19:01:12 #startmeeting storyboard 19:01:13 Meeting started Wed Sep 5 19:01:12 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SotK. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:01:15 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 19:01:17 The meeting name has been set to 'storyboard' 19:01:37 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/StoryBoard#Agenda_for_next_meeting Agenda 19:01:43 #topic Announcements 19:01:47 Migrations! 19:02:04 searchlight and freezer this time 19:02:56 yep, those happened 19:02:58 also slogging 19:03:28 and apparently we've learned that patrole moved to storyboard.o.o months ago but never let anyone know they needed bugs migrated 19:04:22 heh, I'm glad that things are continuing apace 19:05:05 #topic Migration Updates 19:05:15 anything to update diablo_rojo? 19:06:31 Ummm 19:06:40 Nothing new besides those two that migrated last week 19:06:52 Oh, and it looks like there is a QA subproject migrating soon 19:07:04 That's about all I have there. 19:07:54 patrole? 19:09:15 Yep thats the one 19:12:34 cool, hopefully others start moving a bit post-ptg 19:12:53 #topic PTG 19:13:06 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sb-stein-ptg-planning PTG Etherpad 19:13:14 Yeah I think we will have some more interest after 19:13:21 I started adding topic there 19:13:26 Feel free to add 19:13:40 And I will also schedule us for Tuesday afternoon via ptg bot. 19:14:25 thanks :) 19:14:34 I will try to consider things to add to the list 19:15:13 I won't be able to start us until 20:00 UTC 19:15:22 Will that still work for you SotK ? 19:15:44 yeah that'll be fine 19:15:50 Coool. 19:16:19 I have to cover the team photos for a half hour after lunch but then I'll be able to kick things off 19:16:32 One other PTG thing. 19:16:40 sounds good 19:16:42 People want a tutorial during lunch. 19:17:13 Any things I should cover besides like making boards, worklists (regular & automatic), stories & tasks. 19:17:47 I feel like there is a lot of stuff I could cover but I don't want to bore people for 10 minutes 19:18:35 yeah, i would keep to the basics 19:19:10 me too, that sounds like a good list 19:19:38 with prominent repetitive mention of the documentation 19:19:42 maybe some using boards/worklists (ie showing the manual ordering for regular ones) too 19:19:42 fungi, you wanna narrate while I do things? Or vice versa? I can probably do it alone, but I dunno what the setup will be if I'll have to hold a mike while computering...thats not so easy 19:19:50 fungi, yeah thats a good idea 19:20:01 happy to narrate if you have a basic outline of what you plan to do in what order 19:20:26 fungi, I can put one together today/tomorrow and we can go over it Sunday morning or something? 19:20:43 wfm, i've got no real plans before the tc stuff sunday afternoon 19:22:09 Cool, thats what I was banking on :) 19:23:16 any other ptg stuff? 19:23:25 Don't think so 19:23:37 Timing, etherpad and lunch things were all I had 19:23:53 I assume there will be a hangout link nearer the time? 19:24:20 SotK, yeah. I can probably generate one ahead of time, just havent gotten around to it yet 19:24:32 Also reminds me to put speaker/mic on my packing list 19:24:40 :D please do 19:24:52 but there is no rush for a link, obviously 19:25:41 #topic In Progress Work 19:26:31 I reviewed your patch diablo_rojo, and also fatema's api patch 19:26:36 SotK, awesome 19:26:48 I'm afraid I noticed more spots where we use the name that I didn't notice earlier 19:26:48 Yeah I saw comments, haven't gotten around to updating yet. 19:26:56 good :) 19:26:58 Hopefully will by the end of the week 19:27:23 No worries :) I appreciate the comments 19:27:31 I think the project groups by name patches are all ready for review now 19:28:00 SotK, excellent 19:28:04 * diablo_rojo adds to review list 19:28:06 also, it'd be good if someone could +A https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bugfixes+status:open please :) 19:28:23 fungi, ^^ 19:30:01 yep, those seem to be worky 19:31:33 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/599182/ is a tiny patch to fix something that I didn't notice in the UI patches we've merged so far where comments are all ugly and grey now 19:33:55 http://logs.openstack.org/82/599182/1/check/build-javascript-content/b97a581/npm/html/#!/story/1759730 looks good 19:34:22 I'm hopeful that by PTG I'll have a patch for alleviating the "rendering 1000 comments at once is bad" bug too, I was just feeling more creative than annoying-bugfixy this weekend 19:34:22 * diablo_rojo looks 19:35:02 thanks :) 19:36:12 SotK, we appreciate all of what you do :) Creative & bug-fixy alike. 19:36:47 if anyone fancies making comment on the direction that this WIP story detail layout patch is going I'd welcome it, but its not really priority atm: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/599194/ 19:36:51 heh, I'm glad 19:38:05 * diablo_rojo opens 599194 19:39:14 anything else in progress? 19:39:28 So for some weird reason I am currently unable to view logs.. 19:39:44 I updated my browser and cleared my cache and nada 19:39:57 * diablo_rojo will have to look into that later 19:40:14 you might need to accept the cert on https://storyboard-dev.openstack.org/ 19:40:24 I have to do it semi-regularly I find 19:40:56 Ah yep that did it- I've never hit that before. 19:41:25 good :) 19:41:33 #topic Open Discussion 19:41:35 ooOOoo I like the tags in the new view 19:42:01 looks like some of the events formatting is a tad screwwy, but I like it overall. 19:42:17 i'm trying to calculate "launchpad doomsday" (when our story 2000000 will collide with a bug 2000000 in lp) 19:42:20 yeah, the events are still a bit WIP 19:42:37 trending the last 100k bugs or so to see what the current rate of growth is 19:42:53 we're about 200k away from collision 19:43:13 eek 19:46:20 there is a realtively not terrible hack we could do should we hit doomsday. Add a trailing zero to all existing bugs, rewrite old numbers to new number and hand wave around where they collide (you have to use new url) 19:48:35 New urls might be painful, but a necessary evil I guess 19:48:52 that would work, except annoying for pre-doomsday links in gerrit 19:48:57 I don't have any better ideas though 19:51:07 oh Ieant do redirects for old numbers 19:51:14 that will onlu break where they collide 19:51:37 oh I see 19:51:40 yeah that makes sense 19:51:40 Oh okay thats less painful 19:52:03 lately bugs have been added to lp at a rate of roughly one every 416 seconds 19:52:42 which is far slower than i anticipated 19:53:29 unless my math is off (i need to double-check my figures) that gives us until the middle of 2021 19:53:31 Wonder what that says about the quality of OpenStack? compared to other projects? 19:54:13 Oh cool, 2021 is aways away 19:54:17 your maths matches my rough estimate 19:54:27 well, in spot-checking bug creation dates, i also noticed that many if not a mahority of the bugs being opened on lp are for openstack projects 19:55:07 so in theory the rate of bug accumulation on lp might slow noticeably as we move more projects to sb.o.o 19:55:45 That's kind of what I guessed, but I am glad we have actual data to kind of back it up 19:56:09 the potential slowing for lp is based solely on anecdata 19:57:16 but at least we seem to have more breathing room than i was worried we might 19:57:57 yeah, 2021 feels like a decent amount of space 19:58:05 Yeah 19:58:16 * diablo_rojo was thinking months-ish 19:59:28 ok we're about out of time 19:59:38 catch us in #storyboard :) 20:00:03 #endmeeting