13:00:16 #startmeeting senlin 13:00:17 Meeting started Tue Jan 17 13:00:16 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is yanyanhu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:00:18 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 13:00:20 The meeting name has been set to 'senlin' 13:00:35 hello, everyone 13:00:59 evening 13:01:17 hi, ruijie_ 13:01:41 hi, yanyanhu 13:02:24 lets wait for a while for other attenders 13:02:37 xuefeng is still on the way back home I think 13:03:42 hi, lxinhui 13:03:56 hi 13:04:15 Qiming, around? 13:04:41 lets keep waiting for minutes 13:04:48 Hi 13:04:52 hi, elynn 13:05:40 ok, lets get started, I think qiming and xuefeng will catch up soon 13:05:49 here is the agenda, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SenlinAgenda#Agenda_.282017-01-17_1300_UTC.29 13:05:58 please feel free to add items 13:06:11 #topic Senlin Ocata meetup summary 13:06:30 first, thanks all you guys joining the meetup last weekend :) 13:06:52 we made a great discssion and the meeting is very productive I believe :) 13:07:09 we have summaried a long TODO list 13:07:10 https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/senlin-ocata-meetup 13:07:34 and I guess some of you have put your +1 on some items 13:07:38 :) 13:07:48 it wil help us to decide the priority of different jobs 13:08:23 based on current voting, there are 3 items get the highest priority 13:08:34 1. Add command "node adopt --profile-type --properties network.id= --resource " +1+1+1+1 13:08:39 this is for nova server adoption 13:09:07 which can help user to adopt some existing VMs which were not created by senlin before 13:09:29 then senlin can help to manage those VMs' lifecycle 13:09:44 2. Enrich "nova server" profile to add more properties 13:10:25 this is for enhancing our existing nova server profile to make it support creation of new volume, network port, sec-group etc. per users' requirement 13:10:36 this is important for some use case like NFV 13:10:57 3. Tutorial documentation 13:10:58 :) 13:11:03 Tutorial documentation for HA 13:11:13 * ruijie_ agreed 13:11:20 sorry those three are current winner :) 13:11:38 and I have marked them using BLACK in the etherpad 13:12:12 I think we can consider to start those works asap 13:12:47 especially the first one, which is not only related to our summit proposal but also for real use case in NFV scenario 13:13:00 hi, XueFengLiu 13:13:10 hi, all 13:13:19 we are going through those todos we summaried in meetup 13:14:04 so there are three high priority works: 1) nova serve adoption 2)enriching nova server profile 2)HA tutorial 13:14:23 XueFengLiu, I recalled you have started a spec about nova serve adoption? 13:14:43 s/serve/server 13:15:06 Yes, will submit draft latter 13:15:22 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/senlin/+spec/senlin-adpot-function 13:15:25 this one 13:15:39 great, thanks 13:16:00 but I think we may not be able to finish this work in Ocata cycle since there are only 1 month left before the final release 13:16:11 and the o3 release will be in 2 weeks 13:16:32 so we can settle down the design in current stage 13:16:39 Ok 13:16:56 This cycle is to short 13:17:06 s/to/too 13:17:09 yes, only 4 months... 13:17:27 about the enriching nova server profile(or a new profile), I think we should start to work on it soon 13:17:47 yes 13:17:58 elynn, Qiming and me have had some discussion about it today 13:18:13 about some implementation detail actually :) 13:18:20 :) 13:18:44 but I believe the entire work should be supported by most people :) 13:18:47 I put them on etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/senlin-vdu-profile 13:19:00 elynn, great 13:19:04 Yes 13:19:08 And I'm working on a PoC code 13:19:15 When elynn got the poc done 13:19:16 guys, please help to review and leave your comments 13:19:20 great 13:19:21 cool 13:19:30 I can help to use it with VNF 13:19:31 Great job 13:19:44 then we will know the result and where to improve 13:19:59 lxinhui, yes 13:20:04 and actually XueFengLiu have given me a quick call few minutes ago about the Senlin NFV proposal to Boston summit 13:20:07 yes lxinhui 13:20:17 I believe this is very important for us 13:20:32 to show the ability of senlin of managing the resource pool in real case 13:20:41 a real and important case 13:21:22 since the deadline of proposal is Feb.6th, and I guess most of the team will start their vacation for Spring festival since the end of the month 13:21:34 I just talked to my boss about the use case 13:21:35 before the end of the month :) 13:21:51 Since we are having an annual meeting 13:21:55 so I think we'd better complete the proposal before we starting our vacation 13:22:02 ruijie_, yes 13:22:32 Yes 13:22:32 We will find an project with 1000s of vm 13:22:41 To implement sending 13:22:44 ruijie_, great! 