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17:01:04 <sridhar_ram> #topic Roll Call
17:01:06 <vishwanathj> o/
17:01:10 <brucet> o/
17:01:13 <sripriya> o/
17:07:29 <sridhar_ram> Hi Tackers!
17:07:29 <LouisF> hi
17:07:35 <natarajk> hi
17:07:35 <santoshk> hi
17:07:35 <bobh> o/
17:07:35 <prashantD> o/
17:07:36 <sridhar_ram> looks we have a quorum !
17:07:37 <sridhar_ram> tbh won't make it today
17:07:37 <sridhar_ram> let's start...
17:07:37 <sridhar_ram> #topic Agenda
17:07:37 <s3wong> hello
17:07:37 <sridhar_ram> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Tacker#Meeting_Mar_29.2C_2016
17:07:38 <sridhar_ram> #topic Annoucements
17:07:38 * sridhar_ram notices topic doesn't change
17:07:38 <sridhar_ram> #info Annoucements
17:07:38 <sridhar_ram> python-tackerclient for Mitaka 0.3.0 is released
17:07:38 <sridhar_ram> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-announce/2016-March/001030.html
17:07:38 <sridhar_ram> PTL election results out -
17:07:39 <sridhar_ram> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/090422.html
17:07:39 <sridhar_ram> you folks are stuck w/ me for another 6-months.... sorry
17:07:39 <sridhar_ram> #topic Mitaka Release Review
17:07:42 * sridhar_ram wondering if irc freenode is acting fine
17:07:42 <sridhar_ram> can someone please ack?
17:07:42 <brucet> ack
17:07:42 <sridhar_ram> brucet: thanks!
17:07:47 <brucet> Maybe only in Costa Rica
17:07:52 <s3wong> ack
17:07:56 <brucet> There??
17:08:01 <sridhar_ram> brucet: nope, whole universe...
17:08:01 <LouisF> yes
17:08:02 <vishwanathj> acl
17:08:04 <vishwanathj> ack
17:08:08 <s3wong> perhaps even sridhar_ram is gone? :-)
17:08:23 <sridhar_ram> s3wong: I'm here..
17:08:38 <sridhar_ram> things are getting replayed...
17:09:00 <sridhar_ram> .. looks there was a momentary kink in space-time fabric ;-)
17:09:25 <bobh> Eddy's in the space-time-continuum...
17:09:35 <sridhar_ram> bobh: lol
17:09:51 <sridhar_ram> let's regroup..
17:10:12 <sridhar_ram> did you folks caught up to the announcements typed earlier ?
17:10:31 <brucet> Your the man for 6 months; what else?
17:10:31 <sripriya> sridhar_ram: yes
17:10:57 <sridhar_ram> brucet: pretty much that .. oh well we also release our client mitaka lib
17:11:06 <sridhar_ram> let's move on...
17:11:30 <sridhar_ram> Blueprints wise we have the following outstanding...
17:11:37 <sridhar_ram> 1) EPA (vish)
17:11:52 <sridhar_ram> 2) MultiSite UI (sripriya)
17:12:03 <sridhar_ram> 3) Auto Image creation (tbh)
17:12:20 <sridhar_ram> anything else beyond this ?
17:12:28 <brucet> for Mitaka??
17:12:34 <sridhar_ram> brucet: yep
17:12:38 <vishwanathj> those are the ones that I recognize
17:13:04 <LouisF> networking-sfc driver
17:13:04 <sripriya_> sridhar_ram: AFAIK yes
17:13:23 <sridhar_ram> vishwanathj: sripriya_: thanks
17:13:31 <s3wong> LouisF: not for Mitaka
17:13:41 <sridhar_ram> LouisF: that would be targeted for Newton
17:13:56 <LouisF> s3wong: ok
17:14:15 <sridhar_ram> all those three outstanding looks close enough..
17:14:43 <sridhar_ram> deadline is EOD tomorrow (Wednesday) to wrap everything and ask for a Mitaka release on Thursday
17:15:26 <sridhar_ram> let's talk about any outstanding blockers / Mitaka candidate bugs
17:15:32 <sridhar_ram> #topic Mitaka Bugs
17:16:03 <sridhar_ram> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tacker/+bugs?field.tag=mitaka-bugs
17:16:15 <sridhar_ram> I see two bugs marked for Mitaka
17:16:24 <sridhar_ram> https://bugs.launchpad.net/tacker/+bug/1554663
17:16:24 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1554663 in tacker "VNF delete doesn't wait for stack_delete to complete" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to dharmendra (dharmendra-kushwaha)
17:16:31 <sridhar_ram> dkushwaha: are you here ?
