18:59:57 <SotK> #startmeeting storyboard
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19:00:01 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'storyboard'
19:00:10 <SotK> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/StoryBoard#Agenda_for_next_meeting Agenda
19:00:25 <diablo_rojo> Hello :)
19:00:27 <SotK> #topic In Progress Work
19:00:32 <SotK> hey diablo_rojo :)
19:01:54 <SotK> so since the last meeting I started working on a patch to implement the ability to link to a partially-filled new story form
19:02:12 <Zara> o/ my clock is 2 min behind =D
19:02:14 <SotK> with support for forcing the created story to be private too
19:02:18 <SotK> :D welcome
19:02:30 <Zara> thank you! I have an enormous review backlog now
19:02:33 <SotK> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/526219/
19:02:39 <SotK> that is the current WIP
19:02:44 * fungi is late
19:02:44 <diablo_rojo> SotK, awesome! Will check it out.
19:03:17 <SotK> it doesn't actually work fully yet, I've not had much chance to improve it since last week
19:03:30 * SotK suddenly remembered that christmas is a thing that needs preparation
19:03:49 <fungi> i got to thinking about the implementation there, and i feel like it's not only a big piece of the vmt and docs need, but also goes a long way towards the more general bug reporting solution i've been hearing everyone say they want
19:04:44 <SotK> yeah, I'm hopeful it will be helpful for that
19:05:08 <SotK> since it'll allow people to create links with project-specific "bug templates" for example
19:05:44 <Zara> \o/
19:05:57 <diablo_rojo> \o/
19:06:20 <fungi> if nothing else, i think some careful application of custom reporting urls solves the "i want to report a bug, not a story" confusion
19:06:30 <Zara> yes
19:06:47 <Zara> or even 'I want to make a bug' :D
19:06:49 <fungi> though i really liked in the infra meeting yesterday when jeblair said (paraphrasing because i don't feel like looking it back up) "a bug is just a sad story"
19:07:09 <fungi> or maybe that was in the zuul meeting
19:07:23 * fungi has pre-holiday brain fog
19:07:37 <persia> I think that was infra: I think it's true, but helping folk understand that by providing custom forms is likely to be a good thng.
19:07:47 <Zara> I only realised today that I'd lost my connection to #openstack-meeting
19:07:50 <Zara> I thought it was quiet
19:08:20 <diablo_rojo> Agreed. Comically difficult for people to understand that bugs and new features are both just code changes.
19:08:44 * fungi has been trying to refer to storyboard as "defect and task tracking"
19:09:40 <persia> Perhaps more consumable than "a tool for communicating desire and intent"
19:10:11 <fungi> while most people ultimately need a task tracking system, they're operating under the assumption that what they want is a defect tracking system
19:10:17 <Zara> https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/page/about has our current blurb fwiw
19:10:30 <Zara> it mentions bugs as a subset of stories
19:10:34 <Zara> well, bug reports
19:10:54 <fungi> oh, thanks! i'd forgotten that existed. i'll try to remember to link it more often
19:11:12 <Zara> it should be the page that comes up by default when someone navigates to sb but isn't logged in iirc
19:11:19 <SotK> it is :)
19:11:22 <Zara> so that new users know what is
19:11:45 <fungi> excellent. i just never see it because i'm always following deeper links into teh webclient
19:12:50 <Zara> yeah, I had to dig to remember what it said on there, but it looks like it's up to date :)
19:14:31 <SotK> in terms of other things we have on the go, there is the patch I sent to switch to a markdown renderer that is actually maintained
19:14:34 <SotK> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/518625/
19:14:42 <SotK> it'd be good to get that merged in some form
19:15:31 * diablo_rojo puts reviews on my list today
19:15:45 * diablo_rojo puts reviews on her list today
19:16:06 <fungi> diablo_rojo: looks like you already +1'd that one
19:16:46 <SotK> diablo_rojo has reviewed all of my patches that are ready for review I think
19:16:49 <SotK> thanks btw :)
19:16:49 <fungi> +2, looks like a pretty simple change
19:17:18 <fungi> also note that mordred has pushed up a largeish (i think, haven't looked yet) webclient patch to switch up the framework a bit
19:17:41 <SotK> yeah, I'm looking forward to trying that out
19:17:54 <fungi> #link https://review.openstack.org/528436
19:18:00 <SotK> it'll be good to get our tooling up to date, thanks mordred
19:18:14 <fungi> maybe he'll reciprocate with some reviewing other webclient changes
19:18:41 <diablo_rojo> Oh sweet. Then I am actually kind of on top of things.
19:20:40 <SotK> have there been any developments in the launchpad migration since last meeting?
19:21:08 <Zara> (thanks for the links. I'm the one slowing down reviews atm I think.)
19:21:21 <Zara> (have had holidays and things, am around more now)
19:21:46 <fungi> i haven't migrated anyone new, not sure what updates diablo_rojo has on discussions to that effect for upcoming candidates
19:22:13 <SotK> Zara: whilst you're looking, there is also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307712/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/510669/ of mine that are waiting on reviews :)
19:22:50 <Zara> yeahhhh
19:23:01 <Zara> tonight with any luck
19:23:22 <Zara> maybe won't get to everything but do want that markdown parser change in asap
19:26:27 <mordred> fungi, SotK: oh - there will be more to come - that one is just the beginning ... I figure starting small is best :)
19:26:37 <SotK> excellent :D
19:26:43 <fungi> it'll be nice to modernize, thanks again mordred!
19:26:46 <persia> mordred: 5K lines is small?
19:27:27 <mordred> persia: in this case - yes
19:27:49 <fungi> at least most of that is generated code
19:28:02 <fungi> yay javascript
19:28:11 <mordred> persia: (the yarn.lock is an auto-generated file - package.json is where the important bits are)
19:28:20 <persia> Nearly all of it: the actual patch is mostly deleting stuff that shouldn't be used anymore, with a couple minor adjustments in pathnames as a result.
19:29:21 <mordred> yah. I now noticed you left a review comment/question - I should go respond to that ... but tl;dr  - yes, for applications such as storyboard-webclient the lock file is recommended to be committed
19:30:17 <mordred> perhaps I should rebase it on top of the marked patch?
19:31:13 <SotK> that would be ideal, thanks
19:31:28 <persia> Depends on the review order: the marked patch is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/518625/
19:35:23 <SotK> anything else in progress?
19:36:25 <SotK> #topic Discussion
19:36:49 <SotK> if there is anything else folk want to discuss, go ahead
19:36:57 <SotK> otherwise I will end the meeting in a few minutes
19:37:09 * fungi has nothing else
19:39:24 * Zara has nothing, I just need to get on with reviews :)
19:40:18 <SotK> well then, thanks for coming everyone!
19:40:21 <SotK> #endmeeting