08:02:31 <yasufum> #startmeeting tacker
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08:03:54 <Liang> hi
08:04:19 <yasufum> I have a topic about tosca-parser and heat-translator installation
08:04:32 <yasufum> as described in our etherpad
08:04:37 <yasufum> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tacker-meeting
08:05:09 <yasufum> Do you have any other topic?
08:05:30 <takahashi-tsc> I have 2 topics, 1st is similar as yasufum's tosca-parser and heat-translator discusstion on ML Maybe we can talk about it at the same time.
08:05:46 <takahashi-tsc> 2nd is about discuttion with TST on this Thursday.
08:06:29 <yasufum> ok
08:08:02 <yasufum> Could you start from your 1st topic? I would like to talk about my suggestion then.
08:08:31 <takahashi-tsc> Sure.
08:09:43 <takahashi-tsc> from me, 1st is just information. I send email to ML about tosca-parser and heat-translator maintenance. As a result, some Tacker members can join core team.
08:10:14 <takahashi-tsc> Core of tosca-parser and heat-translator and tc and Heat PTL agreed. So I think we can proceed.
08:12:58 <takahashi-tsc> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-November/019090.html
08:15:14 <yoshito-ito> What will be the next step? Provide a list of members in Tacker core to tosca-parser and heat-translator?
08:16:57 <takahashi-tsc> Hmm, I proposed it in another email, but now no reply. I will send it again to Bob, so we should decide a list of members who will be core of those projects.
08:17:57 <takahashi-tsc> 'it' means that Tacker should provide a list of members. Anyway we should decide the members.
08:18:48 <yasufum> Are there same members maintaining tosca-parser and heat-translator?
08:20:42 <takahashi-tsc> Your question is about current core? Or future core team structure?
08:20:48 <yasufum> I am concerning is that we need to make contribution for both of projects.
08:22:48 <takahashi-tsc> Do you mean that we should make 2 team of different members for 2 projects?
08:23:12 <yasufum> Yes, possibly
08:25:40 <yasufum> I am not sure who shold do the contribution, want to know how we do that to become a core.
08:26:35 <yasufum> Need to contribute for both, or just one project?
08:27:41 <yasufum> Or do we need to have a discussion with core members of the projects to clear them?
08:28:44 <takahashi-tsc> I think just one project is OK. These 2 are different projects and have separated project core team.
08:28:51 <takahashi-tsc> https://review.opendev.org/admin/groups/66028971dcbb58add6f0e7c17ac72643c4826956,members
08:28:57 <takahashi-tsc> https://review.opendev.org/admin/groups/1f7855baf3cf14fedf72e443eef18d844bcd43fa,members
08:29:28 <takahashi-tsc> But it's good to discuss your concerns with Bob.
08:30:33 <yasufum> Understand
08:30:57 <takahashi-tsc> OK, I confirm to Bob. And in parallel, we make 2 team for 2 projects. Is it OK?
08:31:45 <yasufum> OK, thanks
08:34:38 <yasufum> yoshito-ito: Is it clear about the next step?
08:34:47 <yoshito-ito> Yes, thank you.
08:35:37 <yasufum> without who joins the project from tacker team :)
08:35:41 <takahashi-tsc> How about each member write the name in etherpad?
08:35:48 <takahashi-tsc> https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tacker-meeting
08:35:49 <takahashi-tsc> L548-
08:36:59 <yasufum> thanks, looks good.
08:37:39 <yasufum> I hope you will join, team!
08:38:02 <yasufum> I would like to go to the next item.
08:39:18 <takahashi-tsc> Next is TST from me?
08:39:23 <yasufum> Change installation of tosca-parser and heat-translator from using pip to git repo
08:39:30 <takahashi-tsc> Sorry, go ahead
08:41:10 <yasufum> I think it is better to install from git repo because we need to make a tacker’s requirement sometimes.
08:41:31 <yasufum> In this case, we need to wait until pip package is updated.
08:42:28 <yasufum> If we can install from git repo, we do not need to wait for.
08:42:48 <takahashi-tsc> +1
08:42:52 <yasufum> I would like to confirm that this change cause some problem
08:42:57 <yasufum> what do you think?
08:43:02 <yasufum> takahashi-tsc: thanks
08:43:37 <yasufum> I think there is no problem for the change.
08:43:50 <yoshito-ito> +1
08:44:01 <manpreet> +1
08:44:56 <yasufum> Thanks. I have tried to update our devstack script for the change, and will upload in two or three days.
08:45:11 <yasufum> That all from me.
08:45:36 <yasufum> takahashi-tsc: Please go to your topic
08:46:33 <takahashi-tsc> Sure, this Thursday, NFV-TST has a meetings. I want to join and discuss.
08:46:48 <takahashi-tsc> This agenda is about pre-conditions.
08:47:04 <takahashi-tsc> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1oQLfOP-pB4a8LDBBosPZ7E9P97Ig74fkmvNJq41RCCk/edit#slide=id.p2
08:48:06 <takahashi-tsc> I think I will not explain details, but I propose to decide who and how maintain the pre-condition implementation.
08:52:05 <takahashi-tsc> Is there any other topics about testing? I have no time but if there is some important topic, I can explain it in the meeting.
08:53:31 <takahashi-tsc> (Sorry for a sudden suggestion ...)
08:53:43 <yoshito-ito> Nothing from me. And I believe the topic is already discussed in PTG, so I hope TST members will clarify the responsibility of pre-condition.
08:54:20 <takahashi-tsc> Yes, thanks. I think the most important thing is "clarify the responsibility"
08:54:27 <yasufum> I do not have any idea just now, but I think it is good to start for our next release.
08:57:00 <yasufum> Is there any other comments?
08:57:56 <yasufum> OK, thanks.
08:58:02 <takahashi-tsc> thanks
08:58:24 <yoshito-ito> We are almost running out the time, but let me share my topic.
08:58:36 <yasufum> Do you have any other topic?
08:58:49 <yasufum> yoshito-ito: OK, go ahead
08:58:53 <yoshito-ito> Thanks
08:59:01 <yoshito-ito> I will also have a discussion with ETSI NFV IFA/SOL members this Friday.
08:59:11 <yoshito-ito> The topic is CNF orchestration and the purpose are; 1. To share our implementation based on ETSI NFV and 2. To discuss the challenges in our implementation.
08:59:58 <yoshito-ito> Sorry for sudden suggestion, too.
09:00:32 <yoshito-ito> The discussion is based on the Spec already discussed in PTG.
09:01:10 <yoshito-ito> So I believe we have the same direction but let me share the slide tommorrow in ML and etherpad.
09:01:27 <yoshito-ito> I added the new topic 11 in the etherpad.
09:01:29 <yoshito-ito> https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tacker-meeting
09:02:06 <yoshito-ito> do you have any questions or comments?
09:02:46 <takahashi-tsc> Thanks, I'll check your slide.
09:03:14 <yoshito-ito> Thank you.
09:04:08 <yasufum> Thanks for your suggestion, yoshito-ito.
09:04:44 <yasufum> seems no more comments
09:04:58 <yasufum> I would like to wrap up this meeting.
09:05:11 <yasufum> Thanks for joining, bye!
09:05:14 <yoshito-ito> thank you, bye!
09:05:18 <takahashi-tsc> Thank you, bye.
09:05:20 <manpreet> bye
09:05:27 <yasufum> #endmeeting