05:32:33 #startmeeting taas 05:32:33 Have we started the meeting? 05:32:33 Meeting started Wed Oct 19 05:32:33 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is soichi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 05:32:34 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 05:32:36 The meeting name has been set to 'taas' 05:32:45 Thanks! :-) 05:32:54 #topic: Open Discussion 05:34:16 vBrownBag Tech Talk in Barcelona Summit 05:34:36 anil_rao: Thank you for the latest version of slides. It looks fine. 05:34:59 soichi: Did the animations work correctly? 05:35:13 yes 05:35:24 Thanks for verifying 05:35:40 I think it is easy to understand. 05:36:41 Kaz: Thanks. It took quite some time to get that to work, especially since I am not very good with PowerPoint. :-) 05:37:14 I see that Vinay (and others) will also be presenting a vBrownBag talk. 05:37:21 yes 05:37:31 Oct. 25th Tuesday 14:15-14:30 "Tapping in NFV cloud : A real world showcase by Swisscom, Ericsson and IXIA" 05:37:49 It should be an interesting presentation. 05:37:57 sure 05:39:29 I think we should meet with the folks who are invested in the extension driver in Barcelona. 05:39:51 +1 05:40:13 +1 05:40:50 Would you know if that work (i.e. the framework) is scheduled for the O release. 05:41:33 I don't know. I guess some session in the Design Summit. 05:42:12 OK. 05:44:38 For the preparation of presentation, I'd like to propose the final check and a rehearsal at luch time on 26th Wednesday. 05:44:39 I think time keeping is very important for the short time (10 minutes) presentation. 05:45:06 +1 05:46:49 I'm not sure, but i guess 3 min. for Reedip and 4 min. each for Anil and Kaz, for example. 11min. :-) 05:47:13 That sounds good. 05:47:24 thank you 05:49:17 Let's finalize the slides on WebEx meeting, tomorrow. 05:49:37 Sure. I'll set up that meeting for the same time as last week. 05:49:43 One other thing... 05:49:50 yes 05:50:49 kaz,soichi: During the Summit I'd like to chat with you some more about the isolated tunnel case and we should try to get that in soon. 05:51:13 +2 05:51:48 I hope Yamamoto can join us. 05:51:49 It is a very useful feature, especially for folks who have an existing cloud infrastructure and want to enable traffic monitoring on it. 05:52:08 Yes. We'll meat as a team and discuss this (and perhaps other items too). 05:52:25 meat --> meet 05:52:43 sure 05:53:43 let's coordinate date. time, and place by email. 05:53:57 I also want to talk about monitoring ports on the network nodes, which would be an interesting project in its own right. 05:54:19 +1 05:55:30 Another topic would be the items that we need to address in preparation for inclusion in the Big Tent / Neutron Stadium. 05:55:52 There are several things that need to be handled when errors occur or things fail. 05:56:21 I agree. 05:57:33 inclusiton to the Neutorn Stadium should be a big topic for us 05:57:55 Agreed 05:59:24 we really want to make TaaS as one of the default functions (I mean TaaS is installed as one of the default functions of Neutron) 06:00:02 hi 06:00:11 Hi 06:00:11 yamamoto_: hi 06:00:25 hi 06:00:40 yamamoto_: i'm looking forward to meeting you in Barcelona 06:00:54 +1 06:01:19 I plan to look into the restartability issue with our TaaS Agent. 06:02:11 I think this will be crucial for inclusion in the Neutron Stadium. 06:02:42 i see 06:03:57 anil_rao: i guess it's one of our favorite topics. "make it an l2 agent extension" 06:04:38 +1 06:07:34 reedip owns the task. but it seems he is not here today? 06:07:57 yamamoto_: yes 06:08:50 probably someone should step up and take it over from him. 06:11:13 Let's discuss this during the Summit next week. 06:11:20 Reedip will also come to Barcelona, so I think we can disscuss this topic there. 06:11:25 anil_rao: +1 06:11:48 Outside of just the agent itself, we also need some error correction login in the Plugin code that runs in the controller. 06:12:02 and/or maybe write some code there? 06:12:43 login --> logic 06:13:13 anil_rao: do you have a bug for that? 06:13:25 I'll file one 06:13:30 thank you 06:15:11 it reminded me LP ownership issue. 06:16:10 anil_rao: did you hear anything about it from vinay recently? 06:17:10 yamamoto_: No. However, Vinay will be there too so we can discuss this in person with him. 06:17:57 is there anything to discuss? i thought it was just "vinay doesn't have spare time to do it" type issue. 06:18:34 Didn't know that. 06:19:28 i guess he just forgot it. 06:19:54 Can we discuss some performance related items? 06:20:10 sure 06:20:38 Kaz and Soichi have given us a good start by collecting some very intersting data (for both the shared and isolated underlay cases). 06:21:06 I would like to have this work continue. I'll pitch in to this effort with some experiments of my own. 06:21:35 +1 06:21:39 yes 06:22:05 One of the things I want to evaluate is how much monitoring we can do on a given host before it is deemed too much. i.e. before it starts affecting other VMs on the host. 06:22:28 agree 06:23:01 We eventually should try to tie this up with the TaaS framework so that this data (perhaps some form of statistics) can be made avialable to the end-user. 06:23:40 For example how much mirrored traffic is flowing on a per-host or per-tenant basis. 06:24:46 i agree with you. And also on a per-tap-service, i think. 06:24:55 Yes. 06:25:33 i guess neutron itself is weak in that area. 06:25:34 Without this kind of statistics it is very hard to know what is happening on a multi-host, multi-tenant system when a facility like distributed port-mirroring is available. 06:25:58 yamamoto_: Agree 06:26:21 anil_rao: agree 06:27:05 TaaS can make this Neutron weakness worse because one can have several silent consumers of cpu and network bandwidth which are end-user initialted tap-service instances. 06:27:29 there was "physical topology" effort while ago but i don't know where it went. 06:28:30 anil_rao: valid concern 06:30:11 If you all are interest I can discuss some ideas I have on this topic with you next week. 06:30:25 sure 06:30:29 yes 06:30:57 I think we are out of time. 06:31:05 yes, now it looks we have run out of time 06:31:07 We will skip next week IRC because of Barcelona Summit. 06:31:15 Sure 06:31:20 with midonet you can visualize taas traffic. (promotion mode :-) 06:31:34 :) 06:31:37 #endmeeting