16:01:57 <sridhar_ram> #startmeeting tacker 16:01:58 <openstack> Meeting started Tue Sep 6 16:01:57 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sridhar_ram. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:01:59 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:02:01 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'tacker' 16:02:09 <sridhar_ram> #topic Roll Call 16:02:18 <tbh> o/ 16:02:19 <manikanta_tadi> o/ 16:02:20 <dkushwaha> o/ 16:02:22 <vishwanathj> o/ 16:02:27 <neel> o/ 16:02:34 <mike_m> o/ 16:02:40 <janki> o/ 16:02:41 <sripriya> o/ 16:02:43 <tung_doan> o/ 16:03:06 <sridhar_ram> howdy all !! 16:03:11 <KanagarajM> o/ 16:03:29 <sridhar_ram> #chair sripriya tbh KanagarajM 16:03:30 <openstack> Current chairs: KanagarajM sridhar_ram sripriya tbh 16:03:45 <sridhar_ram> #topic Announcements 16:04:29 <sridhar_ram> We are heading towards Newton RC1 target .. 16:04:31 <sridhar_ram> #link https://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html 16:04:39 <diga> Hi 16:04:48 <sridhar_ram> just two more weeks left to wrap up Newton 16:05:04 <sridhar_ram> nothing else to announce from my side 16:05:20 <sripriya> sridhar_ram: when exactly is the server freeze, any specific date? 16:05:57 <sripriya> sridhar_ram: meant tacker main 16:06:27 <sridhar_ram> sripriya: as agreed earlier, that would be Sept 15th 16:06:43 <sripriya> sridhar_ram: thanks 16:07:06 <sridhar_ram> #topic Newton Release Status 16:07:39 <bobh> sridhar_ram: sorry late 16:08:22 <sridhar_ram> sripriya: again, on the deadline.. the reasoning is, once all server patchsets land by Sept 16th we will have one week of buffer time to take care of any critical bugs 16:08:26 <sridhar_ram> bobh: np 16:08:43 <sridhar_ram> btw, s3wong won't be able to make it to this call today 16:09:11 <sridhar_ram> as always, we shd expect few last minute issues / tidy ups to take care 16:09:21 <sripriya> sridhar_ram: ack 16:09:26 <sridhar_ram> any question related to the deadline ? 16:10:00 <sridhar_ram> now, let's go around the outstanding features.. 16:10:22 <sridhar_ram> tung_doan: team: can you give an update on alarm monitoring ? 16:10:27 <tung_doan> sridhar_ram: it is almost done.. Now, just need some minor updates.. if possible, scaling action could be fired in my spec... 16:10:54 <tung_doan> #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/365435/ 16:11:29 <sridhar_ram> tung_doan: thats great.. i know many community members are pitching in.. 16:11:36 <dkushwaha> sridhar_ram, tung_doan I am trying to test the patch with respawn, but getting some issue. 16:11:54 <tung_doan> sridhar_ram: thanks all :) 16:12:21 <sridhar_ram> dkushwaha: can you elaborate ? 16:12:22 <tung_doan> dkushwaha: shoot please 16:12:45 <dkushwaha> sridhar_ram, tung_doan it looks respawn not done, even cpu utilization goes upto limit 16:13:11 <dkushwaha> sridhar_ram, tung_doan i am looking into that 16:13:52 <sridhar_ram> tung_doan: one suggestion in this area, is to starting using audit-event logs introduced recently by KanagarajM and vishwanathj 16:13:53 <tung_doan> other metrics you set the same, dkushwaha? 16:14:21 <dkushwaha> tung_doan, yea 16:14:30 <sridhar_ram> tung_doan: it will serve both as an enhancement and help debugging such situations.. 16:14:35 <tung_doan> sridhar_ram: recognized it.. thanks sridhar 16:14:54 <sridhar_ram> KanagarajM: vishwanathj: please guide tung_doan to add that capability 16:15:00 <vishwanathj> sure 16:15:53 <sridhar_ram> tung_doan: given you are going for an all-in-one patchset .. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/365435/ 16:15:54 <tung_doan> dkushwaha: i thivk the problem from ceilometer side 16:16:14 <sridhar_ram> tung_doan: .. you also need to include unit and func tests as well 16:16:22 <tung_doan> dkushwaha: please try with curl -X POST first to know what happens 16:17:02 <dkushwaha> tung_doan, ok, i will try try with same also 16:17:05 <tung_doan> sridhar_ram: understand.. thanks 16:17:38 <sridhar_ram> tung_doan: great.. i see this feature is coming together, it is going to cut close.. but i'm hopeful this will make it.. 16:17:47 <janki> sridhar_ram, tung_doan: also shouldn't there be a single abstract_drvier file for all monitor drivers? 16:18:19 <sridhar_ram> tacker-cores: can couple of you sign up to review this ? 16:18:50 <tung_doan> janki: we think we already discussed that we should have an abstract driver for them.. could oyu elaborate it? 16:18:51 <sridhar_ram> bobh: given your previous monitoring creds, would you be able give this a scan ? 