05:31:38 #startmeeting taas 05:31:38 Meeting started Wed Sep 14 05:31:38 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is soichi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 05:31:39 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 05:31:41 The meeting name has been set to 'taas' 05:32:06 #topic: Open Discussion 05:32:38 do you have any update or topic for today? 05:33:21 hi 05:33:33 yamamoto: hi 05:33:40 Yes a lot :) 05:34:29 #1 : Can everyone please go through the spec again ? #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/256210/ 05:35:15 I am of the opinion that TaaS has been alive for some time. Maybe we can try to include it in the Big Tent soon ? 05:35:21 Let me know your opinion 05:35:59 yes, please. one more +2 is required. 05:36:12 reedip: have you asked armax his opinion recently? 05:36:26 ie which of neutron or big tent is suitable for taas 05:38:27 yamamoto : no, I have not asked for his opinion for TaaS yet. I want to , though, but after the spec is finalized from our side and committed 05:38:30 vnyyad: hi 05:38:39 hi 05:39:05 yamamoto , armax: I would however like to know how different is applying for Big Tent than applying for Neutron ? 05:40:46 reedip: being a part of neutron means supervison from neutron folks. eg. neutron stable maintainer 05:41:23 yamamoto: yes right. But can TaaS apply for neutron after completing the big tent process? 05:41:52 reedip: nothing prevents it i guess 05:42:29 yamamoto : what I mean is , applying for neutron and applying for big tent are not tightly coupled, are they ? If not, can we apply for big tent and in parallel work for inclusion in the Neutron Stadium ( if that concept still exists ?) 05:43:28 vnyyad: hi , can you look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/256210/ and provide your comments for the TaaS spec ? 05:44:06 reedip: my understanding is one of those options needs to be chosen 05:45:11 reedip: i had a quick look yesterday and it looked OK to me, i will however read it throughly today and get back within today 05:46:56 yamamoto: My understanding is we can apply for Big Tent, make our project official and then work for integration with Neutron. As far as I remember, the previous TaaS Spec satisfied some of the queries for inclusion in Neutron 'stadium' . The current spec is more detailed. 05:47:40 yamamoto: and IIUC, we can do both one after the other. But I would the opinion of other members as well as to how we plan to move forward. 05:48:15 i don't have strong opinions either ways 05:49:12 yamamoto : :) Then I would wait for opinion from soichi, kaz, vnyyad and anil_rao ( he is not here I guess) 05:50:35 i think it is better to apply to the Neutron 'Stadium' 05:51:26 soichi : I am also of the same opinion. My question is , should we apply directly or after applying to big tent 05:51:45 I mean should we try to make our project official first ? 05:51:50 soichi: +1 05:52:50 reedip: i'm not sure what's the point of indirect steps. 05:53:58 i'm not sure, if TaaS included in the Neutron 'Stadium', is TaaS officially recognized? 05:54:13 soichi: yes, as a part of neutron. 05:54:34 yamamoto : TaaS is not yet in the big tent. So wanted to know if it is included as a part of Neutron Stadium, would it mean it would be a part of the Big Tent as well ? 05:56:04 we need to clarify this governance thing with some one in neutron core 05:56:35 reedip: if neutron is, its subprojects are. 05:58:03 yamamoto : okay . Can we drop an email to the Neutron Core members for the review of TaaS Spec soi that it can be included in the Neutron Stadium as a subproject. 05:58:20 yamamoto : if not, then what are the remaining items in the checklist which we need to fulfil ? 05:58:33 i think Armando agree to TaaS is a candidate for Neutron stadium, isn't it? 05:58:49 vnyyad , yamamoto : I would really like TaaS to be a part of Big Tent and Neutron Stadium in Ocata . 05:58:50 :) 05:59:00 reedip: i think there's a written procedure. submit api-ref patch etc. 05:59:12 reedip: +1 05:59:23 yamamoto : Okay, let me search the same. 05:59:59 Lemme ask this query in the #neutron IRC as well :) 06:00:38 +1 06:00:44 reedip: +1 06:00:52 +1 06:01:36 #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/stadium/governance.html#checklist 06:02:37 thanks yamamoto . I will go through the checklist and float a mail today evening as to what items are remaining ( unless someone has already done the homework ?? :) ) 06:03:30 the biggest item is to have a test, i guess. 06:03:48 it has been on our todo list too long 06:04:51 another is OSC but i guess it shouldn't be too difficult. 06:05:20 OSC has been in my ToDo list as well . Need to discuss with rtheis about including TaaS as a plugin 06:07:42 any ather topic? 06:08:25 we are working for performance measurement 06:08:37 we are planning to compare overhead of "shared tunnel (original design)", "dedicated tunnel", and "flow based tunneling" 06:08:45 we would like to share some progress report in the next week IRC 06:12:34 overhead in what sense? cpu? 06:13:01 soichi: that will be great 06:13:13 yamamoto: yes 06:15:49 reedip, yamamoto, vnyyad: do you have another topic for today? 06:16:33 nothing from me 06:17:09 nothing from me 06:19:24 yamamoto : I think the patch which anil was talking about needs to be discussed ??? 06:19:47 reedip: which patch? 06:20:04 one on the email ( my gmail isnt working , maybe you have it ? ) 06:21:13 reedip: i think it is good to discuss after Anil submit the patch 06:21:27 soichi : umm, okay (?) 06:21:44 reedip: i saw emails but haven't seen a patch 06:21:53 ok 06:23:19 okay, it is a little bit earlier, but i'd like to close today's meeting if we have no more topics 06:24:10 thank you 06:25:03 #endmeeting