-dashboard doesn't have to pull things from git directly
13:26:48 <yanyanhu> it works well I think
13:27:02 <Qiming> now we are proposing senlinclient into the global requirements
13:27:03 <Qiming> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227158/
13:27:47 <Qiming> the big red cross there is because the requirements is frozen for Liberty release
13:28:11 <Qiming> not a big deal
13:28:35 <yanyanhu> yep :)
13:29:15 <Qiming> the global namespace switching is scheduled on Oct 17th, IIRC
13:30:08 <Qiming> so, for us, it's time to start planning for Mitaka
13:30:20 <yanyanhu> maybe we should clean those opened patches before that?
13:30:33 <Qiming> yes
13:31:42 <Qiming> please spend some time review our mitaka work items
13:31:43 <Qiming> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/senlin-mitaka-workitems
13:32:14 <Qiming> see if something is missing
13:32:14 <yanyanhu> sure
13:32:34 <Qiming> add comments if you think something is more important than others
13:33:14 <Qiming> #topic open discussions
13:33:41 <Qiming> anything you want to discuss?
13:33:50 <yanyanhu> about joining the summit
13:34:00 <Qiming> right
13:34:11 <yanyanhu> so Qiming I think we two have decieded to join
13:34:25 <Qiming> jruano, are you coming?
13:34:29 <Qiming> or matt?
13:34:37 <jruano> i will be there
13:34:42 <yanyanhu> cool!
13:35:09 <haiwei> i should be there, not 100% though
13:35:15 <Qiming> okay, Sandy told me that he will send 4 or more people there for a meeting
13:35:24 <yanyanhu> you're so close to the meeting site ...
13:35:40 <Qiming> we may need to schedule a meetup
13:35:45 <haiwei> yes : )
13:35:48 <jruano> none of my proposals got accepted, so ill be there mostly for learning and participating in design sessions
13:35:48 <yanyanhu> absolutely
13:35:55 <jruano> yes we should
13:36:26 <Qiming> we will share with people our vision, plan
13:37:01 <Qiming> and we will be all ears to all kinds of suggestions/comments
13:37:48 <Qiming> I'll ask around how to book a place there
13:38:22 <Qiming> anything else?
13:38:46 <yanyanhu> nope from me
13:38:59 <Qiming> just got one thing, haiwei
13:39:07 <haiwei> yes?
13:39:18 <Qiming> I checked your patch on deletion-policy, for resize operation
13:39:30 <Qiming> the logic is incorrect, IMO
13:39:39 <haiwei> I also saw yanyan's comment
13:39:56 <Qiming> we don't reference to any specific policy from within an action
13:39:56 <haiwei> I tried to do it like other actions
13:40:19 <yanyanhu> yes, if you have any question about how it works, we can have a discussion about it
13:40:20 <Qiming> okay, cool, ping us when you got things to discuss
13:40:53 <haiwei> in fact i just submit it to get suggestions from you
13:41:13 <Qiming> ...
13:41:26 <haiwei> I will think about it again from yanyan's comment
13:41:32 <yanyanhu> :)
13:41:33 <Qiming> then you may want to label it a WIP next time, :)
13:41:39 <Qiming> thanks
13:41:55 <Qiming> nothing else from my side
13:42:01 <haiwei> I just not sure about it :)
13:42:08 <yanyanhu> me neither
13:42:08 <haiwei> none from me
13:42:27 <Qiming> okay, thanks for joining
13:42:27 <Qiming> till next week, guys
13:42:31 <Qiming> #endmeeting
13:42:38 <haiwei> se e u
13:43:09 <yanyanhu> hi, Qiming I think you need to reset you nickname to end the meeting
13:43:22 <yanyanhu> to Qiming_
13:43:32 <Qiming_> #endmeeting