16:00:38 <sridhar_ram> #startmeeting tacker
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16:00:55 <sridhar_ram> #topic Roll Call
16:01:02 <sridhar_ram> who is here for tacker ?
16:01:06 <sripriya> o/
16:01:10 <vishwanathj> o/
16:02:11 <tbh> o/
16:02:34 <sridhar_ram> sripriya: vishwanathj: tbh: hi there, lets give a min or two and then start
16:03:05 <afv> Hi Sridhar - here for Tacker, but been tracking mostly to now - Andy
16:03:37 <sridhar_ram> afv: hi Andy, welcome!
16:03:50 <afv> thx
16:04:18 <sridhar_ram> bobh: s3wong: ping
16:04:44 <sridhar_ram> lets start..
16:04:49 <sridhar_ram> #topic Announcements
16:05:13 <sridhar_ram> Agenda here - #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Tacker#Meeting_Oct_1.2C_2015
16:05:57 <sridhar_ram> Mitaka summit is just few weeks away ..
16:07:24 <sridhar_ram> Here is the etherpad for mitaka summit .. #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-tacker-design-summit
16:07:35 <sridhar_ram> please add you are name if you are planning to attend...
16:07:52 <sridhar_ram> we can also use the same etherpad for the topics to discuss there..
16:08:28 <sridhar_ram> Another important / good news ... we now have a BoF (Birds of Feathers) session for Tacker in the official schedule
16:08:30 <sridhar_ram> #link http://sched.co/4MZc
16:09:08 <sridhar_ram> This BoF session is scheduled for Tuesday Oct 27, 12:05 - 12:45pm
16:09:35 <sripriya> great!
16:09:42 <sridhar_ram> please mark your calendars and spread the news in your circles ...!
16:09:45 <tbh> that;s great!
16:10:56 <sridhar_ram> Target audience is beyond tacker developers - this would be a good forum to get input from Operators / Telcos, other SDOs like OPNFV, ODL folks, standards folks from ETSI, TOSCA, etc
16:12:27 <sridhar_ram> Beyond this the developers should plan for a solid design session .. I'm hoping we can do this on Friday as there is no sessions in the Main Conference
16:13:06 <sridhar_ram> I still need to get a doodle poll started.. will do it by next week.
16:13:24 <sridhar_ram> #topic Health Monitoring
16:13:35 <sridhar_ram> bobh: are you here ?
16:14:35 <sridhar_ram> I see the review is progressing well for Bob's code changes ... #link https://review.openstack.org/224384
16:15:06 <sridhar_ram> I hopeful we can wrap this up by next week...
16:15:23 <sridhar_ram> tbh: any updates from your side on health-mon ?
16:15:47 <tbh> yes sridhar, I have pushed the http ping driver for review
16:16:47 <sridhar_ram> tbh: nice, this is important as we need to validate the health-mon framework w/ something other than ping driver
16:17:01 <tbh> sridhar_ram, whe monitor is unable to connect to VNF, tacker is raising keyerror of template_id
16:17:01 <sridhar_ram> tbh: can you provide the link ?
16:17:39 <tbh> that's only issue, we have at present
16:17:40 <tbh> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229858/
16:17:49 <sridhar_ram> tbh: I see..
16:18:20 <sridhar_ram> sripriya: did template_id move in the MANO api refactoring ? perhaps it is a merge damage ?
16:18:34 <tbh> sridhar_ram, and I will update devref based on both these drivers
16:18:44 <sripriya> sridhar_ram: no template_id is still sent for the inner layers
16:19:02 <sridhar_ram> sripriya: altight..
16:19:17 <sridhar_ram> tbh: this is something we need Bob to chime in...
16:19:33 <sridhar_ram> I'm planning to try the health-mon code in my testbed as well..
16:19:47 <sridhar_ram> will post my findings in the gerrit review..
16:19:51 <tbh> sure
16:20:01 <sridhar_ram> tbh: thanks for taking up the devref as well..
