17:00:09 #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting 17:00:10 Meeting started Tue Nov 3 17:00:09 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is devkulkarni. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:00:11 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 17:00:13 The meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting' 17:00:16 #topic Roll Call 17:00:20 Devdatta Kulkarni 17:00:21 ed cranford 17:00:27 hi datsun180b 17:00:33 howdy 17:00:33 nice to see you 17:00:51 and you. surely it's not just the two of us today? 17:00:52 lets give few minutes for folks to join 17:01:07 no, I think folks are wrapping up other meeting 17:01:11 meetings 17:01:23 I know that magnum meeting is just before our meeting 17:02:30 hi muralia 17:02:39 hey dev. 17:02:48 datsun180b is here too 17:03:17 I was saying that lets wait for couple of minutes to allow folks to join in 17:03:24 in the mean while, here is agenda for today: 17:03:27 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Agenda_for_2015-11-03_1700_UTC 17:05:47 alright. I will get started 17:06:08 so first up is the Tokyo summit 17:06:16 #Announcement 17:06:21 Mitaka summit experience 17:06:39 So it was a good summit for me 17:07:07 Unlike Atlanta, where we all had attended several Solum discussion sessions, there was only one session for Solum this time 17:07:23 About 20 folks had rsvped 17:07:36 #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/tokyo-2015/schedule/design-summit 17:07:52 not all of them came to the session 17:08:04 but few did show up 17:08:11 nice 17:08:35 and we had good discussion about Solum's current capabilities and the kind of use cases they were trying to address 17:08:38 hi vijendar 17:08:41 did any of the old contributors show up? 17:08:42 we have just got started 17:08:45 hi all 17:09:02 no, unfortunately I did not see any of the old folks 17:09:21 in fact I did not find any familiar faces throughout the summit in any of the sessions 17:09:30 that was actually surprising to me 17:09:32 hi pt_15 17:09:38 we have just got started 17:09:46 the summit venue was distributed 17:09:49 hi devkulkarni 17:10:07 the design sessions were in one hotel, while the talks/presentations were in a different hotel 17:10:21 I was mostly attending the talks/presentations 17:10:41 except for our solum session which was scheduled in the hotel where design summit was being held 17:11:27 I saw that there were several talks focussing on some variation of paas, ci/cd, source code to deployment, application containers, container scheduling, container security, etc. 17:11:39 I attended almost all of these 17:12:40 seeing that folks are building custom solutions for application deployment using containers, I felt that solum would be a very attractive solution for such groups/folks 17:12:56 so I have already reached to out some of them 17:13:06 and will reach out to others today/tomorrow 17:13:35 explaining the current solum features/capabilities, how it is built around all the native openstack services 17:14:02 so in that sense it was exciting 17:14:32 ya 17:14:33 lets see if we can get some of these folks on board with either using solum or contributing to it 17:14:51 which brings me to my presentation 17:15:21 the main point that I made was to explain the value proposition of solum and an appeal to operators and developers to give it a try 17:15:35 I have uploaded the presentation to slideshare 17:15:38 #link http://www.slideshare.net/devkulkarni/solum-openstack-paas-alm 17:16:03 before leaving for the summit, I was also able to cut a video of the latest capabilities 17:16:17 check out the video whenever you get a chance 17:16:19 #link https://vimeo.com/143425822 17:16:47 datsun180b you would be happy to see that the demo video contains workflow example 17:16:56 nice 17:17:00 yep 17:17:23 I might do a short write up on summit experience, impressions, thoughts 17:17:56 also to include some of the talks that I think some of you would be really interested in 17:18:15 for instance, there was talk by ibm folks on docker security 17:18:53 it was very relevant to the kind of issues that we had encountered in solum-worker for building LPs and DUs 17:19:02 you all will find it very interesting 17:19:27 cool 17:19:42 looking forward to it. were those talks recorded? 