16:19:24 <bobh> sridhar_ram: I can take a look 16:19:33 <sridhar_ram> bobh: thanks! 16:19:36 <janki> tung_doan, contents of this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/365435/6/tacker/vnfm/monitor_drivers/alarm_abstract_driver.py should be merged with https://github.com/openstack/tacker/blob/master/tacker/vnfm/monitor_drivers/abstract_driver.py 16:19:39 <tung_doan> janki: it is the same with ping, httpping 16:20:20 <janki> tung_doan, yes, I have noticed that. Are all these intentinally kept separate or they will be merged in future/ 16:20:28 <janki> sridhar_ram, your view on this ^^ 16:20:52 * sridhar_ram is looking up 16:21:56 <sridhar_ram> janki: my initial thought is it should be merged.. 16:22:20 <janki> sridhar_ram, +1, for all infra, mgmt and other drivers 16:22:47 <tung_doan> janki: i think we should sepaparat.. in the future, maybe we had a lot of function for drivers 16:23:00 <sridhar_ram> janki: .. only thing we need to be careful is collateral damage to existing non-alarm monitoring like ping, http-ping, custom monitor drivers 16:23:06 <tung_doan> janki: *sepaparat --> separate 16:23:41 <tung_doan> sridhar_ram: that's correct 16:23:51 <sridhar_ram> let's take this specific item to the gerrit.. 16:24:11 <sridhar_ram> janki: good catch, btw!! 16:24:17 <tung_doan> sridhar_ram: I realize that when implementing... 16:24:19 <janki> sridhar_ram, thanks :) 16:24:25 <sridhar_ram> anything else of concern on alarm-mon ? 16:25:27 <sridhar_ram> I'm super glad to see this community coming together as a team to help on this feature! you folks are awesome! 16:25:32 <sridhar_ram> moving onto VNFC 16:25:34 <tung_doan> ok.. thank all guys for looking :) please continue reviewing it 16:25:59 <sridhar_ram> #link https://review.openstack.org/339798 16:26:38 <sridhar_ram> Given where we are in the release window.. i propose we move this feature to Ocata 16:27:26 <sridhar_ram> This is a critical feature and there are still many review comments to be captured, agreed up and .. then to be implemented 16:27:42 <sridhar_ram> we just don't have enough runway to land this 16:27:57 <sridhar_ram> Let's make this (and NSD) as one of the initial features in Ocata 16:28:05 <sridhar_ram> Thoughts ? 16:29:07 <sridhar_ram> tbh: what do you think ? 16:30:00 <tbh> sridhar_ram, Yup, agree, instead of comprimising on features it provide, let's have a detailed discussion and implement completely in Ocata 16:30:15 <sripriya> sridhar_ram: given that we are stilll implementing/reviewing existing rfes/bugs, good to move them to next cycle but we can continue to implement/review the features and patches 16:30:45 <sridhar_ram> tbh: sripriya: thanks.. and i agree 16:31:00 <manikanta_tadi> sridhar_ram: tbh : I do agree with you 16:32:08 <sridhar_ram> tbh: again, just so that we don't loose focus, we can continue the current scope penciled in .. to use Heat SD as the initial VNFC mechanism.. 16:32:37 <sridhar_ram> I'll move the bp to Ocata 16:32:44 <sridhar_ram> moving on.. 16:32:48 <sridhar_ram> VNFFG 16:33:11 <sridhar_ram> trozet: s3wong: provided offline status.. 16:33:34 <sridhar_ram> most pieces should come together by end of this week.. 16:33:55 <sridhar_ram> diga: did you had chance to try the patchsets in your testbed ? 16:34:10 <sridhar_ram> anyone else tried vnffg ? 16:34:26 <diga> sridhar_ram: I am contineously pinging to trozet about it but never got reply from his side 16:35:02 <sridhar_ram> diga: I think he was busy w/ OPNFV commitments last few days.. he shd be available this week 16:35:15 <diga> my setup is ready but need to discuss with him for testing 16:35:15 <sridhar_ram> diga: did anything fail explicitly in your trials ? 16:35:55 <sridhar_ram> diga: fair enough, you probably need an initial cheat sheet of CLIs to fire at this feature ? 16:36:11 <diga> sridhar_ram: yes 16:36:42 <sridhar_ram> diga: alright.. will ping trozet for this 16:36:57 <diga> I am waiting for trozet to provide me details so that I can understand the feature & test it appropriately 16:37:05 <sridhar_ram> i know gongysh was also planning to try this feature out.. more eyes are better :) 16:37:17 <diga> hmm 16:37:21 <sridhar_ram> diga: sounds good.. 16:37:23 <janki> sridhar_ram, diga I believe it should start with creating a vnffgd and then a vnffg based on it 16:37:50 <diga> okay 16:37:52 <trozet> hi diga 16:38:00 <diga> trozet: Hi 16:38:30 <diga> trozet: lets discuss on this feature after the meeting 16:38:35 <trozet> diga: kk 16:39:28 <sridhar_ram> diga: trozet: thanks! 