21:00:09 <timburke_> #startmeeting swift
21:00:09 <opendevmeet> Meeting started Wed Oct 13 21:00:09 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is timburke_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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21:00:09 <opendevmeet> The meeting name has been set to 'swift'
21:00:17 <timburke_> who's here for the swift meeting?
21:00:23 <seongsoocho> o/
21:00:34 <kota> o/
21:01:33 <mattoliver> o/
21:01:56 <timburke_> as usual, the agenda's on the wiki
21:02:00 <timburke_> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift
21:02:16 <timburke_> not too much to bring up -- big thing is...
21:02:21 <timburke_> #topic PTG next week
21:02:47 <mattoliver> \o/ (I only just remember to register, felt like PTG snuck up on me).
21:02:53 <timburke_> we've got some good topics going on the etherpad
21:02:55 <timburke_> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/swift-ptg-yoga
21:03:06 <timburke_> and if you haven't already, please do register
21:03:14 <timburke_> #link https://www.eventbrite.com/e/project-teams-gathering-october-2021-tickets-161235669227
21:04:36 <timburke_> hmm... i should contact Arkady about where to meet for that first interop session
21:05:10 <timburke_> (that's at 1600 UTC on monday for anyone else interested; i'll update the etherpad when i know more)
21:05:37 <timburke_> first already-booked room is for 2100-2400 in Havana
21:06:10 <mattoliver> 1600 UTC is alittle late for me, but I can try. (3am) :)
21:06:36 <zaitcev> I don't know how important that interop thing is, but I put it on anyway.
21:06:51 <timburke_> yeah, i wouldn't worry about it mattoliver -- better to be rested for the next session ;-)
21:07:43 <kota> +1
21:07:44 <zaitcev> Our management is quite obsessed with the interop at PTG. In their eyes it is the sole justification to have a PTG at all, because otherwise the projects could just meet on their own.
21:09:21 <timburke_> zaitcev, what are your thoughts on whether we ought to push for more of our recent features being added to the interop guidelines?
21:10:20 <timburke_> i ... don't know that i care much
21:10:35 <zaitcev> timburke_: What do you have in mind, exactly? My guess is that it's always good to remind everyone in OpenStack that we're still a part, even after the attempts a year ago to make Swift a second class project.
21:10:55 <zaitcev> However, if it takes effort on your part, then whatever
21:11:37 <timburke_> idk -- we could push to add the new object versioning APIs or something
21:11:59 <zaitcev> oh, you mean to Tempest
21:13:06 <timburke_> i'm thinking of it more from the perspective of trademark issues -- being able to say something is "Swift-compatible" for example. though i think tempest does play a part in that conversation
21:13:43 <zaitcev> It was not supposed to be a conformance suite originally, but many people behave as if it was.
21:13:45 <timburke_> i suppose we'll hear more on monday :-)
21:13:50 <zaitcev> ok
21:14:17 <timburke_> any other questions or concerns about the PTG?
21:15:12 <timburke_> #topic ring v2
21:15:36 <timburke_> i just wanted to mention some progress here
21:16:04 <timburke_> i pushed up some new patches to address mattoliver's comments so far
21:17:08 <timburke_> and even rebased https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/swift/+/792075 onto it so we'll have a concrete benefit that we can look at while evaluating the lead-up
21:17:58 <zaitcev> Is that really a ring v2 patch?
21:18:17 <mattoliver> it's the end of the chain, in essence
21:18:17 <zaitcev> Oh, "and even"
21:18:42 <timburke_> yup! needs the last-primary table, which needs the new format. it's a bit of a yak
21:18:45 <zaitcev> Right, they are on the right side of the page.
21:19:31 <mattoliver> thanks for cleaning that last one up. There were a few differrent approaches I was playing with, so it kinda got littered with random code from other options while I was testing each approach.
21:19:36 <timburke_> i'm excited about the series, though -- we've got some big expansions planned, and it'd be pretty cool if we had reasonable rebalance times without needing to turn on handoffs_only
21:19:56 <mattoliver> +100
21:20:11 <timburke_> that's all i've got
21:20:18 <timburke_> #topic open discussion
21:20:29 <timburke_> what else should we bring up before the ptg?
21:21:11 <mattoliver> So it starts next week. I think good to remind (I know you did earlier), add anything you want to talk about to the etherpad
21:22:05 <mattoliver> random 1/2 baked thoughts, doesn't matter we can go through them in the first session :)
21:23:03 <timburke_> so much that ^^^
21:23:34 <timburke_> also, i'll plan another ops feedback session -- is there any particular slot that people think would work best?
21:24:27 <mattoliver> Probably better to be euro/us time focused.. although it's hard for us APAC.. just try not to make it too late
21:25:07 <mattoliver> so long as that's ok with seongsoocho as he's an APAC op.
21:25:57 <seongsoocho> 10/21 13:00 utc is better for me :)
21:26:25 <mattoliver> yup that works for me too.
21:27:01 <timburke_> i'm guessing it'll be good for our guys in taiwan, too -- i should be sure to invite them
21:27:04 <mattoliver> I wonder if we should ask reid_g if they're interested in the ops feedback session.
21:27:18 <timburke_> good idea, for sure!
21:27:22 <mattoliver> timburke_: +1
21:29:28 <timburke_> all right, i'll put together an ops feedback etherpad and tentatively plan for 10/21 for the ops feedback session
21:29:58 <zaitcev> Who else do we know? DHE?
21:31:38 <mattoliver> Yeah, we should make an announcement in the channel.. this channel
21:31:55 <timburke_> could see if sorrison is interested :-) or ormandj (though i'm not sure if i've seen him around since the move to OFTC...)
21:32:36 <mattoliver> Maybe to the mailing list too, as thats where ops may be lingering, just keeping an ear to the ground.
21:32:44 <timburke_> for sure
21:33:12 <timburke_> i think i'll call it then, and let everyone get on with their day :-)
21:33:31 <timburke_> thank you all for coming, thank you for working on swift, and i look forward to seeing you guys monday!
21:33:35 <timburke_> #endmeeting