08:00:42 <hyunsikyang> #startmeeting Tacker
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08:00:55 <hyunsikyang> Hi all
08:01:00 <ricolin> o/
08:01:09 <yasufum> hi
08:01:09 <hyunsikyang> Nice to meet you ricolin
08:01:11 <ricolin> hyunsikyang, keiko-k how's everything
08:01:18 <ricolin> yasufum, o/
08:01:24 <hyunsikyang> everything is good:)
08:01:24 <keiko-k> o/
08:01:29 <takahashi-tsc> Hi, thank you for running meeting.
08:01:32 <hyunsikyang> Hi yasufum
08:01:45 <yasufum> hi
08:02:04 <hyunsikyang> until now, I thought I can't make a meeting. So, I always wating it.
08:02:20 <hyunsikyang> anyway, thank you for join!
08:02:44 <hyunsikyang> #topic discussion PTL for Tacker
08:03:23 <hyunsikyang> Can I check who is here?
08:03:26 <hyunsikyang> again!
08:03:39 <Hiep_MQ> Hi
08:03:41 <takahashi-tsc> Hi
08:03:43 <ricolin> keiko-k, takahashi-tsc yasufum hyunsikyang  and me
08:03:45 <yasufum> Yes, i’m joining
08:03:49 <ricolin> and Hiep_MQ :)
08:03:56 <JangwonLee_> hi
08:04:18 <hyunsikyang> Hi all.
08:04:52 <hyunsikyang> Now, tacker doesn't have PTL now.. So we should decide it quickly for vPTG and next cycle.
08:05:45 <yasufum> yes, i agree
08:06:04 <hyunsikyang> I and yasufum applied. But, elecction due date is over. So, we should find way to elect PTL.
08:06:32 <ricolin> my question again to hyunsikyang and yasufum what's the best way for both of you in this case
08:06:38 <ricolin> an election?:)
08:07:10 <yasufum> I’ve had some talk for making the decision, but not reached yet actually
08:07:50 <yasufum> and it is too late for getting vote now
08:08:31 <yasufum> considering rest of time, i think it is the best way to decide here
08:08:42 <hyunsikyang> I think so.
08:08:48 <yasufum> by hearing opinions from all
08:08:50 <tpatil> yasufum: Hi
08:08:56 <yasufum> hi
08:09:04 <yasufum> thank you for joining
08:09:07 <hyunsikyang> So, Let's discuss it and decide it today
08:09:41 <takahashi-tsc> I agree, we should publish our decision to OpenStack-TC ASAP.
08:10:15 <ricolin> +1 from me, since both of you agree:)
08:10:37 <yasufum> +1
08:10:42 <Hiep_MQ> +1
08:10:54 <ricolin> I will not involve this voting since I'm not a contributor or core in Tacker
08:11:36 <yasufum> unfortuantely, non of cores joining today i dont know why…
08:12:05 <ricolin> so what's the voting range?
08:12:11 <hyunsikyang> yes.. but it is current situation at least two or three month ago.
08:12:45 <yasufum> both of hyunsik and i agree to make long term strategies for growing tacker
08:12:52 <ricolin> hyunsikyang, you mean the core activity drop for last few month?
08:13:21 <hyunsikyang> yes.. So we have done some patches.. but it didn't merge at last cycle.
08:13:35 <hyunsikyang> I requested several times but, they didn't check it..
08:13:41 <ricolin> hyunsikyang, thanks for letting me know
08:13:59 <hyunsikyang> ok
08:14:27 <ricolin> if that block review and releses, we need to figure out how and who can we added in core
08:14:45 <ricolin> anyway,
08:14:49 <hyunsikyang> yes.
08:14:50 <ricolin> voting
08:14:52 <ricolin> :)
08:15:43 <hyunsikyang> I and yasfum won't participate in this vote.
08:15:56 <hyunsikyang> Could ricolin manage it?
08:16:20 <ricolin> sure
08:16:23 <hyunsikyang> But I am not sure how many tacker contributor is here.
08:16:54 <ricolin> how about we send ML with poll voting for most of Tacker contributors from last cycle?
08:17:14 <tpatil> +1
08:17:16 <ricolin> any of you can run it and manage it in that way
08:17:29 <hyunsikyang> until today?
08:17:41 <ricolin> The only deadline here is we need the result before Friday 1200UTC
08:17:49 <hyunsikyang> +1
08:18:00 <ricolin> the rest will all depends on what you guys think the best
08:18:39 <hyunsikyang> Can you have a role that for us?
08:19:20 <ricolin> I can help to run this election if that's what you mean
08:20:02 <hyunsikyang> yes. What about yasufum?
08:20:08 <yasufum> thanks ricolin, i’d agree
08:20:32 <ricolin> okay, let me have some time to collect the list first
08:20:41 <ricolin> and about the deadline for the voting
08:20:56 <ricolin> Thursday 2359 UTC?
08:21:04 <tpatil> +1
08:21:09 <hyunsikyang> +1
08:21:23 <yasufum> +1
08:21:24 <takahashi-tsc> +1
08:21:37 <nitinuikey> +1
08:21:42 <keiko-k> +1
08:22:09 <ricolin> hyunsikyang, feel free to make a action here:)
08:22:15 <hyunsikyang> ok!