16:39:32 <sridhar_ram> moving on.. 16:39:54 <sridhar_ram> #topic Newton Priority Issues 16:39:56 <diga> sridhar_ram: wc! 16:40:19 <sridhar_ram> beyond major features.. please flag any issues that needs to be fixed for newton 16:40:28 <sridhar_ram> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tacker-newton-release-priority 16:40:37 <sridhar_ram> ^^^ etherpad is still valid.. 16:41:04 <sridhar_ram> before picking any Ocata features, please help out on this for next two weeks... 16:42:06 <sridhar_ram> I also realized we need reviewers for tacker-horizon 16:42:08 <sridhar_ram> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tacker-horizon+status:open 16:42:22 <sridhar_ram> please review them as well 16:43:03 <sridhar_ram> Specifically https://review.openstack.org/349755 and https://review.openstack.org/347779 16:43:17 <sridhar_ram> moving on 16:43:24 <sridhar_ram> #topic Ocata Grooming 16:43:35 <sridhar_ram> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tacker-ocata-grooming 16:44:11 <sridhar_ram> Heads up on Ocata duration.. 16:44:37 <diga> sridhar_ram: when we can start the dev for ocata ? 16:45:00 <sridhar_ram> Ocata is going to be shorter dev cycle than Newton.. it is not the usual 6months window 16:45:31 <sridhar_ram> The guidance from TC is to plan our work to be less than we used to 16:45:55 <diga> okay 16:45:57 <sridhar_ram> diga: we can start by 3rd week of Sept.. 16:46:06 <diga> okay 16:46:27 <sridhar_ram> diga: in fact we can start to review / merge patchsets immediately after stable/newton branch is pulled 16:46:45 <diga> sridhar_ram: okay 16:47:29 <sridhar_ram> Let's continue to start writing blueprints and informally gather ideas in the etherpad above .. so that have enough discussion ahead of the design summit 16:47:59 <sridhar_ram> It will be great to use the design summit to make "final" implementation decisions and go into low-level design 16:47:59 <diga> I will push my spec by tomorrow, due to Ganesh Festival I couldn't do that, but its ready now 16:48:15 <sridhar_ram> diga: is that for API framework ? 16:48:19 <diga> yes 16:48:38 <sridhar_ram> diga: sounds good.. 16:48:56 <diga> sridhar_ram: :) 16:49:01 <mike_m> hi, with regard to the EM module, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tacker/+spec/em-module, I'm not sure if caoyue is writing that? 16:49:30 <diga> sridhar_ram: how many talks are selected from tacker project to summit 16:49:41 <sridhar_ram> diga: btw, for api framework, other projects have use a separate branch to develop the feature and then merge back to the master.. this is something we should consider doing to avoid affecting other features in flight 16:50:24 <diga> sridhar_ram: yep +1 16:50:28 <sridhar_ram> mike_m: i haven't seen a detailed tacker-specs write up beyond that BP request 16:50:51 <mike_m> Just wondering where we go with that, that is something I can help with, but not sure if someone else is picking that up. 16:51:50 <sridhar_ram> mike_m: let's check with caoyue and go from there.. 16:52:17 <mike_m> ok. 16:52:27 <sridhar_ram> mike_m: can you briefly describe your "need" here ? 16:52:47 <sridhar_ram> mike_m: that BP write-up is bit too broad IMO and it needs to be narrowed down 16:53:14 <mike_m> sure. I'd like to see a EM interface on the VNFM so that a EM could interact with the VNFM. 16:53:59 <mike_m> looking at the ETSI specifically, things like life cycle management for specific VNF's, configuration, notification of VNF/VFNS as they become instantiated, etc. 16:55:11 <sridhar_ram> mike_m: okay .. we can put this as an agenda for our upcoming meeting and drill down a bit 16:55:22 <mike_m> ok thanks! 16:55:38 <sridhar_ram> moving on.. 16:55:51 <sridhar_ram> #topic Open Discussion 16:56:20 <sridhar_ram> diga: officially, there is a VNF FFG talk that got accepted for the summit 16:56:45 <diga> sridhar_ram: Gr8! 16:56:47 <sridhar_ram> I believe there are few other talks like the one on OPNFV Domino that is going to touch on Tacker 16:56:59 <sridhar_ram> Folks - anything else ? 16:57:03 <diga> okay 16:57:34 <sridhar_ram> alright .. that's a wrap! 16:57:42 <sridhar_ram> thanks everyone! 16:57:43 <janki> sridhar_ram, there is a bug to move to keystone3 in functional tests. Cann't find its url right now 16:57:57 <janki> sridhar_ram, that needs to go in newton too IMO 16:58:20 <sridhar_ram> janki: sure, let's flag that into our etherpad.. 16:58:34 <janki> sridhar_ram, will do, thanks 16:58:40 <sridhar_ram> we can catchup in #tacker as needed 16:58:48 <sridhar_ram> bye folks 16:58:51 <sridhar_ram> #endmeeting