15:01:27 <Zara> #startmeeting StoryBoard
15:01:28 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Jan 13 15:01:27 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is Zara. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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15:01:32 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'storyboard'
15:01:53 <Zara> #topic Announcements
15:02:06 <Zara> nothing on agenda; anyone have anything to announce?
15:02:10 <SotK> _o_
15:02:21 <Zara> in that case, let's move on!
15:02:28 <Zara> #topic Urgent Items
15:02:54 <Zara> nothing on agenda but I think two things should be. 1) SotK has just sent a very interesting patch
15:03:27 <Zara> can potentially speed up storyboard... 17.5 times. #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266961/
15:03:59 <Zara> am very excited about it, and the faster it's tested the better! =D
15:04:45 <betherly> i noticed in the storyboard channel that it could have broken tests. is it worth me waiting for the go ahead to review the code?
15:04:45 <Zara> thing number 2: the first email notification will start once we make all the templates. these are WIP, but I'm hitting some walls
15:05:20 <Zara> betherly: yes, though I'd suggest waiting until the tests finish,  rather than waiting for us specifically to say 'go for it!' :)
15:05:33 <betherly> Zara: ok cool thanks
15:05:43 <Zara> :)
15:06:12 <Zara> so yeah, templates so far are here: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:zara.zaimeche%2540codethink.co.uk+status:open and I've mentioned a few things in the channel if people want to read backscroll, etc
15:06:19 <SotK> it'll probably be fine, I just haven't run the test suite because my set up makes that a little difficult :)
15:07:19 <Zara> I believe that after the email templates are merged, we just need to merge the button in the webclient, and users will be able to trial email notifications. is that right?
15:07:39 <SotK> yeah
15:07:55 <Zara> \o/ my understanding so far: we're missing templates for task deletion and user comments, and the other templates in review need some improvements.
15:08:26 <Zara> but I think these could be finished by the end of the week.
15:09:07 <Zara> I can be a bit optimistic but that opinion is why I'm marking it urgent! :) any help on these would be great.
15:09:23 <Zara> does anyone have anything else?
15:10:04 <SotK> _o_
15:10:25 <Zara> #info Zara would like help on email templates since they're nearly there!
15:10:29 <Zara> okay, moving on
15:10:37 <Zara> #topic In Progress Work
15:10:45 <Zara> always lots of this...
15:11:06 <Zara> I gather Worklists and Boards are getting some dramatic improvements
15:11:20 <SotK> well, adding cards to them is :)
15:11:39 <Zara> well that's the bit which needs it!
15:11:57 <SotK> I'm almost ready to send a patch for that, but it wasn't very nice to use with the stories API being slow
15:12:11 <Zara> excellent \o/
15:12:54 <SotK> I also plan to speed up loading of boards and worklists soon too
15:13:13 <SotK> since they currently take a little while to be populated
15:13:25 <Zara> cool. :) this patch is currently waiting in review btw:
15:13:28 <Zara> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263728/
15:13:51 <Zara> #info worklists and boards are getting lots of UX fixes, bit by bit.
15:14:44 <Zara> the agenda says that SotK has been working on emails, but that's been me this week
15:14:55 <Zara> as y'all can probably tell from my cries for help :D
15:15:01 <SotK> :D
15:15:57 <Zara> So far we have templates for tasks, tags, and stories in review. we're missing task-deletion and user comments. (and the ones we do have need some work)
15:16:09 <Zara> *the ones we have
15:16:50 <Zara> I've gone into some detail about my confusion in #storyboard so I won't repeat it here
15:17:52 <Zara> #info Zara has been working on email templates, with mixed results
15:18:11 <Zara> The other thing we have listed is the roadmap-- I've finally got round to updating it to match current status of emails!
15:18:37 <SotK> \o/
15:19:13 <Zara> that can hopefully serve as a refresher for anyone who's wondering 'why templates?'. the formatting's still a bit ugly. I think the timeline events vs recent events stuff may need a bit of tweaking
15:19:38 <Zara> but it's not urgent compared to other work atm, so I'm sticking it on my backlog
15:20:10 <Zara> #info spec'n'roadmap finally updated
15:20:14 <Zara> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StoryBoard/Notifications
15:20:26 <Zara> any other In Progress work?
