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16:04:49 <sridhar_ram> sripriya: you there ?
16:04:58 <sripriya> sridhar_ram: o/
16:05:07 <sridhar_ram> #chair sripriya
16:05:08 <openstack> Current chairs: sridhar_ram sripriya
16:05:33 <sridhar_ram> Agenda #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Tacker#Meeting_Aug_27.2C_2015
16:05:37 <Rajkumar> hello all
16:05:48 <sridhar_ram> Rajkumar: hi
16:05:48 <xhuang> hi
16:05:51 <vishwanathj> hello
16:05:52 <sridhar_ram> #topic Announcements
16:05:54 <shrinathsuresh> hi
16:06:17 <natarajk> hi
16:06:26 <sridhar_ram> hi everyone!
16:06:49 <sridhar_ram> Tacker liberty midcycle meeting minutes available here - #link  https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Tacker/Liberty-Midcycle-Meeting-Minutes
16:07:20 <sridhar_ram> Slides used for the discussion is available in slideshare here - #link http://www.slideshare.net/SridharRamaswamy/openstack-tacker-liberty-midcycle
16:07:55 <sripriya> sridhar_ram: thank you for leading the tacker liberty midcycle
16:08:00 <sridhar_ram> That's was a very productive meetup. Lots of nice discussions. Thanks for those who took the effort to participate!
16:08:11 <sridhar_ram> sripriya: thanks!
16:09:05 <sridhar_ram> anything else to announce ? deadline / milestones ?
16:09:48 <sripriya> sridhar_ram: how about the liberty release deadline for tacker?
16:09:57 <sridhar_ram> I frankly we had the Tacker M summit talk to announce.. too bad it didn't got selected :(
16:11:06 <sridhar_ram> sripriya: good question .. but we are bit lagging to get the previous checkpoints like stable/kilo pull, switch to master to knock off before we can take up Liberty release
16:11:56 <sridhar_ram> I'm hoping these blockers will be cleared soon.. hopefully in next few days
16:12:01 <sripriya> sridhar_ram: understood, we can decide a date once the switch to master happens
16:12:08 <s3wong> hello
16:12:14 <sridhar_ram> s3wong: hi
16:12:24 <sridhar_ram> sripriya: exactly
16:12:43 <sridhar_ram> prashantD_: you there ?
16:12:43 <sripriya> sridhar_ram: reg: sessions it will only make us evolve tacker even better for M release and beyond :-)
16:12:53 <prashantD_> sridhar_ram : I am here
16:13:35 <sridhar_ram> sripriya: I sure bet Tacker will have lot more stuff to showcase in N Summit!
16:13:56 <sripriya> sridhar_ram: :-)
16:14:09 <sridhar_ram> Note, me and Bob H are invited for an NFV Panel .. will make sure to plug Tacker as much as possible ;-)
16:14:30 <sridhar_ram> lets move on
16:14:35 <sridhar_ram> #topic AutoScaling Update
16:14:54 <sridhar_ram> prashantD_: take over for you are updates!
16:15:09 <prashantD_> I have the spec out for review.
16:15:25 <prashantD_> sridhar_ram : I saw your comments, I will address them, esp the template portion
16:15:33 * sridhar_ram needs to disable pidgin spell-checker... argh
16:15:50 <prashantD_> on the meter side we are just going to stick with cpu_util for now?
16:16:27 <sridhar_ram> prashantD_: given we have scoped to keep this effort simple I'm fine w/ sticking w/ cpu_util
16:16:54 <sridhar_ram> unless anyone else have other options on which triggers should kick off auto-scaling actions
16:17:05 <sridhar_ram> *opinions
16:17:18 <vishwanathj> good initial start
16:17:38 <prashantD_> okay I will update the spec accordingly.
16:18:00 <prashantD_> once it is done I will start the implementation portion.
16:18:14 <sridhar_ram> prashantD_: sounds good
16:18:28 <sridhar_ram> team - please review this spec - #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214297/
16:18:39 <prashantD_> day job is keeping me really busy so I couldn't attend midcycle, sorry
16:19:32 <sridhar_ram> I also invite the VNF vendors interested in Tacker to see if they can leverage this feature...
16:19:46 <sridhar_ram> .. we need some beta testing for this feature w/ real VNFs
16:20:01 <sridhar_ram> prashantD_: no worries
16:20:11 <sridhar_ram> prashantD_: anything else ?