17:17:46 <sridhar_ram> that bug had a func test issue...
17:18:02 <sridhar_ram> don't think it would make it by EOD tomorrow.
17:18:12 <sridhar_ram> we will have room to cherry pick that fix later
17:18:20 <sridhar_ram> the next one is .. https://bugs.launchpad.net/tacker/+bug/1547706
17:18:20 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1547706 in tacker "Tacker devstack installation should not fail when openwrt image download fails or times out" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Janki Chhatbar (jankihchhatbar)
17:18:28 <sridhar_ram> janki: are you here ?
17:18:38 <janki> sridhar_ram: Hi
17:18:50 <janki> Yes, I am here
17:19:20 <sridhar_ram> janki: what kind of testing you've done for this ?
17:19:26 <janki> as per the last comment, I was to explicity add return line
17:19:34 <janki> I ran tox tests
17:19:38 <janki> none other
17:19:54 <janki> I have added the return and submitted it
17:20:09 <sridhar_ram> janki: I meant the manual test.. was devstack able to continue even if the download failed ?
17:20:23 <sridhar_ram> janki: I was wondering how you simulated download failure ?
17:20:47 <janki> sridhar_ram: Yes, devstack was able to continue to install even if download failed
17:21:02 <sridhar_ram> okay.. we can finish that review offline
17:21:04 <sridhar_ram> janki: thanks!
17:21:07 <janki> I unset https_proxy to stimulate download failure
17:21:14 <sridhar_ram> janki: cool !
17:21:43 <sridhar_ram> anything else anyone want to flag for the core-team to merge by tomorrow ?
17:22:02 <dkushwaha> sridhar_ram, hi. Sorry for late joining.
17:22:26 <sridhar_ram> dkushwaha: no worries, we had a question about https://bugs.launchpad.net/tacker/+bug/1554663
17:22:26 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1554663 in tacker "VNF delete doesn't wait for stack_delete to complete" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to dharmendra (dharmendra-kushwaha)
17:22:51 <sridhar_ram> dkushwaha: wondering whether this can be wrapped up by tomorrow
17:23:00 <dkushwaha> sridhar_ram, I am looking into https://bugs.launchpad.net/tacker/+bug/1554663 . But currently stuck in some environmental issue on my system
17:23:38 <dkushwaha> sridhar_ram, will try to finish it by tomorrow morning
17:24:04 <sridhar_ram> dkushwaha: thanks.. it the fix is deemed "safe" we can absorb it in the mitaka release
17:24:56 <sridhar_ram> dkushwaha: I'm also keeping your sshpass fix.. that would be a good candidate for Mitaka
17:25:38 <sridhar_ram> Next need help for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282543/
17:25:43 <sridhar_ram> zeih: are you here ?
17:25:59 <sridhar_ram> This is deprecation of nova settings in tacker.conf...
17:26:15 <sridhar_ram> this will help to remove nova related cruft out of tacker in Newton
17:26:22 <sridhar_ram> any volunteers ?
17:26:29 <sripriya_> sridhar_ram: i can take it up
17:26:42 <sridhar_ram> sripriya_: thanks a lot!
17:27:09 <sridhar_ram> unless someone flags anything more.. that's a wrap for Mitaka release
17:27:25 <sridhar_ram> moving on...
17:27:34 <sridhar_ram> #topic Mitaka Docs
17:28:10 <sridhar_ram> now that Tacker is an official project.. we have proper doc landing slots in docs.openstack.org and specs.openstack.org
17:28:48 <sridhar_ram> My expectation is each of the blueprint owners will write some docs to describe the feature that got landed in Mitaka
17:29:32 <sridhar_ram> this is also a good chance for new members to Tacker community to pitch in
17:30:28 <sridhar_ram> any ideas / suggestions around tacker docs ?
17:30:50 <brucet> I think we need something that describes overall arch for Mitaka
17:31:06 <sridhar_ram> the team has done an amazing amount of work in Mitaka .. it is fair to now popularize them and docs are a good way
17:31:18 <brucet> Remember the Mitaka arch diagram I put together?
