08:04:43 <yasufum> #startmeeting tacker
08:04:44 <openstack> Meeting started Tue Dec 15 08:04:43 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is yasufum. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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08:04:47 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'tacker'
08:05:24 <yasufum> We have five topics on our etherpad today.
08:05:29 <yasufum> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tacker-meeting
08:07:01 <yasufum> My three topics are just FIY and asking review, it no need to discuss actually
08:07:47 <keiko-k> Me too. my topic is also just FYI.
08:08:41 <yasufum> keiko-k: could you expain shortly?
08:08:49 <keiko-k> yes
08:09:57 <keiko-k> those 2 specs are planned in Wallaby cycle. However, because of the priority of development items from our team,
08:10:31 <keiko-k> we postpone to develop those spec items in wallaby cycle
08:10:45 <keiko-k> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tacker-specs/+/759658
08:10:50 <keiko-k> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tacker-specs/+/759655
08:11:30 <keiko-k> We will plan to implement them in X cycle or later.
08:13:07 <yasufum> thanks for sharing
08:14:33 <keiko-k> we will update both existing blueprint and spec appropriately.
08:15:06 <keiko-k> So right now I do not make the spec `abandoned` and
08:15:17 <keiko-k> and not delete blueprints.
08:15:26 <yasufum> OK
08:15:45 <keiko-k> That's all from my side.
08:16:15 <yasufum> I think there is no problem if it is not released in wallaby because no plans other features depend on them.
08:17:25 <keiko-k> right
08:17:39 <yasufum> go to the next topic if there are no comments
08:18:07 <yasufum> #topic tosca-parser-heat-translator-installation
08:19:04 <yasufum> As I suggested in previous meeting, I have uploaded a patch to make install these packages from git repo.
08:19:25 <yasufum> It looks working fine.
08:19:39 <yasufum> #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tacker/+/765296
08:20:34 <yasufum> Please review  and give a comment!
08:21:57 <yasufum> If no comments, go to the next topic.
08:22:28 <yasufum> #topic lower-constraints-issue
08:23:24 <yasufum> As you may know, we have had a failure in a test for lower-constraints
08:23:46 <yasufum> It is because of recent update of pip on zuul
08:24:22 <yasufum> version 20.3.1, in which new dependency resolver is introduced.
08:25:12 <yasufum> This failure is happened not only in tacker, but also other projects.
08:26:04 <yasufum> For tacker, I have already fixed for master branch, but I am not sure If we should fix on stable branches or not actually.
08:26:27 <yasufum> In addition, discussion for dropping lower-constraints test on ML.
08:26:33 <yasufum> is going on
08:27:08 <yasufum> So, I would like to consider while looking the discussion for making the decision later.
08:27:31 <yasufum> I appreciate if you comment, now or on etherpad later is OK.
08:27:54 <yasufum> Please refer 12th item for the details.
08:28:03 <hyunsikyang> ok:)
08:29:02 <yasufum> thanks
08:29:29 <yasufum> any comment?
08:29:52 <yasufum> OK
08:30:18 <yasufum> My last item is tiny.
08:30:33 <yasufum> Next week is the last of our meeting this year.
08:30:56 <yasufum> We need to fix when we start in the next year.
08:31:42 <yasufum> I will update candidate date on etherpad later, so please your comment.
08:32:16 <hyunsikyang> ok. Thank you for your contribution!
08:32:27 <takahashi-tsc> Sure, thanks.
08:32:36 <yasufum> I will announce on ML after decided.
08:32:49 <LiangLu> sure!
08:33:10 <yasufum> takahashi-tsc: Please go to the next topic
08:33:19 <takahashi-tsc> Sure.
08:33:23 <yasufum> #topic add-new-ft
08:34:15 <takahashi-tsc> I'd like to propose to add new FT set. See https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tacker/+/766162
08:35:15 <takahashi-tsc> Main purpose is we need new test environments with some GrantAPI settings of Tacker. We should separate test env.
08:36:41 <takahashi-tsc> it can also solve FT time problem.
08:37:38 <takahashi-tsc> I remember that our FT time is about 2hours, it is near the limitation of OpenStack Zuul (3 hours)
08:38:21 <takahashi-tsc> In addition, I found a patch which purpose seems similar.  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tacker/+/766886
08:38:55 <takahashi-tsc> It is for K8s. I think it is also needed.
08:40:29 <takahashi-tsc> Discussion points are..  1. Do you agree with this?  2. If yes, do we need some new rules or developer docs of FT?
08:43:04 <hyunsikyang> In my opinion, I think that some part of supporting K8s cluster setup is not scope of MANO. But, we are implementing ths feature, we also need FT for that. At first, we listup the item for FT and then we can discuss what item we will support.
08:45:03 <yasufum> Thanks
08:45:54 <yasufum> I think adding new tests run in pallalel is nice idea to avoid timeout error.
08:45:58 <yasufum> basically
08:46:34 <hyunsikyang> I aggree with that point:)
08:46:38 <yasufum> but now I am not sure about rules and documentation actually
08:48:14 <takahashi-tsc> I mean that docs which show the FT set list and their explanations.
08:48:54 <takahashi-tsc> List maybe e.g. "Standard", "Separated NFVO", and "Kubernetes".
08:49:35 <takahashi-tsc> I think developer can understand it checking .zuul.yaml. But it is better to explain to developers.
08:50:26 <takahashi-tsc> I'm not sure it is mandatory or not, so I want Tacker team's comment.
08:50:45 <yasufum> sounds good for me
08:51:04 <LiangLu> I believe that is really nice for developers
08:52:09 <yasufum> I have just imagined it is helpful if we have sequence diagram or so to understand our test flow.
08:53:20 <yasufum> takahashi-tsc: anyway, I understand your suggestion
08:54:05 <takahashi-tsc> OK, so my plan is, first I add new FT set (https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tacker/+/766162), next is make draft docs of FT.
08:55:34 <takahashi-tsc> And I'd like to discuss contexts of FT docs with Tacker members.
08:59:07 <yasufum> Could you add your idea of how to organize the docs in 7th items on the etherpad if possible?
08:59:37 <yasufum> “Revise documents” from yoshito-ito
09:00:22 <takahashi-tsc> Sure, i wrote note now, And i'll update it later.
09:00:37 <yasufum> Thanks. I will check it.
09:01:59 <yasufum> If no more comments, I would like close this meeting.
09:03:04 <yasufum> thanks for joining
09:03:06 <yasufum> bye
09:03:11 <hyunsikyang> bye
09:03:14 <takahashi-tsc> bye
09:03:21 <yasufum> #endmeeting