21:02:31 #startmeeting stable 21:02:32 Meeting started Mon Jan 2 21:02:31 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tonyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:02:33 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 21:02:35 The meeting name has been set to 'stable' 21:02:55 Anyone for the first stable meeting of 2017? 21:08:02 tonyb: I'm floating around on IRC, does that count? 21:08:37 clarkb: Sure 21:09:13 clarkb: bonus points if you have a topic for the stable team ... other than EOL'ing liberty 21:09:33 I don't really 21:10:38 clarkb: with your infra core team hat on ... 21:11:24 when we EOL devstack/requirements etc any unit tests with u-c support will be broken and any dsvm jobs will fallback to testing master 21:11:44 clarkb: would that earn me negative brownie points? 21:12:59 that will only affect projects taht are "integrated" but somehow wanting to keep the old branch alive right? I don't think its an issue 21:13:02 clarkb: My challenge (and the reason I haven't yet EOL'd kilo in devstack/requirement) is some projects still want kilo branches but have testing that requires $stuff and I don't want to ruin that gate / create a "we don't really know what we're testing situation" 21:13:35 clarkb: okay, the main project that wants it is group-based-policy 21:13:46 so not an integrated project 21:14:08 from infras perspective we have already cleaned out stuff like dsvm jobs that only run against old branches 21:14:17 because they aren't expected to work due to devstack doing 'sorry' 21:15:01 clarkb: okay. 21:15:39 clarkb: when I warm up for the year I'll check what that means for GBP ... 10 days AFK is good but takes a long time to page stuff back in ;P 21:15:56 I think if projects want to have that then they need to step up to do the work to extend the time frame releases are supported for 21:16:07 and you probably know better than anyone how much effort is required 21:16:34 :) 21:17:23 well unit tests are easy it's just a local commit to s,?h=stable/liberty,?h=liberty-eol, 21:17:36 but dsvm etc are as you say lots of effort 21:21:31 clarkb: Thanks for you thoughts. I have enough data to progress now.w 21:24:33 I think that's probably all we'll have for today ... I'll be in $all-the-channels if somethign comes up 21:24:37 #endmeeting