13:22:45 We have a use cause use tacker now. I talk with them 13:23:05 ruijie_, if so, we can try to build another propsal based on it 13:23:16 to share your experience 13:23:23 I think the enrich profile can be a contrib and don't need to carry by a senlin release, so that we can continually improving it. 13:23:43 Yes yanyanhu, will try to detail it later 13:23:46 elynn, sure, it can stay in contrib dir for a while 13:23:52 ruijie_, thanks :) 13:24:14 hi, XueFengLiu, so I think maybe you can start a thread about NFV propsal and include elynn lxinhui and haiwei 13:24:23 and lets see how to build that topic 13:24:42 since it could include both Senlin and Taker and your real use case 13:24:56 sorry, Tacker 13:25:08 Yanyanhu 13:25:14 yes 13:25:14 Yes, will send a mail tomorrow to discuss details 13:25:21 XueFengLiu, thanks 13:25:36 do you mean the node adoption 13:25:39 ? 13:25:46 XUeFengLiu 13:26:03 lxinhui, no, NFV proposal is about enriching nova server profile to support NFV requirement 13:26:05 The real use case is in your envrionemtn 13:26:16 - Design a "feature rich" nova server, including, e.g. volume, network, security group, etc. +1+1+1+1 13:26:18 About NFV use cause,lxinhui 13:26:18 this one 13:26:41 hi, xuhaiwei 13:26:53 hi yanyanhu, everyone 13:27:03 hi, xuhaiwei 13:27:40 Yes, definitly, we can discuss 13:27:51 xuhaiwei, actually we are talking about Senlin NFV proposal to summit. XueFengLiu will start a thread tomorrow and include you guys to decide how to make it 13:28:20 I believe your work for integrating Senlin and Tacker will be important part of that topic 13:28:21 yanyanhu, ok, that's fine 13:28:36 so lets build that topic together :) 13:28:55 OK.Thanks all:) 13:29:00 :) 13:29:04 My boss also wants me to propose some session in the coming summit, we can work together I think 13:29:05 :) 13:29:15 :) 13:29:16 sure, we have the same goal :P 13:29:22 sure 13:29:25 yea 13:29:25 so that's a simple summary about the summit 13:29:37 We can together to do this 13:29:57 Phone call maybe much more efficient 13:30:14 XueFengLiu 13:30:15 lxinhui, sure, but we can start from the mail to let everyone know the item 13:30:28 We have a network element, use tacker and heat now. 13:30:28 could you schedue some meeting 13:30:33 and let them get the chance to involve :) 13:30:56 I talked with them, we can do a demo us senlin to do this 13:31:06 s/us/use 13:31:16 Are you using Dingding or something 13:31:31 It support video meeting etc 13:31:47 Good suggestion ruijie_ 13:32:24 I have VNF can share for demo purpose 13:32:39 Nice. 13:32:59 sorry, just dropped... 13:32:59 so any further discussion on meetup summary? 13:33:16 ruijie_, good idea 13:33:29 Could you schedule the meeting at afternoon since I'm busy tomorrow morning. 13:33:44 if not, I think we can keep discussing the nfv proposal offline :) 13:33:44 and decide more detail 13:33:59 there is tacker meeting from 13:30 beijing time tomorrow 13:34:18 yes 13:34:28 I can send a mail first 13:34:40 please just want to remind that the tacker meeting will be in 13:30 beijing time tomorrow 13:34:42 yanyan: about the nfv topic , I am interested in it 13:34:44 Then we can decide time 13:34:45 and hope you guys can join it 13:35:04 Will join it 13:35:12 xuhaiwei, sure, lets work on it together 13:35:46 maybe after 4:00 pm tomorrow? 13:35:56 Will join and watch it to see if there's any requirements. 13:35:57 looks like all of us are free at that time? 13:36:03 yes 13:36:08 works for me 13:36:12 Sounds good to me. 13:36:12 I'am ok 13:36:18 I am ok I think 13:36:21 xuhaiwei, and you? 13:36:24 great 13:36:36 ok, lets reconfirm it tomorrow 13:36:54 I will call you in the irc channel before it starts 13:37:10 ok, lets move on, still have several topics need to get through :) 13:37:20 #topic Ocata Work Items 13:37:20 there should be discussion about node adoption in senlin in tacker meeting I thinnk 13:37:39 xuhaiwei, yes, that item is also in our list with high priority :) 13:37:43 just as qiming said today 13:37:51 ok 13:37:53 that job will be started soon 13:38:02 just remind other members 13:38:06 hope that will be helpful to erase the concern from tacker team 13:38:06 :) 13:38:22 ok, we really need to move on :P 13:38:30 :) 13:38:36 #topic Ocata Work Items 13:39:27 ok, I think most of the items in the list have been discussed in last weekend 13:39:27 