17:21:29 sorry, machine just restarted 17:21:33 muralia: yes 17:21:39 ok good 17:21:39 that talk was recorded 17:21:47 only the design summit sessions/talks were not recorded 17:21:56 so solum talk is not recorded 17:22:30 alright, ping me if you want to more about the summit from solum pov 17:22:53 next announcement is 17:22:56 Bug cleanup 17:23:02 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bugs?orderby=status&start=0 17:23:17 Yesterday I spent some time going through our bug list in solum 17:23:24 and cleaned it up 17:23:36 now every bug has a tag 17:23:55 I have added tags such as 'solum-api', solum-worker, etc. 17:24:32 these basically indicate the service the bug is supposed to be either present or should be addressed in 17:24:59 vijendar, pt_15: I would encourage you to use the tags to filter the bugs 17:25:44 imo, the bugs which are tagged solum-*, functional-tests, and documentation are probably the most important one for us right now 17:25:45 devananda: sure. thanks for cleanup 17:26:04 devkulkarni: ^^ 17:26:05 vijendar: np. actually is was good that you asked me about it 17:26:05 devkulkarni: ok, sure :) 17:26:59 actually while we are discussing about bugs, I want to jump ahead and check about a topic that I have listed in open discussion 17:27:47 I was thinking that, now that we have bugs curated, what do you all feel about a bug squash day/half-day sometime before the end of the year? 17:28:23 especially, muralia and datsun180b, do you guys might have half day may for this event? 17:28:42 devkulkarni: sound good to me 17:29:01 I could check if we can arrange something in racker rally room in austin office for those of us who are in austin 17:29:02 sure. i can help 17:29:19 cool.. that is awesome muralia and vijendar 17:29:42 datsun180b: how about you? any chance this might work for you? 17:30:03 i don't know that I'll be able to lean in on that 17:30:19 sure datsun180b 17:30:26 I can understand 17:30:55 muralia, vijendar: let me check with james_li as well if he might be interested/available 17:31:52 ok 17:32:08 alright. this is good. datsun180b you can join us if you have time.. 17:32:16 we will be on irc as well 17:32:29 so pt_15 you can join us as well if you have time 17:32:46 I will propose couple of days and send out an email 17:32:51 devkulkarni: sure, that would be great! :D 17:34:23 muralia, vijendar: for me, preferred date is sometime before November 25th. I will be traveling to India from thanks giving onwards and will be back in Austin after new years. I will be working from Pune for couple of weeks. so it should be okay if we plan something in december. But if we plan something before november 25th, we can all be in racker rally room hacking together 17:35:09 let me know if sometime before november 25th would work for you 17:35:17 don't have to be right now 17:35:30 you can let me know sometime in next couple of days 17:35:34 ok 17:35:36 ok 17:35:48 cool.. thanks muralia, vijendar 17:36:01 alright, lets move on to next topic 17:36:13 #topic Review Action Items 17:36:23 devkulkarni to figure out how to retire solum readthedocs 17:36:32 this is still pending 17:36:37 will carry it forward 17:36:47 #action devkulkarni to figure out how to retire solum readthedocs 17:37:04 #topic Blueprint/Bug Review and Discussion 17:37:13 1) Gate is broken 17:37:32 looks like the devstack gate is still broken 17:37:38 yes 17:38:00 devkulkarni: are you going to look into that? 17:38:14 vijendar do you have the link for your patch for which dvsm is failing? 