15:20:51 <SotK> _o_
15:21:02 <Zara> #topic Discussion Topics
15:21:07 <Zara> Nothing listed, so...
15:21:13 <Zara> #topic Open Discussion
15:21:17 <Zara> anyone have anything?
15:22:33 <SotK> _o_
15:23:39 <Zara> so in general, I think it looks like we have to continue juggling development on worklists/boards and emails, but emails should be less urgent once we get the rudimentary version through. until then, our work there so far is invisible.
15:24:08 * SotK would like to look at the links-in-tasks stuff soon
15:24:14 <Zara> yeah, me too
15:24:23 <Zara> I see that as helping with worklists and boards, too
15:25:06 <Zara> my personal map is 'emails, then links in tasks while we get feedback on emails, then back to emails'
15:25:32 <Zara> along with everything else probably lol
15:26:02 <SotK> :D
15:26:22 <Zara> oh yeah, I know what I completely forgot!
15:26:54 <Zara> We have a storyboard meetup planned for the 17th (and maybe 18th) Feb. still very much in the planning stage
15:27:12 <Zara> etherpad here: #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/StoryBoard_Mitaka_Midcycle
15:27:37 <Zara> it clashes with the UX midcycle, so it'd be good to arrange something separately with UX folks if they're interested
15:29:24 <Zara> I think storyboard could use more UX input, given neither myself nor SotK really have a UX background. and the webclient has a buglist of UX issues which might be of interest to the UX team more generally.
15:31:32 * SotK thinks so too
15:31:33 <Zara> eg: it'd good to work together on some things from this story: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/85 , though I don't think SotK or I can prioritise it atm
15:36:09 <Zara> given that there's been a lot of interest in the idea of uploading pictures for bug reports, ux mocks etc. atm we have to hotlink from elsewhere via img tags. It'd be nice to have something a bit more easily customisable-- but I'm limited by a lack of experience and time atm.
15:36:37 * SotK also doesn't have time at the moment
15:36:59 <Zara> so if UX developers are interested in this feature, it'd be good to colloborate. if nobody is, then that's also worth letting people know about.
15:40:14 <Zara> people submitting bugs have definitely been interested. can't say I've heard anything from ux people directly, but that might be because they use other tools.
15:40:53 <betherly> i would be up for collaborating on the ux side (sorry late response there)
15:41:10 <betherly> i just need to get more involved to be sure of specific input requirements from that side
15:41:25 <betherly> are we working with any design work at all atm?
15:41:37 <SotK> not that I'm aware of
15:42:20 <Zara> yeah, not as far as I know. these are things I've heard a few times in infra, but it always seems to be from other people!
15:42:46 <Zara> though part of that might be because we haven't been collaborating on that so far.
15:43:05 <Zara> heh, I'm not even sure of the specific requirements so far, so that makes perfect sense to me. :)
15:43:31 <Zara> I'd say the best thing might be getting a storyboard development vm running as a first step, but it depends what other commitments you have
15:43:57 <Zara> (and no problem about the late response!)
15:44:58 <Zara> atm the requirements I *can* give are 'review webclient patches to see if you catch bad UX that we miss'
15:45:02 <Zara> but that's not that exciting
15:45:38 <Zara> I guess there's both the UX of storyboard, and storyboard as a tool for people working on UX
15:46:44 <Zara> so yeah, flagging up dodgy things and reviewing patches should be sufficient for the former, the latter is still pretty vague to me, but you might be able to help seeing what needs to be done! :D
15:46:59 <betherly> Zara: my aim is to get storyboard running properly next week now that the plugin project is almost up and running properly
15:47:05 <Zara> \o/
15:47:24 <Zara> I'll make sure to be free then so I can help as much with that as possible. :)
15:47:37 <betherly> ok great
15:48:23 <Zara> anyone have anything else?
15:48:31 <SotK> _o_
15:49:19 * Zara tries to think if there's anything left
15:49:49 <Zara> SotK has a few patches in review, so I'll just link to the list because I'm lazy
15:49:53 <Zara> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:adam.coldrick%2540codethink.co.uk+status:open
15:51:17 <Zara> okay, think we're at the end! Thanks, everyone! :) glad the Ironic plugin is going well, btw.
15:52:20 * Zara is in awe of Horizon in general
15:52:22 <Zara> anyway
15:52:25 <Zara> #endmeeting