08:22:20 <hyunsikyang> #topic open discussion
08:22:22 <ricolin> yasufum, hyunsikyang cheers!:)
08:22:37 <hyunsikyang> thanks for your help ricolin
08:22:42 <hyunsikyang> Hi all again.
08:22:49 <yasufum> thanks
08:22:52 <hyunsikyang> as a candidancy and tackr member I am so happy to join NTT and NEC guys.
08:23:44 <hyunsikyang> We can make a better together. I also spend more time for tacker and review.
08:25:56 <hyunsikyang> any discussion?
08:26:13 <tpatil> Request you all to please review  patches: https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:bp/support-etsi-nfv-specs+(status:open)
08:28:04 <hyunsikyang> OK. I will see:) thanks. yasufum  anything from your side?
08:28:46 <hyunsikyang> I have a two patch that almost done. please review this. anyone!
08:28:47 <hyunsikyang> https://review.opendev.org/#/c/677866/
08:28:50 <takahashi-tsc> Are there any topics or patches left unreviewed?
08:28:58 <hyunsikyang> https://review.opendev.org/#/c/674761/
08:29:01 <yasufum> I’ve tried to proceed merging process
08:29:26 <yasufum> but it is required for more effort
08:29:42 <hyunsikyang> okie. thanks.
08:30:13 <yasufum> I’d like to recovey such a situation and it is main purpose for election for PTL
08:30:55 <yasufum> anyway, i hope you will join to review more for proceeding
08:31:34 <yasufum> i also request you if you will PTL that
08:32:00 <hyunsikyang> ok I try to spend more time for review even I am not a PTL.
08:32:03 <yasufum> taking care about lifecycle of the community
08:32:34 <yasufum> because posted request on ML are ignored usually, or bug reports are the same.
08:33:41 <yasufum> thanks for your help until now and in the future
08:33:42 <hyunsikyang> Yes, last time I also got email, but, u aleady replied it. I will ping it too.
08:34:44 <hyunsikyang> thanks for your effort. You are working in the telco company, it really helps to tacker team:)
08:35:01 <hyunsikyang> any issue from anyone?
08:35:27 <hyunsikyang> If no one has any issue, I will close the meeting.
08:35:31 <takahashi-tsc> One proposal. I heard form other company that Tacker development seems stop. 1 reason is wiki is not updated. I'd like to propose update wiki.
08:36:08 <hyunsikyang> oh...
08:36:18 <yasufum> i am also thinking about, and how to
08:36:24 <hyunsikyang> I will find a way to fix it.
08:36:35 <takahashi-tsc> We are actually proceeding development. We can publish it in wiki page.
08:37:26 <keiko-k> To update wiki, is there any "consensus" scheme?
08:37:50 <yasufum> i’m not sure about...
08:38:05 <keiko-k> Every contributors can edit and upload wiki without core members acceptance?
08:38:14 <keiko-k> Just a question
08:38:22 <takahashi-tsc> I think no rule in OpenStack, we can decide the rule.
08:38:30 <keiko-k> I see thanks
08:38:37 <yasufum> or we may need to ask someone cores
08:39:22 <yasufum> i appreciate if takahashi-san ask it to dhar-san
08:39:29 <yasufum> if possible
08:39:55 <hyunsikyang> I think we can edit it.
08:40:28 <yasufum> yes, but i have considered about checking process
08:40:56 <yasufum> how keep the quality of contents
08:41:33 <takahashi-tsc> I think we can edit, because I asked dhar if I can edit wiki page before and he said OK. Anyway I ask him.
08:42:06 <yasufum> thanks
08:42:10 <hyunsikyang> I checked. we can edit . I wonder that how we gurantee the quality of wiki like yasufum said.
08:42:52 <takahashi-tsc> But I think we should decide rule. And a rough rule can be OK.
08:42:59 <hyunsikyang> ah.
08:43:03 <hyunsikyang> Okie.
08:43:08 <yasufum> i agree
08:43:35 <hyunsikyang> why don't we check the content you want update in the meeting and upload it by PTL.
08:43:41 <hyunsikyang> ?
08:43:50 <hyunsikyang> or core members.
08:46:16 <yasufum> it seems good for me.
08:46:48 <yasufum> decide later more collectly if anyone has no urgent update for wiki
08:47:32 <hyunsikyang> yes.
08:47:37 <hyunsikyang> +1
08:47:38 <yasufum> i have some comments for patches from hyunsikyang
08:47:46 <yasufum> ok?
08:47:47 <hyunsikyang> yes. go ahead.
08:48:07 <yasufum> i already commented on first one and added +1
08:48:15 <hyunsikyang> I checked your commemt and updated it.
08:48:19 <yasufum> and asking cores to be merged now
08:48:22 <hyunsikyang> thanks for your review.
08:48:42 <hyunsikyang> I don't have right for merging.. it should be merged last cycle.
08:49:02 <yasufum> for the second one, you need to be reviewed again, but he might not aware about
08:49:27 <yasufum> i would like to confirm him so it is reviewed if possible.
08:49:40 <yasufum> that’s all
08:49:54 <hyunsikyang> thanks yasufum! really.
08:50:37 <hyunsikyang> If there are no more agenda items, we will end the meeting.
08:51:05 <yasufum> i have no agenda now
08:51:10 <hyunsikyang> let's discuss left thing in tacker channel anytime.
08:51:14 <hyunsikyang> ok
08:51:17 <hyunsikyang> bye.
08:51:19 <hyunsikyang> #endmeeting