17:38:28 vijendar: yes, I will be looking into it today/tomorrow 17:38:57 muralia, datsun180b: in the meanwhile, please review the log patches submitted by vijendar 17:38:59 on api and cli 17:39:06 sure 17:39:26 I would like to get them merged soon 17:39:31 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237088/ 17:39:43 this one is failing the devstack gate 17:39:56 that is the last thing remaining before we can call the app and workflow resource implementation done 17:40:13 will wait for +1 from jenkins 17:40:39 looks like some recent devstack failures are due to the deprecation of devstack/libs and devstack/extras.d 17:41:37 datsun180b: which one in particular? we know that that deprecation is going to eventually cause solum to break, but that is still about 4 to 5 weeks out 17:41:58 the gate failure just before the summit week was due to tempest-lib 17:42:08 http://logs.openstack.org/46/239446/2/check/gate-solum-devstack-dsvm/07f99e8/console.html.gz just picked the first failed review and looked through the logs 17:42:28 there's some complaining that those two directories no longer exist 17:43:28 datsun180b: ok, I see that error 17:43:51 that is easy to fix 17:44:15 I thought I had fixed it in my patch before the summit 17:44:21 let me check 17:44:29 that might just be an old review that hasn't been refreshed since 17:45:02 https://github.com/openstack/solum/blob/master/functionaltests/pre_test_hook.sh 17:45:20 no, it has been removed 17:45:29 I mean't, no it has not been removed 17:46:05 we are not using barbican right now, so I might just remove those lines 17:46:38 datsun180b: although, I don't think those errors are what vijendar's patch is failing on 17:46:59 which of vijendar's patches? 17:47:35 #link http://logs.openstack.org/88/237088/4/check/gate-solum-devstack-dsvm/758dd7d/ 17:48:18 response = ask('Proceed (y/n)? ', ('y', 'n')) 17:48:21 well that's something 17:48:42 looks like pip thinks it's running in an interactive terminal 17:49:07 yeah, I had seen that in my patch to upgrade tempest-lib 17:49:29 it's the pip cache on jenkins 17:49:30 but the job was proceeding forward 17:49:56 /home/jenkins/.cache/pip/http 17:50:28 so you are saying, we should use pip install with no interaction option and a flag that indicates cache should not be used? 17:50:40 well maybe it's a red herring 17:50:50 no, I think it is a good suggestion 17:51:04 at least something to begin with 17:51:14 I will try it as the first option 17:51:23 these logs have captured the request and response content in stdout, what's with that 17:51:24 also, will get rid of barbican lines 17:51:47 must be tempest I guess 17:51:55 yeah, I had noticed that.. looks like tempest-lib is spitting them out 17:51:57 yeah 17:52:33 alright, I think this was good discussion datsun180b 17:52:52 just couple more points for today 17:52:53 looks like it's just IndexOutOfRange during lp delete 17:53:16 datsun180b: yes, it was that I remember 17:53:29 but that error must be happening due to some other issue 17:53:38 as those tests have been working fine 17:54:19 still, will look closely at what is going on 17:54:37 we need to fix the gate asap so that vijendar and pt_15's patches can land 17:55:02 the last topic that I had was about solum-release 17:55:30 there have been lot of changes to the way release management is being planned for the mitaka cycle 17:55:42 you must have seen emails from dhellman in this regard 17:56:22 I am thinking of tagging a release of solum and python-solumclient once we land vijendar's patches 17:56:39 that will logically complete the app and workflow transition work 17:57:01 so that was all I had 17:57:10 #topic Open Discussion 17:57:34 pt_15: how is your devstack setup coming along? 17:57:44 vijendar: is devstack working for you? 17:57:59 devkulkarni: yes. it is working 17:58:05 cool 17:58:29 devkulkarni: I haven't been able to try out the alternate method yet, I will try it out this week 17:58:43 pt_15: sure, sounds good 17:59:15 ping me if you are running into issues 17:59:45 devkulkarni: sure, I will :) 17:59:46 based on what vijendar tried, I know that straight vagrant is now back to working condition 18:00:18 so if you have a machine that has enough memory and good network connectivity then vagrant would be easiest 18:00:29 vijendar: how much memory are you allocating to your vagrant vm? 18:00:49 7GB 18:00:54 I see 18:01:09 pt_15: you can try setting your vagrant file's vm setting to that 18:01:14 and see if it works for you 18:01:24 alright, we are past the meeting hour 18:01:29 see you in solum 18:01:38 thanks everyone for attending today 18:01:42 #endmeeting