08:07:56 <hyunsikyang__> #startmeeting Tacker 08:07:56 <openstack> Meeting started Tue May 19 08:07:56 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hyunsikyang__. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 08:07:57 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 08:07:59 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'tacker' 08:08:01 <openstack> yasufum: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. 08:08:11 <keiko-k> Thanks 08:08:18 <hyunsikyang__> sorry I just try test it.. 08:08:23 <keiko-k> that's okay 08:08:28 <yasufum> thanks 08:09:06 <hyunsikyang__> What is the today's topic? 08:09:14 <yasufum> I would like to continue discussion for networking-sfc today 08:09:19 <hyunsikyang__> can we discuss about networing-sfc? 08:09:21 <hyunsikyang__> ok 08:09:35 <hyunsikyang__> #topic networking-sfc 08:09:35 <yasufum> although takahashi-san does not join yet 08:09:53 <yasufum> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tacker-meeting 08:10:46 <hyunsikyang__> Our team try to cover networking-sfc part:) 08:10:55 <amotoki> hi 08:10:58 <amotoki> I am here from the neutron perspective. I originally raised networking-sfc topic to takahashi-san internally. 08:11:02 <hyunsikyang__> Hi amotoki 08:11:06 <yasufum> hi 08:11:10 <keiko-k> hello 08:11:16 <hyunsikyang__> hi 08:11:17 <masazumi-ota> hi 08:11:19 <ueha> hi 08:11:26 <amotoki> go ahead :) 08:12:26 <hyunsikyang__> So, we will start it from the current status of networking sfc in tacker. 08:13:15 <hyunsikyang__> As a perspective of tacker, it is important features. So, I want to maintain it. 08:14:07 <yasufum> Do you mean as a core reviwer? 08:15:18 <hyunsikyang__> yes. 08:16:05 <yasufum> I can contribute as a +1 reviwer. 08:16:55 <hyunsikyang__> thx. It is good feature for tacker. We will start to check networking sfc feature in tacker internally. 08:17:19 <yasufum> amotoki, do you know how many contributers required for maintaining the project roughly? 08:17:42 <amotoki> yasufum: roughly speaking, there is NO contirbutors specific to networking-sfc. 08:18:06 <amotoki> neutron core team is helping the sfc reviews from the maintenance perspectivve 08:18:24 <amotoki> but the neutron core team have no good knowledge on sfc features. 08:18:45 <amotoki> it just covers gate failures and topics which are neutron-wide. 08:18:50 <amotoki> that's the current status. 08:19:36 <amotoki> so it would be nice if folks from tacker team can be involved in reviews in networkng-sfc. 08:20:05 <amotoki> yasufum: sorry. I misunderstood your question. 08:20:18 <amotoki> your question was how many contributors are required. 08:20:24 <yasufum> yes 08:20:35 <amotoki> I am not sure the right number 08:21:26 <amotoki> I think we can do small start just by checking reviews and so on together. 08:21:38 <hyunsikyang__> right 08:22:32 <amotoki> perhaps what we need is volunteers for reviewing/triaging bugs from feature perspective. 08:22:55 <yasufum> neuron cores continue add +2 for merging, right? 08:23:20 <hyunsikyang__> amotoki, If you know the feature link, please update it here. 08:23:28 <amotoki> yasufum: what do you mean by "add +2"? 08:23:59 <yasufum> I wonder how we check and merge patches 08:24:41 <yasufum> Merging patch requires one or two +2 basically, right? 08:24:53 <amotoki> yasufum: yes, +W right is needed. 08:24:57 <amotoki> there are several options to start. 08:25:35 <amotoki> the one is to consider +1 from folks familiar with sfc (like tacker team) as +2 and merge patches by the neutron team 08:25:51 <amotoki> the other is to add tacker team to the netwokring-sfc core team. 08:26:22 <yasufum> I see 08:26:38 <yasufum> I though second one, but I understand it can be flexible. 08:27:39 <amotoki> the first one would be a step to networking-sfc core reviewers. 08:27:59 <amotoki> the second option sounds like a co-maintenance of netwokring-sfc by neutron and tacker team together. 08:28:13 <amotoki> I have no strong option on this. 08:29:34 <amotoki> co-maintenace sounds a good option. 08:29:40 <amotoki> for example, the horizon team do similar for horizon plugins. 08:30:17 <takahashi-tsc> Sorry for late... 08:30:20 <yasufum> hi 08:30:25 <hyunsikyang__> Hi 08:32:48 <yasufum> I am not sure about scheme of co-maintenance, but it seems good. 08:34:34 <amotoki> what are unclear? for example, what roles are expected? 