20:00:24 #startmeeting stable 20:00:24 Meeting started Mon Mar 14 20:00:24 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mriedem. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:00:25 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 20:00:28 The meeting name has been set to 'stable' 20:00:39 hi, is anyone around? 20:01:07 tonyb: mtreinish: dhellmann: ttx: mrunge: jokke_: flaper87: Daviey: ? 20:02:02 * mriedem waits awhile 20:08:10 o/ 20:08:22 do we have a quorum?! 20:08:42 rockyg: if you're willing to listen, i'm willing to go throug the agenda :) 20:09:12 I'm willing to listen...if you feel like typing ;-) 20:09:17 then let's do this! 20:09:20 #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/StableTeam#Agenda 20:09:30 #topic status 20:09:35 #link known issues https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stable-tracker 20:09:55 big things last week were (1) trove on liberty, and (2) ceilometer/oslo.db on kilo 20:09:59 both are more or less resolved 20:10:20 so, half yay? 20:10:41 mostly yay 20:10:52 even better. 20:11:07 yeah 20:11:20 there is a change up to reset upper-constraints in liberty for oslo.config: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282347/ 20:11:29 #link oslo.config reset for liberty upper-constraints https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282347/ 20:11:35 i haven't gone through that yet 20:11:45 If I recall correctly, Trove needs to decide whether it gets the tag "follows integrated release" or whatever that tag is. Policy 20:11:50 * anteaya is here too 20:11:59 rockyg: the stable:follows-policy taG? 20:12:16 rockyg: they haven't proposed for that tag yet, 20:12:28 rockyg: but as of last week it would have been a -1 b/c of the backward compat changes they made in mitaka, 20:12:35 which we spent most of last week reverting 20:12:36 Yeah. That one. Too many tags floating 'round to remember them all precisely 20:12:59 #topic Action items from previous meeting 20:13:04 mriedem to check which projects haven't done a stable/liberty release since m-1 20:13:05 Right. They haven't been following. They need to decide whether they will. 20:13:24 so i've failed to do that check from last week, 20:13:30 Really need to get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270273/ cleaned up to automate this. 20:13:58 #help need to get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270273/ cleaned up to help automate checking for unrelated stable branch changes 20:14:05 #topic Release News 20:14:17 Nova and Ceilometer need to do a stable/kilo release (Nova has a CVE fix and Ceilometer released a regression). Does Daviey organize a mass stable/kilo release or should we just release those two projects? Note we plan on talking about Kilo EOL dates at the summit. 20:14:32 In the before-times we released en masse on pre-scheduled dates. Should we still do that even though we know we have CVE and breaking fixes? 20:14:55 by default, for kilo, i'm assuming we're waiting until the next scheduled mass release 20:15:05 i really need to talk to ttx and dhellmann about that 20:15:13 * anteaya nods 20:15:18 #action mriedem to talk to Daviey, ttx and dhellmann about a stable/kilo release 20:15:28 yes sounds like we have outgrown that model 20:15:31 With the bug hackathon, there may have been more backports. Should check on the status of all projects before deciding mass or specific releases 20:16:07 rockyg: if we know we're going to do a kilo release, it would be good to flush out what is available and we want to get in, 20:16:21 but nova does have a cve fix and ceilometer has a regression fix from the last kilo release 20:16:22 Isn't kilo security only? Or has that changed 20:16:34 kilo is security / critical fix only 20:16:42 Ah. Thanks. 20:16:46 but low risk / high user impact things make their way in at times 20:17:09 #topic tagging 20:17:16 Worth checking to see if any other project has candidates 20:17:24 #info projects still need to apply for the stable:follows-policy tag http://governance.openstack.org/reference/tags/stable_follows-policy.html 20:17:39 How many projects have it so far? 20:17:45 #link open stable:follows-policy reviews https://review.openstack.org/#/q/%22stable:follows-policy%22 20:17:48 rockyg: 0 20:17:54 there are 5 reviews up 20:18:15 nova, neutron, glance, horizon, django_openstack_auth 20:18:56 Do the projects have to specify whether their python clients also follow, or is it assumed or? 20:19:02 #action mriedem to start prodding other projects like keystone and cinder to apply for the stable:follows-policy tag 20:19:15 rockyg: it's calld out specifically in the governance repo 20:19:25 the neutron one is hairy b/c of the stadium 20:19:41 Stadium is getting smaller, fortunately 20:20:04 yeah, ihar proposed that they hold off on the tag until the stadium discussion is wrapped up 20:20:12 i suggested they at least start with tagging neutron and neutronclient 20:20:15 keep it small and build out 20:20:18 +1 to that 20:20:38 to both 20:20:40 #topic tooling 20:20:51 really only one new thing here, 20:20:53 reviewstats; there is a 'stable' group but it's only for stable-maint-core, there isn't an easy way (that I can see) to check for stable branch reviewers on a given project (would have to add it). 20:21:13 I started playing with reviewstats last week and that's ^ what i found 20:21:35 which isn't bad for stable-maint-core stats, but isn't helpful for individual -stable-maint teams 20:21:53 it also doesn't handle gerrit group inheritance, 20:21:59 which is probably an easy enough thing to fix 20:22:17 #topic Open discussion 20:22:27 two things here 20:22:28 1. FYI, etherpad on stable branch EOL policy discussion for summit (please don't hack this up yet):https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stable-branch-eol-policy-newton 20:22:43 that was my brain dump from last friday 20:23:37 I'll read it over without disturbing. Thanks for posting it. 20:23:45 it's what i'll be using for the fishbowl session at the summit with the infra/qa/vmt teams 20:23:47 np 20:24:45 2. my intentions for stable PTL for newton http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/089289.html 20:25:07 so i'm running for nova PTL for newton, 20:25:24 which is why i didn't put up a candidacy for stable PTL 20:25:38 but if no one else does, it sounds like it would most likely come back to me anyway 20:25:42 Oooh! Congratz. 20:25:44 and i'm fine with that 20:26:13 so this is just an FYI 20:26:33 did anyone else have anything for today? 20:26:33 I suspect jokke_ will put in for stable, especially if no one else does. 20:26:48 I don't have anything 20:27:05 ok, let's wrap up early then, thanks for attending 20:27:08 #endmeeting