05:02:01 <yamahata> #startmeeting servicevm-device-manager 05:02:02 <openstack> Meeting started Tue Sep 16 05:02:01 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is yamahata. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 05:02:03 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 05:02:05 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'servicevm_device_manager' 05:02:13 <yamahata> #topic Announcement 05:02:46 <yamahata> Now neutron has feature freeze for rc1 05:02:59 <yamahata> the planning for the next summit is going on 05:03:13 <yamahata> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Summit/Planning 05:03:27 <yamahata> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-neutron-summit-topics 05:03:39 <yamahata> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-September/045844.html 05:04:13 <yamahata> regarding to reference implementation of routervm, I'm still working on it. 05:04:18 <yamahata> Sorry for slow progress. 05:04:37 <yamahata> Do you have any announcement? 05:05:05 <bmelande> That summit topic list is really long 05:05:09 <s3wong> Looking at the topics in etherpad, it seems like again at most there will only be one or two features going into Kilo... 05:06:09 <yamahata> yeah... 05:06:26 <s3wong> most of the stuff is spilling over from Juno, or Icehouse, or Havana, or Grizzly... 05:06:30 <yamahata> do we want to push routervm and firewallvm to it? 05:06:31 <bmelande> s3wong: Yes, sadly neutron in a nutshell. 05:07:04 <s3wong> from the ML, the format will be different this time 05:07:14 <yamahata> anyway we can have ad-hoc meetings in paris. 05:07:18 <s3wong> there will be way less dedicated design sessions 05:07:26 <yamahata> #topic summit planning 05:07:37 <s3wong> pods, and Friday's "contributor meetings" will probably be it 05:09:47 <bmelande> yamahata: Yes, let's fit some meetings about service vm there. 05:09:58 <yamahata> s3wong: that's same to my understanding. 05:10:31 <yamahata> I had also a contact for similar goal. 05:10:36 <yamahata> #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/tcs-fwaas-netconf-host-plugin 05:10:52 <yamahata> Their goal is firewall vm in a word. 05:11:10 <yamahata> One of their engineer will go to Paris, I heard. 05:11:51 <yamahata> bmelande: Sure, let's do so. 05:12:21 <s3wong> yamahata: bmelande: yes, I think we can put it in etherpad 05:12:26 <yamahata> bmelande: So far I haven't looked at firewall side yet. Do you have any requirement for firewall? 05:12:30 <s3wong> service vm, that is 05:13:13 <s3wong> but honestly given the slots, and the number of topics already on there, I am not too optimistic that it will make it --- likely we will try to grab a pod session 05:13:34 <s3wong> internally we should also discuss f2f in Paris what our goal is for Kilo 05:14:22 <yamahata> s3wong: +1, sounds like practical good plan 05:14:28 <yamahata> a pod session 05:14:33 <bmelande> s3wong: +1 05:15:03 <s3wong> yamahata: bmelande: well, first thing first, let's put the topic on etherpad :-) 05:15:18 <s3wong> maybe it will be selected 05:15:31 <yamahata> #action everyone put the topics on etherpad 05:15:35 <bmelande> yamahata: Sridar K in our team is working on fw on CSR. There are no new reqs wrt it. 05:17:24 <yamahata> bmelande: good. we can also discuss on those in paris. I'd like to understand it. 05:17:47 <s3wong> bmelande: yes, we should see if our framework can satisfy other services as well 05:17:58 <s3wong> bmelande: the more services using our framework, the better 05:19:18 <bmelande> yes, how to handle multi services in the same device is worth discussing and looking into. 05:19:19 <yamahata> #topic Open Discussion 05:19:33 <s3wong> bmelande: yes, absolutely 05:20:48 <yamahata> bmelande: yeah, you are ahead, so there are so many we can learn from you 05:21:09 <bmelande> Glad you have that illusion. :-) 05:21:45 <s3wong> bmelande: your code landed in Juno :-) 05:22:14 <s3wong> bmelande: hopefully we can factor it out as generic device mgmt framework for all service VMs 05:22:20 <bmelande> Yes, we were really, really lucky. 05:22:47 <yamahata> I hope refectoring patch would be easy to be accepted. 05:23:01 <bmelande> s3wong: but what got it was a stripped down version where took away a lot of things. 05:23:38 <s3wong> bmelande: still great --- this is normal procedure in OpenStack anyway :-) 05:24:02 <s3wong> yamahata: moving forward, what is our goal? Do you want tacker to eventually merge back to Neutron? 05:24:05 <yamahata> bmelande: start small and grow it. It's quite common practice. 05:24:35 <s3wong> if so, we may want to pay attention to Neutron incubator... 05:24:54 <yamahata> s3wong: I think merging back the project to neutron is difficult, given recent situation. 05:25:17 <yamahata> I don't care if It's dependent project or in neutron. 05:25:27 <bmelande> yamahata: Yes I think so too. 05:25:35 <yamahata> It's a implementation detail. 05:25:51 <s3wong> yamahata: I actually agree. I am in the group-based policy (GBP) subteam - I guess everyone knows our frustration there... 05:25:52 <yamahata> The essential goal is to promote servicevm conecpt and implentation. 05:26:42 <yamahata> The implementation itself is not goal. Just a way. 05:26:54 <bmelande> For now probably most important is to keep tacker on Neutron radar so people knows about it and to make clear what people can excpect for kilo, then make sure to deliver that. 05:27:37 <s3wong> bmelande: +1 05:28:29 <s3wong> bmelande: yamahata is so upset that he quitted the meeting :-) 05:28:42 <bmelande> s3wong: :-) 05:28:57 <yamahata> Oops. wifi was unstable 05:28:59 <yamahata> sorry 05:29:01 <yamahata> #char s3wong bmelande 05:29:03 <yamahata> #chair s3wong bmelande 05:29:04 <openstack> Current chairs: bmelande s3wong yamahata 05:29:22 <s3wong> yamahata: it is OK, we only have one minute left anyway :-) 05:30:10 <yamahata> Did I miss something important? 05:30:15 <yamahata> Do we have any other items? 05:30:45 <s3wong> yamahata: no, you came back quickly, and didn't miss much 05:31:21 <yamahata> thanks, it's time up. 05:31:34 <yamahata> see you next week. 05:31:46 <s3wong> see you guys next week. Thanks! 05:31:48 <bmelande> Ok, let's put items on the ehterpatd 05:31:54 <bmelande> Bye! 05:31:56 <yamahata> bye 05:31:58 <s3wong> bmelande: yes 05:31:58 <yamahata> #endmeeting