16:20:06 <sripriya> tbh: i can help look into the issue
16:20:15 <sridhar_ram> sripriya: thanks!
16:20:28 <tbh> thanks sripriya
16:21:07 <sridhar_ram> I'm hoping after liberty .. many vendors would consider developing custom mon drivers for their VNFs
16:21:21 <sridhar_ram> that would be the success criteria..!
16:21:39 <sridhar_ram> anything else on health-mon ?
16:22:30 <sridhar_ram> #topic Bug Sprint
16:23:03 <sridhar_ram> As discussed in last meeting .. lets start a two-weeks bug spring for tacker!
16:24:02 <sridhar_ram> Here is the list of bugs in open starts (new, in-progress, etc) - http://bit.ly/1KTZdpg
16:24:20 <sridhar_ram> we have a total of 32...
16:25:00 <sridhar_ram> there are couple of low-hanging-fruit bugs as well -- https://bugs.launchpad.net/tacker/+bugs?field.tag=low-hanging-fruit
16:25:36 <sridhar_ram> if anyone interested to contribute .. this is the best way to get started!
16:26:42 <sridhar_ram> Here is the list of unassigned bugs - #link http://bit.ly/1G4Z9Rq
16:27:01 <sridhar_ram> total of 9 bugs up for grabs
16:27:31 <sridhar_ram> looking forward for everyone in the team to pitch in!
16:27:59 <sridhar_ram> vishwanathj: thanks for taking up that nasty pending_create bug... it is quite critical
16:28:25 <vishwanathj> I have uploaded a patchset and have already received comments from bobh
16:28:40 <sridhar_ram> vishwanathj: nice!
16:29:00 <sridhar_ram> any other thoughts on bug sprint ?
16:29:51 <sridhar_ram> #topic Documentation
16:30:54 <sridhar_ram> any ideas how we can improve tacker documentation beyond devrefs?
16:32:06 <sripriya> sridhar_ram: does docs.openstack.org convert devref to manuals? i could not confirm that with neutron when i explored the devrefs and docs, they were not the same
16:32:10 <tbh> it is better to provide a complete use case of examples
16:32:39 <tbh> like starting a VNF, configuring etc.,
16:32:51 <bobh> hello
16:32:52 <tbh> with suitables images and vnfds
16:33:21 <sridhar_ram> sripriya: that is the ideal (for short-term)... if there is a way to light up docs.openstack.org/developer/tacker with all the devrefs we have
16:33:35 <sridhar_ram> bobh: hi there!
16:34:24 <sridhar_ram> tbh: yeah, that would be awesome to have a proper user-guide for Tacker
16:35:04 <s3wong> sorry, very late, guys, had to attend to my daughter in the morning...
16:35:05 <sridhar_ram> again, I'm still catching up here on the whole openstack docs process...
16:35:16 <sridhar_ram> s3wong: hi there, np
16:35:33 <bobh> access to images is probably the main issue - it's easy to use what is provided in devstack
16:36:14 <sridhar_ram> bobh: agree
16:36:43 <tbh> bobh, yeah some relatively small images will do, and need to update devstack scripts for tacker to upload those images to glance where running stack itself
16:36:50 <sripriya> sridhar_ram: i could not look up more on docs last week, i will takek it up as an AI and get back
16:37:03 <tbh> s/where/while
16:37:49 <sridhar_ram> tbh: what do you expect from these images ? something beyond cirros images ?
16:38:37 <tbh> sridhar_ram, as we are providing openwrt vnfd, it is good to provide it's image and vnfd to update also
16:39:06 <tbh> so that a user/developer can clearly understand the working of tacker
16:41:09 <sridhar_ram> tbh: that's reasonable to document how to host openwrt as an example... but we don't have way to host qcow2 images in our repos
16:41:33 <sridhar_ram> *deploy openwrt
16:41:44 <bobh> sridhar_ram: maybe we can have links to known working examples?
16:42:35 <sridhar_ram> yes, we can place qcow2 someplace and provide the links in the doc...
