08:04:15 <yasufum> #startmeeting tacker
08:04:15 <openstack> Meeting started Tue Dec 22 08:04:15 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is yasufum. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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08:04:19 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'tacker'
08:05:32 <yasufum> I have no topics today
08:06:32 <takahashi-tsc> I have 2 topics, not so big.
08:08:17 <yasufum> OK, go ahead please
08:09:11 <takahashi-tsc> First is about adding separated FT. Sorry for the late.. But I found 1 issue.
08:09:22 <takahashi-tsc> See Etherpad https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tacker-meeting
08:09:30 <takahashi-tsc> L595
08:09:49 <takahashi-tsc> We cannot change tacker config in current Tacker FT, because gawk is not installed in controler-tacker node.
08:10:24 <takahashi-tsc> So I'll make some workaround, but I think we should report to devstack team.
08:11:33 <takahashi-tsc> This is just infromation... But I think it is important information because other member is also considering add new FT set.
08:12:46 <yasufum> understand
08:13:17 <takahashi-tsc> Any comments or questions?
08:14:30 <yasufum> seems good, please go to next
08:14:53 <takahashi-tsc> OK, next is about DB refactoring. ehterpad L603-
08:15:28 <takahashi-tsc> NEC already post patch and someone added comments. very thanks!
08:16:07 <takahashi-tsc> But DB changing is big decision. So I want Tacker members comment about big direction.
08:17:49 <takahashi-tsc> I already added 1 discussion in NEC L617-. Not use DB and get information using API. As a result, we think it is difficult.
08:19:41 <takahashi-tsc> I want such discussion points or other suggestions.
08:20:57 <takahashi-tsc> It's also OK after this meeting.
08:21:15 <yasufum> Can you share the url of the patch?
08:21:39 <yasufum> on etherpad one?
08:21:44 <takahashi-tsc> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tacker/+/763955
08:21:55 <takahashi-tsc> Etherpad L603
08:22:00 <yasufum> thx
08:24:16 <ueha> Takahashi-san, I have one question. This `class VnfInfo` on etherpad seems to specialize for Openstack data. Does not use this DB in kubernetes infra driver?
08:27:49 <takahashi-tsc> I see... it is good point. We should consider design of whole VNF data...
08:32:46 <takahashi-tsc> Having OpenStack-specific data may be fine, but in the end it's necessary to consider other VIM types as well.
08:33:30 <ueha> Yes.. I think we should know how use this DB and to think commonization for other vims. It is difficult..
08:35:46 <takahashi-tsc> OK, I write your comment on etherpad... I'll discuss it.
08:37:49 <ueha> OK. thanks. I'll check patch for knowing details of DB refactoring!
08:42:42 <yoshito-ito> Sorry, I'm late. I've checked the log.
08:45:36 <yasufum> sorry for leaving for disconnection
08:45:36 <yoshito-ito> For DB refactoring, I'm concerning that we cannot follow what attributes are stored in DB in the existing implementation.
08:46:48 <yoshito-ito> Especially for VNFAttribute table, I believe no one can understand what is stored in there. That's why it's also difficult to review the patch.
08:51:35 <takahashi-tsc> Do you mean... e.g.  we need information about whole data structure in Tacker. and its before & after?
08:55:00 <yoshito-ito> I mean reviewers need to understand the mapping between the existing implementation and the refactor patch, but it's difficult for us to understand the existing implementaion because they has a big dict variable. It takes long time to review the patch.
08:56:24 <yoshito-ito> And as you mentioned, the data structure help us to understand what this patch tries to refactor.
08:57:47 <yoshito-ito> We are running out the time today, so I'll try to put my concern on the etherpad.
08:58:08 <takahashi-tsc> I see... at least we need mapping between before and after. And data structure seems needed too.
08:58:09 <takahashi-tsc> Thanks!
09:02:25 <yasufum> takahashi-tsc: do we need to have more discussion in the next meeting?
09:03:55 <takahashi-tsc> Seems needed... but is it 3 weeks later?
09:06:53 <yasufum> Or we can have a meeting anytime on our channel
09:08:00 <takahashi-tsc> OK... anyway, we'll update etherpad or the patch if necessary. If you write comments on etherpad or tacker channel, I'll reply.
09:09:10 <yasufum> OK, please join the discussion who are interested
09:09:33 <yasufum> I would like to close this meeting if no more comments
09:11:02 <yasufum> OK, thanks.
09:11:17 <takahashi-tsc> Thanks, bye
09:11:23 <yasufum> The next meeting is at 12 Jan, 2020.
09:11:32 <yasufum> bye
09:11:44 <yasufum> #endmeeting