08:34:52 <yasufum> yes, that’s right 08:35:33 <yasufum> but I can learn from 08:36:02 <amotoki> from the neutron governance perspective, we have point of contacts per sub project like networking-sfc 08:36:11 <amotoki> https://docs.openstack.org/neutron/latest/contributor/policies/neutron-teams.html#sub-project-lieutenants 08:37:08 <amotoki> it is called as "Lieutenants " in the neutron team 08:38:15 <yasufum> thanks 08:38:27 <hyunsikyang__> Like a before, why don't you take a role of lieutenant? yasufum? 08:39:05 <amotoki> the reason I raised this topic this time is we didn't do it officially. 08:39:36 <amotoki> I talked with dharmendra directly and he said he could be a contact for netwokring-sfc in Ussuri cycle. 08:39:54 <hyunsikyang__> ah. 08:40:03 <amotoki> I think it is better to disucss it as a team. 08:40:13 <hyunsikyang__> OK. I thought he left this team:) 08:40:27 <amotoki> yeah, he changed companies during ussuri cycle. 08:41:38 <yasufum> hyunsikyang: I am not sure to make a time for the role now. 08:42:03 <yasufum> pls continue to talk on next meeting or tacker IRC. 08:42:14 <amotoki> personally (from my hat of neutron) it would be great if the tacker team is involved in development of networking-sfc. 08:42:35 <yasufum> I think so 08:42:57 <hyunsikyang__> thanks amotoki, we are trying to join for that. 08:43:45 <hyunsikyang__> if dharmendra can do it continueously, just leave it. 08:44:01 <hyunsikyang__> and tacker team just support it. 08:45:26 <amotoki> let me summarize what the neutron team do on a stadium project. I think it helps better understanding. 08:45:31 <hyunsikyang__> Anyway, now tacker team have a consensus about joining networking-sfc, let's decide concrete plan for that. 08:45:40 <hyunsikyang__> yes 08:45:59 <hyunsikyang__> If you have a time, please share it anytime in tacker IRC. 08:46:12 <amotoki> hyunsikyang__: sure. what is better? 08:46:53 <amotoki> hyunsikyang__: I am usually not there, so I can join when needed. 08:47:06 <amotoki> s/what/when/ 08:47:40 <hyunsikyang__> ok. 08:48:06 <amotoki> I think you have more topics in this meeting. let's cover it later. 08:48:13 <hyunsikyang__> OK:) 08:48:27 <yasufum> thanks, amotoki 08:48:41 <hyunsikyang__> let's make a list for that later and decide it during the vPTG. 08:49:49 <hyunsikyang__> thanks. 08:50:06 <hyunsikyang__> yasufum, do we have more topic, today? 08:50:20 <yasufum> yes, 08:50:42 <yasufum> do you some other topics, everyone? 08:51:03 <yasufum> for next PTG, or patch review 08:51:08 <yasufum> or so 08:51:24 <hyunsikyang__> I don't have it. today. 08:51:56 <yoshito-ito> let me ask about C-VNF topic in vPTG 08:52:20 <yasufum> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/Tacker-PTG-Victoria 08:52:21 <hyunsikyang__> ok:) 08:52:56 <yoshito-ito> I'm preparing a spec for CNF operation based on ETSI specifications 08:53:21 <hyunsikyang__> you mean that CISM? 08:53:31 <hyunsikyang__> we are also prepare it. if CISM is right. 08:53:41 <yoshito-ito> Yes 08:54:28 <yoshito-ito> I assume we can extend the existing Kubernete infra driver to support vnflcm related operation as VNF 08:54:34 <hyunsikyang__> right 08:54:41 <hyunsikyang__> So we are preparing it. 08:55:15 <hyunsikyang__> Now, kubernetes in tacker is not scalable, and not correspond to ETSI spec. 08:55:19 <hyunsikyang__> So, It needs it. 08:55:32 <yoshito-ito> then how about sharing the specs before vPTG? 08:55:45 <hyunsikyang__> what is the mean of spec? 08:55:47 <hyunsikyang__> blueprint? 08:56:00 <yoshito-ito> blueprint and spec for V cycle 08:56:08 <hyunsikyang__> okie:) good. 08:57:21 <yoshito-ito> I'll talk to yasufum how to share our specs and let me discuss at IRC or next meeting 08:58:06 <hyunsikyang__> ok 08:58:15 <yoshito-ito> thanks 08:59:12 <amotoki> does anyone add the networking-sfc topic to the vPTG etherpad? 08:59:13 <yasufum> I think it is OK to share your draft on etherpad if possible 08:59:24 <amotoki> If so I can add my note there. 09:00:13 <amotoki> sorry for interrupt.... 09:00:23 <takahashi-tsc> OK, I add it amotoki 09:00:23 <yasufum> no problem. it is welcome 09:00:48 <amotoki> takahashi-tsc: thanks 09:00:53 <hyunsikyang__> thanks all 09:01:30 <yasufum> can we wrap up because it is the end of the time? 09:01:45 <hyunsikyang__> ok Let's finish it. 09:01:49 <yasufum> if anyone has a topic 09:02:03 <yasufum> does not has a topic,sorry 09:02:24 <yasufum> thanks hyunsikyang 09:02:35 <hyunsikyang__> ok. let's finish it and if someone has a topic,let's talk in tacker IRC 09:02:36 <hyunsikyang__> #endmeeting