16:20:36 <prashantD_> sridhar_ram : no I am done for now...pls review the spec
16:20:44 <sridhar_ram> will do
16:20:57 <sridhar_ram> #topic Tacker-SFC Integration
16:21:21 <sridhar_ram> trozet: you there ?
16:22:09 <sridhar_ram> lets continue ...
16:22:48 <sridhar_ram> as evident in the midcycle discussion .. we are super excited about Tim's SFC PoC efforts in Tacker
16:22:51 <sridhar_ram> #link https://github.com/trozet/tacker/commits/SFC
16:23:27 <sridhar_ram> I'd like to get the team's thoughts on how we can bring in into Tacker repo...
16:24:08 <sridhar_ram> particular on the code structure that should host SFC api and backend implemenation
16:24:10 <vishwanathj> would not the regular process of a spec and then code patch set not gping to work
16:25:45 <sridhar_ram> vishwanathj: that would be the ultimate goal.. however I want to get the initial strawman among our minds clear so that we can guide that effort - spec / code, etc
16:26:12 <sridhar_ram> some background ..
16:26:44 <sridhar_ram> Tacker code, for good or bad, is structured along the lines of neutron extension ..
16:26:52 <sripriya> sridhar_ram: are we still thinking about providing a sfc extension?
16:27:15 <sridhar_ram> sripriya: I'm getting there ;-)
16:27:48 <sridhar_ram> we are moving the current code into an extension named as "vnfm" - essentially the VNF Manager portion of Tacker
16:28:25 <sridhar_ram> we also envision we will have an "nfvo" extension sometime in the near future with NFV Orchestration APIs / backends
16:28:56 <sridhar_ram> now for SFC ... we probably need something similar..
16:29:22 <vishwanathj> oh I see
16:29:32 <Rajkumar_> Sridhar - Please share us any link or materials related to SFC.
16:30:13 <sridhar_ram> Rajkumar_: unfortunately, there is no one spec to point to...
16:30:38 <sridhar_ram> hopefully the spec / docs we write for Tacker+SFC could serve that purpose...
16:30:56 <sridhar_ram> ETSI-VNFFG is probably a good high-level model to refer..
16:31:00 <Rajkumar_> Thanks Sridhar..
16:31:22 <Rajkumar_> Sure..
16:31:32 <sridhar_ram> IMO SFC is need in two places in ETSI MANO ..
16:31:54 <sridhar_ram> (1) for VNFFG which is at the NFVO / NSD handler
16:32:24 <sridhar_ram> (2) for intra-VNF (VDU wiring) -
16:32:39 <sridhar_ram> I'm not too sure about (2) ... if there is a real use-case
16:33:52 <sridhar_ram> question to the team - should SFC exists as an NVFO API or should it be a common API (using a tacker sfc extension) ?
16:34:41 <sridhar_ram> Rajkumar_: I remember your team was interested in NSD aspects...any thoughts here ?
16:35:23 <Rajkumar_> Sridhar - it would be in NFVO API
16:35:43 <Rajkumar_> as it connects with VNF's.
16:36:25 <sridhar_ram> Rajkumar_: okay...
16:38:03 <sridhar_ram> lets think a bit more on Tacker-SFC integration .. it should map to ETSI-MANO's needs for SFC
16:38:36 <sridhar_ram> we will have more SFC related activities in our next iteration !
16:39:30 <sridhar_ram> anything else on SFC ? questions, comments ?
16:40:07 <sridhar_ram> #topic Liberty Release Plans
16:40:45 <xhuang> one comment on service chainning
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16:41:07 <sridhar_ram> xhuang: sure
16:41:10 <xhuang> if the scope of the service chaining also includes networking
16:41:27 <xhuang> then.. I am not sure if the NFVO is the right place
16:42:18 <xhuang> do we have any documentation on the scope?
16:42:39 <xhuang> sorry I missed the discussion on this topic last Friday
16:43:19 <sridhar_ram> xhuang: agree, as pointed out earlier in this meeting, we need a document that spells out the scope of this effort
16:44:23 <sripriya> sridhar_ram: i can create a spec for SFC for the initial outline
16:44:24 <sridhar_ram> any volunteers to take up this SFC work ?
16:44:45 <sridhar_ram> sripriya: cool, thanks .. we need someone to help Tim as well
16:45:01 <sripriya> sridhar_ram: i can coordinate with him
16:45:17 <sridhar_ram> sripriya: sounds good! thanks
16:45:37 <sridhar_ram> xhuang: lets use that spec to discuss scope and our initial efforts
16:45:45 <xhuang> sure.. thanks
16:46:06 <sridhar_ram> now to the liberty release plans...