17:31:20 <sridhar_ram> brucet: agree, we could have a "Tacker Architecture" doc
17:31:30 <brucet> OK. I volunteer
17:32:09 <sripriya_> sridhar_ram: we need to have both developer and usage docs for the features
17:32:09 <sridhar_ram> brucet: thanks... I'd like to participate in putting that chapter as well
17:32:17 <sridhar_ram> brucet: we can team up
17:32:19 <brucet> Perfect for me.
17:32:48 <sridhar_ram> sripriya_: agree, we have mashed everything together now...
17:33:36 <sridhar_ram> BTW, if you've not noticed Tacker docs are available here ..
17:33:38 <sridhar_ram> #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/tacker/
17:34:21 <sripriya_> sridhar_ram: developer docs should focus purely on how to extend/optimize the features similar to other projects
17:34:22 <sridhar_ram> which chapters do you think should go to openstack-manuals project ?
17:35:19 <sripriya_> sridhar_ram: probably usage/setup ..?
17:35:53 <santoshk> srirpiya_: will we be adding any docs on clis with VIM usage...
17:35:57 <sridhar_ram> yeah, first four chapters ? Installation, Getting Started, Feature Documentation and API
17:36:36 <sripriya_> santoshk: feature usage guide should cover the clis i suppose
17:36:37 <sridhar_ram> janki: would you've some bandwidth to help out in this effort ?
17:37:15 <janki> sridhar_Ram: Yes. I can take out time for this.
17:37:25 <santoshk> saripriya_: ok..
17:38:26 <sridhar_ram> janki: thanks.. we now support a new TOSCA template syntax and this is a significant
17:38:30 <janki> I am also going through the TOSCA literature to document the VNFD template parameters
17:38:50 <sridhar_ram> janki: cool.. that would be a great piece
17:38:52 <janki> Oct 2015 release of TOSCA as we talked lat time right?
17:39:17 <sridhar_ram> janki: there will be a new version out in few weeks (CSD03)
17:39:25 <sridhar_ram> we should document based on that...
17:39:34 <sridhar_ram> bobh: thoughts ?
17:39:56 <janki> OK, so do I just wait till the next release is out?
17:40:16 <sridhar_ram> in fact I'm thinking we should document based on our samples in tacker/devstack/samples and in the func tests dir
17:40:24 <bobh> sridhar_ram: probably need to keep our documents in line with what tosca-parser is supporting
17:40:40 <sridhar_ram> bobh: do they have any docs ?
17:40:43 <bobh> sridhar_ram: so when tosca-parser has all of the changes in CSD03 supported, we can include them
17:40:52 <bobh> sridhar_ram: good question - I'll need to check
17:41:28 <brucet> Got a feeling there's no doc on actual syntax accepted by Tosca parser
17:41:50 <sridhar_ram> bobh: janki: I slightly less worried about the capability of the parser itself than the type of template customers can write off Tacker
17:41:51 <brucet> But its needed
17:42:21 <sridhar_ram> for eg. take the snippets from the samples in ..
17:42:24 <sridhar_ram> #link https://github.com/openstack/tacker/tree/master/tacker/tests/functional/vnfm
17:42:29 <bobh> sridhar_ram: Tacker capabilities will be whatever tosca-parser/heat-translator supports plus whatever Tacker has implemented on top
17:42:30 <sridhar_ram> #link https://github.com/openstack/tacker/tree/master/devstack/samples
17:43:30 <sridhar_ram> bobh: agree, however IMO tacker chapter on writing TOSCA template should focus on VDUs, VLs, mgmt-driver, mon-driver, etc.
17:43:55 <bobh> sridhar_ram: agree
17:43:58 <sridhar_ram> for the base tosca parsing we could ideally point to any tosca-parser syntax
17:44:28 <sridhar_ram> janki: in short, there is no need to wait to start writing this chapter
17:44:50 <sridhar_ram> we should be able to guide you
17:44:59 <janki> sridhar_ram: ok. Then I can start right away
17:45:17 <sridhar_ram> janki: thanks!
17:45:23 <brucet> So base docs on what's actually implemented in Parser right now, correct??
17:45:31 <sridhar_ram> keep in mind these docs doesn't go into tacker repo itself
17:45:47 <sridhar_ram> brucet: yes, that's what I meant
17:45:52 <janki> So what exact topics need to be included?
