19:00:46 <Zara> #startmeeting storyboard
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19:00:50 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'storyboard'
19:01:04 <Zara> #topic Announcements
19:01:12 <Zara> #info OUR MEETING HAS MOVED TO NOW
19:01:26 <Zara> that may be the lowest-quality announcement ever
19:01:28 <Zara> but I don't care
19:01:39 <Zara> I don't think we have anything else to announce
19:01:53 <Zara> #topic Urgent Items
19:02:03 <Zara> Nothing on the agenda
19:02:22 <Zara> #topic In-progress work
19:02:31 <Zara> A few things on the agenda here
19:02:40 <Zara> I have updating webclient components
19:02:53 <Zara> #info Zara is slowly but steadily updating the webclient components
19:02:53 * SotK goes to find the agenda
19:02:57 <Zara> oh, sorry
19:03:04 <Zara> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/StoryBoard#Agenda_for_next_meeting
19:03:08 <Zara> there you go
19:03:41 <SotK> ty :)
19:03:47 <SotK> I have permissions on there
19:03:55 <SotK> I've not done anything more on that this week
19:04:11 <SotK> but I have reworked that row padding patch
19:04:18 <Zara> yessss, thank you
19:04:39 <Zara> that is
19:04:42 <Zara> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393500/
19:04:54 <Zara> kanban cards display a bit oddly at the moment, which is my fault
19:04:58 <Zara> that patch fixes it
19:05:35 <Zara> so yeah, SotK tidied up after me, which is much-appreciated
19:05:53 <SotK> I don't think I've actually done much else :/
19:05:55 <Zara> it'd be good to get more eyes on it; I've tested and it seems fine
19:06:15 <SotK> I'll look at the permissions stuff as soon as I can
19:06:25 <Zara> so now I'm just sad every time I see the messy cards and want it merged asap
19:06:32 <Zara> SotK: sure, np, permissions are never fun
19:06:38 <SotK> oh there is also something else I said I would rework
19:06:41 <Zara> so I'm not relishing the prospect of reviewing those
19:06:44 <Zara> :P
19:07:03 <SotK> this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/389997/
19:07:11 <SotK> I will rework that first
19:07:19 <SotK> then we can get the search stuff moving a bit
19:07:21 <Zara> oh yeah, there are a couple of things around htat
19:07:22 <Zara> *that
19:07:24 <Zara> yes
19:07:31 <Zara> I agree
19:07:40 * SotK had forgotten he'd said he'd rework that and thought it was waiting on reviews or something
19:07:48 <Zara> oh, sorry, I should've poked
19:07:55 <SotK> no worries :)
19:07:59 <Zara> I left a comment but forgot you ignore emails there
19:08:07 <Zara> but I do know that, so that's also on me xD
19:08:32 <Zara> we've updated bootstrap for the webclient, which seems fine so far
19:08:57 <Zara> so now, I've got carried away
19:09:03 <Zara> and want to update angular next
19:09:05 <Zara> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/384532/
19:09:16 <Zara> that just has some +1s
19:09:25 <Zara> I have tested it, but more eyes is always good
19:09:36 <Zara> it's quite a big jump
19:09:39 <SotK> I'll have a look at some point
19:09:40 <Zara> but it's long-overdue
19:09:42 <Zara> thanks
19:09:55 <Zara> there will be a bunch of similarly dull patches from me updating webclient things
19:10:01 <Zara> since I figure, ocata is a maintenance cycle anyway
19:10:49 <Zara> so that's where that's at :)
19:11:04 <Zara> okay, so other thing I have listed in in-progress work is the removal of incubated oslo code
19:11:07 <Zara> which is going well!
19:11:20 <Zara> I *think* we only have some left in the python client at this point
19:11:49 <SotK> \o/
19:11:58 <Zara> I haven't had time to test it yet, and I figured it was likely to cause the most chaos in the python client, so that one's waiting on me to review
19:12:15 <Zara> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/395116/
19:13:02 <Zara> well, I'm not the only one who can review it, but I'd assume it was for me to do unless I heard otherwise
19:13:42 <Zara> I've procrastinated since I'm not running the client from the repo, but from an installation, but hopefully I'll fix that later this week
19:13:57 <Zara> poke me if it lingers
19:14:05 <SotK> ok :)
19:14:11 <Zara> Thanks. :) Do we have anything else?
19:14:20 <SotK> I don't know of anything
19:14:49 <Zara> oh, there are some things in review that I've been ignoring because they failed tests
19:14:53 <Zara> but the test failure was weird
19:15:06 <SotK> which things?
19:15:20 <Zara> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/387079/
19:15:31 <Zara> and its related changes
19:16:15 <SotK> oh that one
19:16:28 <Zara> hah
19:16:29 <SotK> when I get time I'll try more things to fix that test
19:16:49 <Zara> it doesn't seem too urgent, might point at something worse going on
19:17:00 <Zara> but yeah I'm wary of you giving yourself too much to do.
19:17:11 <Zara> I had no ideas when looking at the failure
19:17:45 <SotK> I think its just our tests being dumb
19:18:01 <Zara> so for now I'm noting that we're aware of it, and that I'm not currently looking at it.
19:18:41 <Zara> other things...
19:18:56 <Zara> oh yeah, the test openid server!
19:18:59 <Zara> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/397998/
19:19:14 <Zara> jeblair has sent a patch for a mini test openid server that can be used when developing
19:19:29 <Zara> currently failing pep8, but hopefully we can use it soonish
19:19:59 <Zara> this is nice because you can test features when you have no internet access, or (as he pointed out earlier today) as users with different permissions
19:20:15 <Zara> so you can, say, see how the admin layout and the non-admin layout are affected by a patch
19:20:18 <SotK> oh that looked shiny
19:20:31 * SotK will get round to testing it eventually
19:21:30 <Zara> same
19:22:25 <Zara> anything else in-progress that I've missed?
