05:31:38 <soichi> #startmeeting taas
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05:32:06 <soichi> #topic: Open Discussion
05:32:38 <soichi> do you have any update or topic for today?
05:33:21 <yamamoto> hi
05:33:33 <soichi> yamamoto: hi
05:33:40 <reedip> Yes a lot :)
05:34:29 <reedip> #1 : Can everyone please go through the spec again ? #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/256210/
05:35:15 <reedip> I am of the opinion that TaaS has been alive for some time. Maybe we can try to include it in the Big Tent soon ?
05:35:21 <reedip> Let me know your opinion
05:35:59 <soichi> yes, please. one more +2 is required.
05:36:12 <yamamoto> reedip: have you asked armax his opinion recently?
05:36:26 <yamamoto> ie which of neutron or big tent is suitable for taas
05:38:27 <reedip> yamamoto : no, I have not asked for his opinion for TaaS yet. I want to , though, but after the spec is finalized from our side and committed
05:38:30 <soichi> vnyyad: hi
05:38:39 <vnyyad> hi
05:39:05 <reedip> yamamoto , armax: I would however like to know how different is applying for Big Tent than applying for Neutron ?
05:40:46 <yamamoto> reedip: being a part of neutron means supervison from neutron folks.  eg. neutron stable maintainer
05:41:23 <reedip> yamamoto: yes right. But can TaaS apply for neutron after completing the big tent process?
05:41:52 <yamamoto> reedip: nothing prevents it i guess
05:42:29 <reedip> yamamoto : what I mean is , applying for neutron and applying for big tent are not tightly coupled, are they ? If not, can we apply for big tent and in parallel work for inclusion in the Neutron Stadium ( if that concept still exists ?)
05:43:28 <reedip> vnyyad: hi , can you look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/256210/ and provide your comments for the TaaS spec ?
05:44:06 <yamamoto> reedip: my understanding is one of those options needs to be chosen
05:45:11 <vnyyad> reedip: i had a quick look yesterday and it looked OK to me, i will however read it throughly today and get back within today
05:46:56 <reedip> yamamoto: My understanding is we can apply for Big Tent, make our project official and then work for integration with Neutron. As far as I remember, the previous TaaS Spec satisfied some of the queries for inclusion in Neutron 'stadium' . The current spec is more detailed.
05:47:40 <reedip> yamamoto: and IIUC, we can do both one after the other. But I would the opinion of other members as well as to how we plan to move forward.
05:48:15 <yamamoto> i don't have strong opinions either ways
05:49:12 <reedip> yamamoto : :) Then I would wait for opinion from soichi, kaz, vnyyad and anil_rao ( he is not here I guess)
05:50:35 <soichi> i think it is better to apply to the Neutron 'Stadium'
05:51:26 <reedip> soichi : I am also of the same opinion. My question is , should we apply directly  or after applying to big tent
05:51:45 <reedip> I mean should we try to make our project official first ?
05:51:50 <vnyyad> soichi: +1
05:52:50 <yamamoto> reedip: i'm not sure what's the point of indirect steps.
05:53:58 <soichi> i'm not sure, if TaaS included in the Neutron 'Stadium', is TaaS officially recognized?
05:54:13 <yamamoto> soichi: yes, as a part of neutron.
05:54:34 <reedip> yamamoto : TaaS is not yet in the big tent. So wanted to know if it is included as a part of Neutron Stadium, would it mean it would be a part of the Big Tent as well ?
05:56:04 <vnyyad> we need to clarify this governance thing with some one in neutron core
05:56:35 <yamamoto> reedip: if neutron is, its subprojects are.
05:58:03 <reedip> yamamoto : okay . Can we drop an email to the Neutron Core members for the review of TaaS Spec soi that it can be included in the Neutron Stadium as a subproject.
05:58:20 <reedip> yamamoto : if not, then what are the remaining items in the checklist which we need to fulfil ?
05:58:33 <soichi> i think Armando agree to TaaS is a candidate for Neutron stadium, isn't it?
05:58:49 <reedip> vnyyad , yamamoto : I would really like TaaS to be a part of Big Tent and Neutron Stadium in Ocata .
05:58:50 <reedip> :)
05:59:00 <yamamoto> reedip: i think there's a written procedure.  submit api-ref patch etc.
05:59:12 <soichi> reedip: +1
05:59:23 <reedip> yamamoto : Okay, let me search the same.
05:59:59 <reedip> Lemme ask this query in the #neutron IRC as well :)
06:00:38 <vnyyad> +1
06:00:44 <soichi> reedip: +1
06:00:52 <kaz> +1
06:01:36 <yamamoto> #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/stadium/governance.html#checklist
06:02:37 <reedip> thanks yamamoto . I will go through the checklist and float a mail today evening as to what items are remaining ( unless someone has already done the homework ?? :) )
06:03:30 <yamamoto> the biggest item is to have a test, i guess.
06:03:48 <yamamoto> it has been on our todo list too long
06:04:51 <yamamoto> another is OSC but i guess it shouldn't be too difficult.
06:05:20 <reedip> OSC has been in my ToDo list as well . Need to discuss with rtheis about including TaaS as a plugin
06:07:42 <soichi> any ather topic?
06:08:25 <soichi> we are working for performance measurement
06:08:37 <soichi> we are planning to compare overhead of "shared tunnel (original design)", "dedicated tunnel", and "flow based tunneling"
06:08:45 <soichi> we would like to share some progress report in the next week IRC
06:12:34 <yamamoto> overhead in what sense?  cpu?
06:13:01 <vnyyad> soichi: that will be great
06:13:13 <kaz> yamamoto: yes
06:15:49 <soichi> reedip, yamamoto, vnyyad: do you have another topic for today?
06:16:33 <yamamoto> nothing from me
06:17:09 <vnyyad> nothing from me
06:19:24 <reedip> yamamoto : I think the patch which anil was talking about needs to be discussed ???
06:19:47 <yamamoto> reedip: which patch?
06:20:04 <reedip> one on the email ( my gmail isnt working , maybe you have it ? )
06:21:13 <soichi> reedip: i think it is good to discuss after Anil submit the patch
06:21:27 <reedip> soichi : umm, okay (?)
06:21:44 <yamamoto> reedip: i saw emails but haven't seen a patch
06:21:53 <reedip> ok
06:23:19 <soichi> okay, it is a little bit earlier, but i'd like to close today's meeting if we have no more topics
06:24:10 <yamamoto> thank you
06:25:03 <soichi> #endmeeting