16:46:31 <sridhar_ram> s3wong: we briefly discussed earlier in the meeting on this ..
16:47:18 <vks> hi
16:47:23 <vks> sorry i am late
16:47:37 <vks> SFC I can take
16:47:46 <sridhar_ram> we should wait, may a week, until we clear the backlog - Bob's fix, stable/kilo, switch to master .. etc
16:47:53 <sridhar_ram> s3wong: what do you think ?
16:48:13 <sridhar_ram> vks: hi, sure .. you and Sripriya can collaborate..
16:48:51 <vks> sripriya, so can we talk offline
16:49:02 <sripriya> vks: sure
16:49:09 <vks> ok
16:49:45 <sridhar_ram> s3wong: you there ?
16:50:56 <sridhar_ram> ... we sure will be cutting close for a liberty release...
16:51:41 <sridhar_ram> we should try to rush the things in flight like MANO api, TOSCA parameterization and perhaps auto-scaling, that would be decent Liberty release
16:52:25 <sridhar_ram> lets open the floor for general questions..
16:52:36 <sripriya> sridhar_ram: ack
16:52:46 <sridhar_ram> #topic Open Discussion / Bugs / Misc
16:52:48 <vks> can we put some timelines
16:52:49 <vks> ?
16:53:13 <vks> also can we list down all the doc, spec we have
16:53:16 <vks> ???
16:53:20 <vks> if any
16:53:22 <vks> ???
16:53:31 <s3wong> sridhar_ram: sorry, was away from my desk for a while
16:53:34 <vks> it will help moving things faster
16:53:41 <sridhar_ram> vks: the specs are in the tacker-specs repo
16:53:58 <sridhar_ram> #link https://github.com/stackforge/tacker-specs
16:54:04 <vks> sridhar_ram, thnx
16:54:07 <sridhar_ram> s3wong: np
16:54:29 <vks> can we work on deciding timelines in next meeting
16:54:31 <vks> ???
16:54:37 <vks> internal to the team
16:54:47 <sridhar_ram> If I need to propose a date - Sept 18 - 3 weeks from now !
16:54:50 <sridhar_ram> what you all think ?
16:55:15 <vks> so what all in that?
16:55:19 <s3wong> sridhar_ram: this is for Liberty release?
16:55:20 <vks> i mean the scope
16:55:25 <vks> ???
16:55:45 <s3wong> sridhar_ram: 3 weeks from now sounds good... I should have time over the next week or so to clear review backlog
16:55:47 <sridhar_ram> s3wong: yes...too ambitious? ;-)
16:56:14 <sridhar_ram> vks: the ones I mentioned earlier .. the things that are in flight
16:56:23 <vks> sridhar_ram, MANO api
16:56:27 <s3wong> sridhar_ram: I know MANO API would be in, how about monitoring and auto-scaling?
16:56:27 <sridhar_ram> MANO api, TOSCA parameterization and perhaps auto-scaling
16:56:32 <vks> tosca parametrization
16:56:38 <vks> autoscaling
16:57:15 <sridhar_ram> MANO api & TOSCA param is zero risk
16:57:39 <sridhar_ram> Bob H need to comment on health-monitoring and Prashant for auto-scaling
16:58:07 <vks> what about SFC??
16:58:13 <sridhar_ram> But the fact that we have a date .. might make this happen ;)
16:58:33 <s3wong> vks: don't believe that would be remotely possible to make Liberty at this point
16:58:37 <sridhar_ram> vks: SFC is early in the cycle..that can't be Liberty release
16:58:49 <sridhar_ram> but we can have some PoC my Tokyo summit
16:58:55 <sridhar_ram> that code will be in the master
16:59:00 <sridhar_ram> not in the stable/liberty
16:59:06 * sridhar_ram 1 min mark..
16:59:09 <s3wong> sridhar_ram: yeah, would be nice to have a release by M-Summit
16:59:13 <sridhar_ram> we got wrap up guys
16:59:33 <sridhar_ram> we are out of time ..
16:59:40 <vks> hey let me know if i can close some bugs
16:59:42 <s3wong> Thanks, guys!
16:59:51 <sridhar_ram> if someone want to continue please jump to #tacker channel...
17:00:10 <sripriya> thanks everyone!
17:00:11 <sridhar_ram> vks: sure, thanks for your help!
17:00:23 <sridhar_ram> #endmeeting