19:22:33 * SotK can't think of anything
19:22:45 <Zara> no discussion topics noted, so on to...
19:22:48 <Zara> #open discussion
19:22:50 <Zara> erm
19:22:54 <Zara> #topic open discussion
19:22:57 <Zara> there
19:24:21 <SotK> :D
19:24:26 <Zara> I should be meeting with diablo_rojo soon to talk about task-tracking cross-project needs and soforth
19:25:31 <Zara> so will keep folk updated there
19:25:46 <SotK> sounds exciting
19:26:50 <Zara> :)
19:27:51 <Zara> so yep, I'm also going to be away Mon-Tues
19:28:13 * diablo_rojo sneaks in late
19:28:16 <Zara> hi! :D
19:28:55 <Zara> er, I mean, 'hello person who has been here for the whole time because no sneaking occurred'
19:29:01 <Zara> for it was a very convincing sneak
19:29:09 <diablo_rojo> I am pretty ninja
19:29:14 <Zara> :)
19:29:20 <SotK> can confirm, I didn't notice a thing
19:29:22 <diablo_rojo> It'll be good to touch base on all the things next week though.
19:29:26 <Zara> yep
19:29:32 <diablo_rojo> In person anyway.
19:29:34 * SotK apologises for not being there
19:29:49 <Zara> it's okay, I'll just pretend to be you at weird moments
19:30:06 <Zara> stand on chairs and things so I'm taller, etc
19:30:21 <diablo_rojo> Ha ha ha
19:30:45 <diablo_rojo> I am trying to figure how to go about identifying stakeholders
19:31:10 <diablo_rojo> Thinking I might just start messaging the PTL's and seeing what they think they need out of storyboard before they move
19:31:38 <Zara> yeah, if nothing else they should be able to point us at folk. and we should probably check in with the RDO team and see how they're getting on
19:31:44 <SotK> PTLs or people responsible for bug triage seems sensible
19:31:44 <diablo_rojo> I can draft that email today/tomorrow and get it out before the end of the week so hopefully I will have a few responses by Tuesday.
19:32:04 <Zara> oh yeah, bug triage, originally we were talking to markus_z who acted as bug czar for nova
19:32:28 <diablo_rojo> SotK, ah good point, more active launchpad users would also be a good group to get opinions from.
19:32:30 <Zara> auggy now performs that role
19:32:31 <Zara> so there's a name
19:33:00 <diablo_rojo> Zara: Cool, I'll add her to my list of people to chat with :)
19:33:16 <Zara> (+ she was at the task-tracking session so seems like the clear choice there)
19:33:32 <diablo_rojo> I  *vaguely* remember that
19:33:45 <Zara> I think she raised the issue of people posting long logs
19:33:47 <diablo_rojo> The sleep deprivation struggle was real
19:33:59 <Zara> which we thought would be mitigated by other things...
19:34:02 * Zara finds etherpad
19:34:03 <Zara> (haha)
19:34:11 <diablo_rojo> etherpad?
19:34:24 <Zara> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-infra-community-task-tracking
19:34:30 <Zara> the task tracking session one
19:35:00 <Zara> 'random backlog' section is ironically the most relevant
19:35:16 <diablo_rojo> Ha ha noted
19:38:57 <Zara> task notes on the last task here identify some target stakeholders, but these may be outdated.
19:39:00 <Zara> #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000610
19:39:30 <Zara> well, tristanC was doing RDO+storyboard things at summit
19:40:12 <Zara> and dhellman has helped us with getting rid of our incubated oslo code. :)
19:40:26 <diablo_rojo> So I should include them in the email as well?
19:42:06 <Zara> I think so. You might get more detailed info from messaging on irc.
19:43:39 <diablo_rojo> I think I am just going to make this first round really big picture and if I have questions I will catch people on irc.
19:43:45 <Zara> sure
19:43:49 <diablo_rojo> Or thats my thought anyway.
19:43:57 <diablo_rojo> Feel free to tell me if I am being dumb.
19:44:29 <SotK> sounds sensible enough to me
19:44:51 <diablo_rojo> Ha ha 'sensible enough'. I'll take it :)
19:46:10 <diablo_rojo> Anything else I should have on my todo list?
19:46:18 <SotK> heh, I meant it in a good way :)
19:46:40 <Zara> (sure, I figured following up with folk who've been identified already would save time, but I doubt it will be much and I'm all in favour of doing big picture stuff too anyway)
19:47:16 <diablo_rojo> Zara, ah got it. If they have already been talked to maybe I will do a separate email with them
19:48:32 <Zara> cool, I don't think there's anything else
19:49:06 <diablo_rojo> Cool, well I will get that done then :) If there is anything else just let me know.
19:49:16 <Zara> :) anyone have anything to discuss?
19:49:41 <SotK> I've got nothing
19:49:50 <diablo_rojo> Me neither
19:50:26 <Zara> okay, cool, we can finish early!
19:50:32 <SotK> (except pizza, which I do have)
19:50:47 <diablo_rojo> Yum.
19:51:04 <diablo_rojo> I have a bowl full of pomegranate seeds to eat.
19:51:46 * Zara can't tell if literal, or metaphorical
19:51:53 <diablo_rojo> Literal
19:51:55 <Zara> phew
19:52:01 <diablo_rojo> And I am excited
19:52:07 <diablo_rojo> Deliciousness.
19:52:10 <Zara> woop! \o/
19:52:25 <Zara> I have no food and a rumbly stomach, so should probably change both of those
19:52:40 <diablo_rojo> Zara +1
19:52:44 <Zara> :)
19:52:48 * Zara will end the meeting
19:52:50 <Zara> #endmeeting