17:46:22 <sridhar_ram> janki: for now please own the TOSCA template syntax topic (chapter)
17:46:42 <sridhar_ram> brucet: and myself will own the Architecture chapter
17:47:10 <sridhar_ram> santoshk: sripriya_: I guess, you will write something on multisite ?
17:47:21 <sripriya_> sridhar_ram: thats correct
17:47:37 <janki> sridhar_Ram: Sure. Do I need to write/mention this anywhere?
17:47:42 <sripriya_> sridhar_ram: and also manual installation update for multisite
17:48:02 <sridhar_ram> sripriya_: yep, that's important!
17:48:16 <sridhar_ram> sripriya_: if possible before tomorrow ;-)
17:48:30 <sripriya_> sridhar_ram: i thought so :)
17:48:46 <brucet> sridhar_ram: I could use a point on how to develop docs for OpenStack.
17:48:49 <sridhar_ram> janki: we are also new to writing into openstack-manuals.. this is our first round
17:49:13 <sridhar_ram> brucet: sure, will take a AI to describe it in the next weekly meeting
17:49:17 <sripriya_> http://docs.openstack.org/contributor-guide/quickstart/new-projects.html
17:49:29 * sridhar_ram AI scratched
17:49:39 <brucet> Thx
17:50:00 <sridhar_ram> oh yeah, I had this link in the agenda
17:50:09 <sripriya_> sridhar_ram: :)
17:50:12 * sridhar_ram 10 mins
17:50:22 <sridhar_ram> let's move on..
17:50:45 <sridhar_ram> #topic Newton Summit Planning
17:51:01 <sridhar_ram> Austin Summit is just three weeks away..
17:52:26 <sridhar_ram> We have proper design summit space for Tacker now .. hurray!
17:52:29 <sridhar_ram> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/090606.html
17:52:38 <sridhar_ram> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/attachments/20160328/23a406bf/attachment.pdf
17:52:57 <sripriya_> sridhar_ram: cool
17:52:58 <s3wong> nice
17:53:03 <sridhar_ram> please plan your summit activities to accommodate these slots
17:53:26 <s3wong> the nice thing is fishbowl and the workroom sessions are all contiguous
17:53:45 <sridhar_ram> Here is the landing etherpad for Newton Summit
17:53:47 <sridhar_ram> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tacker-newton-summit
17:54:16 <sridhar_ram> s3wong: yes, the challenge if one / more of us has speaking slots on Thursday
17:54:33 <s3wong> sridhar_ram: our talk is in the morning, right?
17:54:40 <sridhar_ram> we can still request summit events team to alter if needed
17:54:43 <s3wong> sridhar_ram: do you have more in the afternoon?
17:54:48 <sridhar_ram> s3wong: I don't remember :(
17:55:00 <s3wong> sridhar_ram: you are too busy :-)
17:55:04 <sridhar_ram> s3wong: I haven't cross-checcked
17:55:11 <sripriya_> sridhar_ram: s3wong: multisite is before lunch and i guess EPA is in afternoon
17:55:29 <sridhar_ram> will break a sigh of relief after Mitaka goes out.. 2 more days..
17:55:44 <sridhar_ram> sripriya_: I see
17:56:06 <sridhar_ram> Folks - please RSVP in the etherpad above if you planning to attend in person
17:56:32 <sridhar_ram> the next work item is to finalize the topic for various working sessions
17:56:49 <sridhar_ram> lets discuss that more next week.. please come w/ your ideas
17:57:31 <sridhar_ram> I really hope we will operate with better deadline / milestones in Newton..
17:57:43 <sridhar_ram> .. so starting early on Newton features is the key
17:57:58 <s3wong> sridhar_ram: agreed
17:58:04 <sridhar_ram> any other question related to new Summit ?
17:58:08 <sridhar_ram> *newton
17:58:30 <sridhar_ram> #topic Open Discussion
17:59:06 <sridhar_ram> we have many interesting features lines up in Newton.. excited in this new big-tent era of Tacker!
17:59:15 <sridhar_ram> *lined
17:59:35 <sridhar_ram> that's it folks this week..
17:59:42 <brucet> Bye
17:59:43 <sridhar_ram> bye everyone
17:59:44 <LouisF> bye
17:59:45 <sripriya_> bye
17:59:48 <natarajk> bye
17:59:49 <janki> bye
17:59:56 <sridhar_ram> #endmeeting