08:04:15 <yasufum> #startmeeting tacker
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08:06:22 <yasufum> I think we have three topics today. Please suggest if you have other ones.
08:06:56 <yasufum> spec review, recent failures on gerrit and “tosca-parser and heat-translator”
08:07:16 <takahashi-tsc> I have two topics, about heat-translator/tosca-parser(sorry for not sending email...) and report about discussion with TST.
08:08:50 <yasufum> OK
08:10:04 <yasufum> I would like to start from first topic because it is short.
08:10:20 <yasufum> Just asking for reviewing.
08:11:27 <yasufum> We have several specs waiting to be merged. I have already +2 for specs looking OK.
08:11:58 <yasufum> Could you also review the specs if there is no problem.
08:12:50 <yasufum> If no comments for the topic, I would like to go to the next one.
08:13:02 <yoshito-ito> Thanks yasufum, I have 6 specs remained. 5 of 6 got +2 from you, and I hope other members to check them, too.
08:13:27 <takahashi-tsc> I'll check them in this week, sorry for late.
08:13:36 <yasufum> Thanks
08:13:41 <yoshito-ito> Great, thanks.
08:14:05 <keiko-k> Thanks.
08:14:17 <yasufum> #topic failure-in-lower-constraints
08:14:51 <yasufum> My second topic is for a failure have happend since yesterday.
08:15:12 <yasufum> some imcompatibility in lower-constraints.txt
08:16:17 <yasufum> I have tried to fix the failure, but still need more time.
08:16:58 <yasufum> I think it might be caused by a recent updates of depending packages.
08:17:23 <takahashi-tsc> Could you access gerrit web now? I cannot access...
08:18:26 <yoshito-ito> Oh, it seems down. I succcessfully accessed it just a few minutes!
08:18:52 <manpreet> yes it was working earlier...seems down now
08:18:52 <yasufum> For now, I have found that two packages, but could be more possibly...
08:19:34 <yasufum> Oops… anyway, I would like to fix the problem as soon as possible.
08:20:08 <takahashi-tsc> Thanks, I also check it.
08:20:56 <yasufum> Please wait for your patches until it is fixed. Thanks.
08:21:55 <yasufum> OK. It seems we can go to my third topic, and it must be the same as takahashi-tsc.
08:22:12 <yasufum> #topic tosca-parser-heat-translator
08:23:22 <yasufum> I think we are ready to talk with the teams because there are enough people for contributing as cores.
08:24:14 <yasufum> Thanks for listing your name on etherpad.
08:24:54 <yasufum> takahashi-tsc: What do you think?
08:25:13 <takahashi-tsc> First, I forget to send email to ML about making 2 teams for 2 projects(heat-translator and torca-parser). I'll send it today.
08:27:01 <takahashi-tsc> And I have 1 concerns, now almost members write their name in both 2 projects. Of course I'd like to do both activities, but I think we should decide *main* a projects.
08:27:43 <yasufum> I think so
08:29:39 <takahashi-tsc> Anyway, I send email to Bob that we are ready to join 2 projects. Would you decide your own main project?
08:30:35 <yasufum> For me, either is fine actually, but I will do that.
08:31:30 <takahashi-tsc> That's all from me about this topic.
08:32:54 <yasufum> Liang: what do you think?
08:36:08 <yasufum> It seems he is leaving … ?
08:36:36 <yasufum> If no more comments, go to the next topic.
08:36:58 <yasufum> #topic discussion-tst
08:37:38 <takahashi-tsc> It is my agenda, right?
08:37:47 <yasufum> yes
08:40:17 <Liang> sorry for late reaction, I agree with have a main project! and I would like to put heat-translator for my main.
08:40:29 <takahashi-tsc> OK, I discussed how to implement and maintain pre-conditions code. Continuous discussion has been accepted, but my request is not fully accepted.
08:41:52 <takahashi-tsc> The need for discussion and reporting of specs bugs of pre-conditions was accepted. My team will continue them.
08:43:46 <takahashi-tsc> They do not think *implementations of code for per-condition* is needed. There are 2 aspects.
08:44:40 <takahashi-tsc> 1st is, they think pre-condition is not scope of TST. I'm not sure it is correct. So I'll continue to discuss.
08:46:13 <takahashi-tsc> 2nd is, they doubt need of pre-conditions. Someone said some chain(e.g. create->instantiate->delete) is only needed, and it is difficult to make all preconditions code.
08:48:06 <takahashi-tsc> My team has discussed it before, so we can understand it... But anyway, we'll develop our pre-condition code for us, and will discuss with TST with such our output.
08:48:50 <takahashi-tsc> Probably, detailed discussions would not be possible without such concrete output.
08:49:11 <takahashi-tsc> That's all. Is there any questions?
08:50:18 <yoshito-ito> Thank you takahashi-san.
08:50:47 <yoshito-ito> As Tacker side, how to proceed the test with RobotFramework?
08:51:31 <yoshito-ito> Can we get your first implementaion in Tacker? Or just in your env and for the discussion with TST?
08:55:05 <takahashi-tsc> We plan to implement pre-condition code and merge into tacker repository.
08:55:48 <takahashi-tsc> Current plan is making pre-conditions for each API using Robot as possible. I think pre-condition using API in SOL should be Robot.But I some pre-conditions cannot be implemented as API execution. Such code will become tacker original code.
08:57:05 <yoshito-ito> OK, then let me discuss with your code on Gerrit! Thanks.
08:57:28 <takahashi-tsc> Yes, thanks.
08:59:52 <yasufum> When do you roughly think share your code? In wallaby, or later?
09:01:07 <takahashi-tsc> For Basic API is In wallaby, such as create vnf, instantiate, terminamte and delete. Others will be in later.
09:01:48 <yasufum> Fine!
09:03:00 <yasufum> Thanks for proceeding further discussion with TST, and implementation.
09:04:09 <yasufum> I believe your contribution will make takcer far more greater.
09:04:34 <takahashi-tsc> Thanks
09:05:07 <yasufum> If you have no more comments for the topic, I would like to close this meeting today.
09:05:46 <yasufum> Good. Thanks for joining. Bye!
09:06:26 <yasufum> #endmeeting