16:43:06 <tbh> sridhar_ram, as magnum like projects, tries to download atomic images and update to glance while running devstack, we dont' need to host in our repos
16:43:07 <sridhar_ram> however .. I do see some value in providing step by step instruction to prepare, onboard and deploy VNFs using Tacker
16:43:29 <tbh> yeah
16:43:32 <bobh> sridhar_ram: agree
16:43:51 <sridhar_ram> sounds good...
16:44:37 <sridhar_ram> btw, my understanding is we can't download openwrt qcow2 as is from their servers.. it needs some "touch ups" before it can be used in openstack.
16:45:06 <sridhar_ram> overall such a deployment guide will help tacker adoption
16:45:35 <sridhar_ram> btw - do you think we need a document on how to condigure tacker.conf entries ?
16:45:57 <sridhar_ram> perhaps a devref could help here for near term ?
16:47:11 <sripriya> sridhar_ram: also, to add, it requires some more clean up :-)
16:47:18 <bobh> sridhar_ram: Agree - can probably use the changes that devstack makes as a starting point for the doc
16:48:01 <sridhar_ram> sripriya: agree :)
16:48:23 <sridhar_ram> bobh: okay...
16:48:30 <sridhar_ram> so lets summarize here :)
16:49:17 <sridhar_ram> 1) we will finish up devrefs in flight and add one for tacker.conf
16:49:40 <sridhar_ram> 2) hook up devref to docs.openstack.org/developer/tacker
16:50:04 <sridhar_ram> 3) starts a basic deployer guide doc for tacker
16:50:31 <sridhar_ram> I'll take the AI for (2) above .. I'm anyway doing stuff in project-infra
16:50:40 <sridhar_ram> any volunteers for (3) ?
16:51:36 <sripriya> sridhar_ram: i can take up 3) :)
16:51:55 <sridhar_ram> sripriya: thanks...
16:52:43 <sridhar_ram> tbh: it will be great if you can colloborate w/ sripriya -
16:52:58 <tbh> sure sridhar_ram
16:53:44 <sridhar_ram> tbh: sripriya: thanks a lot.. docs are an important deliverable.. sometimes as important as the code as well.. so THANKS A LOT!
16:53:45 <sripriya> we also need to keep the doc current as tacker evolves
16:54:04 <sripriya> sridhar_ram: where do we place the doc?
16:54:14 * sridhar_ram notes 6 mins left
16:54:42 <sridhar_ram> sripriya: is there a separate repo for openstack docs ?
16:54:57 <sripriya> sridhar_ram: yes
16:55:02 <sripriya> openstack-manuals
16:55:16 <sridhar_ram> ah.. I see.. we need it there
16:55:34 <sridhar_ram> we can start w/ something simple and evolve...
16:56:04 <sridhar_ram> anything else on docs ?
16:56:05 <sripriya> we need to confirm if stackforge projects are allowed in openstack docs
16:56:26 <annegentle> sripriya: good question. I'll follow up and see what we think on that.
16:56:43 <sripriya> annegentle: thanks!
16:56:47 <annegentle> My initial reaction is "must be in projects.yaml"
16:57:38 <sripriya> annegentle: ok
16:58:10 <sridhar_ram> annegentle: thanks, we plan to apply for goverance in the near future... meanwhile we want to get as many pieces straight as possible
16:58:36 <sridhar_ram> #topic Open Discussion
16:58:58 <sridhar_ram> folks - who joined late please catchup in eavesdrop logs ..
16:59:26 <sridhar_ram> quick heads up .. we have a BoF session for Tacker in Tokyo.. please make a note and spreadh
16:59:54 <sridhar_ram> lets wrap then...
16:59:57 <sridhar_ram> bye folks!
17:00:02 <bobh> bye
17:00:07 <sripriya> bye!
17:00:13 <s3wong> bye
17:00:20 <tbh> bye
17:00:23 <sridhar_ram> #endmeeting