https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/senlin-ocata-workitems 13:39:27 and I have added the one about enriching nova serve profile 13:40:24 about the test, ruijie_ have started working on it 13:40:27 and about HA, we will try to add mistral workflow support and prepare a proposal based on it 13:40:37 Yea. I am working on it 13:40:47 Will finish it this week 13:40:47 and lxinhui has reached to Mistral team to see their feedback 13:41:04 ruijie_, great. No need to hurry, just take you time :) 13:41:17 Sure yanyan 13:41:24 yanyan 13:41:32 lxinhui, I think we can focus on the workflow based HA part and then show it to Mistral team and ask their opinion 13:41:52 yanyan, I touched the team is for middle-cycle 13:42:05 about proposal,I will think more about that 13:42:07 oh, you mean ptg 13:42:12 lxinhui, sure 13:42:21 let us focus on the NFV case proposal now 13:42:32 we can listen to those guys idea 13:42:32 before we make the decision 13:42:45 ok 13:43:23 so looking forward to more feedback from the them in the PTG :) 13:43:30 haha 13:43:42 Who else will be on PTG? 13:43:51 XueFengLiu 13:43:51 :) 13:43:51 ok, next topic 13:43:55 #topic Ocata-3 releas 13:43:58 you will be there? 13:44:00 Yes, will go 13:44:06 nice 13:44:13 lucky people :) 13:44:14 :) 13:44:22 lxinhui, about NFV proposal which project will be involved ? 13:44:39 xuhaiwei, both senlin and tacker I think 13:44:46 ok 13:44:47 Yes 13:44:54 and acrually 13:44:59 just we need to figure out how to organize the topic 13:45:03 we can give common NFV support 13:45:07 and how to build the case 13:45:44 we can have more discussion on it based the thread XueFengLiu will start 13:45:58 Sure 13:46:06 :) 13:46:07 Yes, to highlight senlin with this proposal 13:46:10 ok, about Ocata-3 release, it will come in a week 13:46:35 please pay attention to those critical bugs that are still not addressed 13:46:40 according to my thought previously, I was planning to make it a small session about 15mins, but if we think about it more, we can make it a big one maybe 13:46:44 Some bugs have fixed 13:46:56 About project_safe 13:46:59 xuhaiwei, that's for sure 13:47:04 XueFengLiu, yes, saw your patch 13:47:34 enabling project_safe for admin user does bring us some problems :) 13:47:45 XueFengLiu has a use case for NFV? 13:48:01 need to address all potential issues before release 13:48:08 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/417697/ 13:48:42 yes 13:48:47 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/420631/ 13:48:47 that one has been fixed 13:49:17 I guess there are still some corners need to seek 13:49:28 Yes 13:49:29 hope we won't miss something :) 13:49:38 need check 13:49:42 yes 13:49:55 Found 2 bugs before about senlin client 13:50:08 Will look forward to it tomorrow 13:50:13 Also about do_check 13:50:18 ruijie_, great, thanks a lot 13:50:33 do_recover 13:50:37 ah, right 13:50:41 some issues 13:51:02 XueFengLiu, so please help to confirm they all work correctly, thanks 13:51:32 Ok 13:52:13 I plan to cut the release on Tuesday or Wednesday next week 13:52:21 If no much time, will fix high priority first 13:52:25 since Friday will be Chinese Spring festival 13:52:34 XueFengLiu, sure :) 13:52:44 will also help to check it 13:53:06 ok, any more question about this topic? 13:53:30 ok, lets move on 13:53:42 Proposals for Boston Summit. We have discussed it. 13:54:07 and remind again, hope you guys can join the Tacker meeting tomorrow 13:54:18 Beijing time 13:30, UTC 0530 13:54:18 when is it? 13:54:25 tomorrow 13:54:27 you are so nice :) 13:54:30 OK 13:54:31 :) 13:54:56 ok, open discussion now, we still have 5 minutes :) 13:55:46 hi, xuhaiwei, how urgent the server adoption feature is required based on the feedback you got? 13:56:20 if it is for NFV use case 13:56:27 Tacker team hopes to finish senlin integration jobs in ocata release 13:56:39 but it is very difficult IMO 13:56:43 xuhaiwei, but the spec is still pending... 13:56:45 yes... 13:56:56 strange 13:57:23 yes, the PTL seems to support this feature, but some cores are asking strange questions 13:57:59 I see. Anyway, we try our best to drive it 13:58:09 yes 13:58:31 but we can't decide the result by ourselves :) 13:58:48 I think the spec will be merged soon 13:59:09 xuhaiwei, yes, I think so too 13:59:26 so lets discuss it more in tomorrow's meeting 13:59:29 Tacker meeting 13:59:36 yea 13:59:36 ok, time is almost over 13:59:45 thanks all you guys for joining 13:59:47 see u 13:59:50 have a good night :) 13:59:56 and talk to you tomorrow 14:00:00 Good night 14:00:01 good night 14:00:11 #endmeeting 14:00:31 #endmeeting